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I Don't disagree with any of this. And I'm not trying to infer anything about Riley.Here is the problem with message boards. A poster can post something that is in no way meant to be derogatory or inflammatory, but someone takes it that way and runs with it and calls it whatever and then lines are drawn.
The other thing that happens is that people will copy a portion of what you typed and argue small portions of a very large discussion. You are then forced to spend time discussing a point that in no way reflects your true opinion nor the whole story of what you wrote originally, but by then it is too late. The thread is off the tracks and again the battle lines are drawn.
I would venture to say that most people on here want what is good for Nebraska football. We all just have different ideas on how to accomplish that goal. The problem is that none of us are the person that gets to fix it. So we get on here and vent.
As I have said before, I wasn't really a fan of the Riley hire, but I wanted Pelini out so, like Kaz said yesterday, some of us are getting what we deserved. I was the biggest bitcher and moaner of the Pelini era but I decided with the Riley hire that I was going to support who we have in place because I really have no control of the deal. It also gave me an opportunity to look at other schemes and learn. So because I decided to support the Riley hire, I was labeled a "Riley Lover" and have found myself defending things that I may or may not believe or support because the alternative was bitching full time again. I guess that makes me a hypocrite. I will survive.
What I did come to learn or realize is that there are many ways to skin a cat and the coach is the reason we will be successful at Nebraska, not the schemes they choose to run.
XTC reference. Love it.
I know the coaching search isn't up to fans, but what do you all think of Dan Mullen. He used to be Urban's O-Coordinator and has done a decent job at Mississippi State. A few years ago, I wanted him to be Penn State's coach among others. He's a Pennsylvania Guy, which I love and felt was important because they are more likely to understand the state and fan base. With that being said, getting a home state isn't always possible or the best available candidate at the time isn't always from your state.
nah, he is 5-9 in his last 14 SEC games.
Riley is 10-4 in his last 14 B1G games.
Mullen is playing second fiddle in his own state. He's done an amazing job all things considered, like location and the conference he plays in. He's solid.
You hate winnners? Got it. I assume you're also not impressed with the '72 dolphins? I agree they were overrated.Hope he never gets an offer... So tired of the SF remarks
But with your tradition, history of success, fan support, and facilities it would be easier for him than at Mississippi State. Historically you are one of the BIG's top programs, while Mississippi State is not one of the SEC's top programs.
I think Frost is a great coach, but just to play devil's advocate UCF is his first head coaching job and they aren't in the SEC.
Mullen owes Dak Prescott for his career. Without him, he's been very mediocre.
If you have determined that your current coach isn't going to succeed (admittedly highly subjective) then your next hire - regardless of who it is - has a better chance of succeeding than the coach you currently have in place. There are no sure hires. Each hire is done with the best of intentions, but the fear that the next guy might not succeed shouldn't cause you to keep a coach that isn't going to succeed.
The rub here is how certain can one be that our current coach isn't eventually going to succeed. Some are willing to use current trajectory to extrapolate and others want another year or 2 in order to have more certainty.
Part of any head coaching hire at a traditional football school with a passionate fan base should involve the question of - if we struggle in year 3 will this coach still have the support of the fan base.
Yea, well, that's like your opinion man....and another thing, let me tell u something pandejo
It’s pendejo, pendejo
It’s pendejo, pendejo
Memphis put up 70 points tonight. Frost made Memphis look like a high school team. Frost is legit.[/QUOTE
Yea but did Frost run the ball? Smh
Yes he did....for over 300 yards.
You should probably ask that same question of those that take issue with folks being skeptical of Riley. I don't think anyone hates Riley. How could anyone be a 'hater' of Mike Riley? He's the most affable guy a person could come across. But I can see why people would be skeptical of his coaching.
Anyway, we'll find out a lot about his future in the next few weeks. I, for one, am hopeful he can continue the momentum.
What momentum? He did what was expected, beat the 2 worse teams in the Bi10. He needs to beat NW or MN to show there are 3 worse teams in the B10, after that I have no idea where another win is.
It might not be explicitly stated, but it is implied and there are grumblings from certain posters anytime an alumni is under consideration.I haven't seen one post saying this. I see LOTS that say there is not enough evidence (yet) to say that Frost is the most qualified candidate out there.
That's exactly where the support for Frost is coming from. It is very unlikely that we're going to get a head coach with a better resume than Scott Frost. There may be guys with similar resumes we could get, but Frost makes a lot more sense than those guys. Intangibles are important and Scott Frost has won everywhere he's been. He's an intelligent young coach who's had success turning a team around. Frost is more likely to be interested in the job. It's his alma mater after all, and it's just a bonus that he played here, not the main reason most people want him.The simple fact of the matter in this day and age of college football, going to an LSU or Texas or Nebraska from another mid to top P5 school doesn't happen. There have probably a handful of coaches that left a top 30 P5 job and went directly to another P5 job in the last 15 years.
I can only think of a few that left a P5 job at all for another P5 job on their own.
Riley to Nebraska from Oregon St
Franklin to Penn St from Vandy
Les Miles to LSU from Ok St
Paul Chryst to Wisconsin from Pitt- Alum
Rich Rodriguez from West Virg to Michigan
Bielema from Wisconsin to Arkansas
Andersen from Wisconsin to Oregon St
All but Andersen was a step up in prestige from "lower funded or supported" P5 programs.
There's plenty of Mullen threads, so it's obvious some fans want him. Aside from that, Mullen's coaching record isn't all that impressive. It's just fine for Miss St. but I think Frost would have more success here.Mullen has no Nebraska ties so fans won't want him. Rather have any high school coach who has a cousin that attended Nebraska.
I agree Scott Frost would get the most support from the fan base, but I don't think it's particularly important for the fan base to be united. There's always going to be fans upset over something. If we win, the fan base will be united and take care of itself.SF is the only coach that could unite the fanbase, unite the alums, unite the administration, unite the team, etc.
That is "back to the 90's" that people talk about.
The only way the Frost talk ends is by hiring Frost. Until Frost is hired, the chatter will be strong. Nebraska would be making a huge mistake by not bringing Frost home.
Huh? He was a great college quarterback and in discussion for the heisman.In college Dak was good, not great. So far anyway, he's been a much better pro QB and I think people have a little revisionist memory when they think about himin college. Been badass as a pro so far. No way Cowboys could have known how that would work out.