Your numbers are profoundly wrong on hospital survival. Of people admitted to intensive care units in the US, 8-19% die. Non selective hospital admissions result in about 2.4% dying.
https://healthpolicy.ucsf.edu/icu-outcomes
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Your numbers are profoundly wrong on hospital survival. Of people admitted to intensive care units in the US, 8-19% die. Non selective hospital admissions result in about 2.4% dying.
https://healthpolicy.ucsf.edu/icu-outcomes
Profoundly?
"Overall, mortality rates in patients admitted to adult ICUs average 10% to 29%". So the average is from 1 in 10 to roughly 1 in 3. What I stated was not "profoundly" wrong.
https://www.sccm.org/Communications/Critical-Care-Statistics
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Did you significant other cheat on you with a Chiropractor?
You said 1 in 3 who go to the hospital die, 2.4% of patients who go to a hospital die. That’s 1 in 42ish.
That should cut down on the deaths and fear porn.
When covid patients go to the hospital, they don't treat shit. Their hands are tied.
She might want to join...
Oh yeah she was fired. Wonder why?
Oh yeah she was fired. Wonder why?
That was given to her by a neighbor who thought she was a rabid bulldog. Turns out he was wrong, she is a rabid bulldyke.
Wow! Patton Oswalt is looking rough lately.
I suggest you take your sorry rear end to the boarder and start vaccinations on all the illegals coming over here bring it with them…
I'm not sure where you're getting that. Yes the Delta variant causes a higher viral load than the original predominant strain but unvaccinated people on average have a 1000X higher viral load when COVID breaks through according to multiple university sources I found by doing a simple Google search.
Better yet maybe we can get all states to send their National Guard troops to the border to stop the criminal entry in to this country. In addition there are multiple reports of huge numbers of suspected terrorists being detained down there. A recently retired high ranking CIA officer confirmed that. Since we only catch 1/10th of the illegal entries one can only imagine how many folks with bad intent we've let in.
The U.S. still had 873 deaths from COVID yesterday according to Worldometer. Nebraska had 17. Unvaccinated people are still dying from COVID. Vaccinated people? Not so much. The average life expectancy not changing due to COVID should prove to you that COVID Is killing an equal number of people above and below that number. It doesn't mean anything other than that.
The death loss numbers are really disappointing to me. I really thought we would be done with this damned thing by now. States where the ICE and U.S. Military have dumped planeloads of illegal entrants are getting clobbered right now.
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These people that defend Biden and Harris over this boarder are blind and uninformed and are only thinking of poor little children being dropped off to be rescued…
Well wake people it’s worse then that..
The majority of entrants are young males. If you love what the drug cartels are doing in Mexico, wait a few months and it will be coming to a neighborhood near you. We're already seeing full blown drug gang wars in our inner cities between black and Hispanic gangs. Just wait until the Taliban ramps up Heroin production as they openly said they are going to do. Most of that gets in to the U.S. across our southern border.
Yeah where are the “I didn’t vote for Trump because of COVID crowd?” Biden is dumping unvaxed illegal immigrants into my state and not even telling us. Biden is a disgrace.
You'd have a point if people lived to be 150 years old.
The vast majority, over 95%, of (reported) covid deaths consists of older people (over 50, but closer to 60+).
i think you got that from university of colorado website and you mixed info. Delta positives are much higher viral load than the non mutated covid positives. ("Individuals infected with Delta also had viral loads up to 1,260 times higher than those in people infected with the original strain") .NPR shows that vaxed and unvaxed have a similar viral load. "The findings reveal that vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals exhibit similar viral loads following delta infection and that vaccine breakthrough cases have the potential to transmit infection to others."
simple google search "doctor"
4 things he'll never get.
1) C1984 was engineered to be low mortality (within the parameters of a typical flu season). DAVOS/CCP doesn't want to kill everyone, that would deprive them of a world of slaves. That's their utopia.
2) co-morbidity is a thing
3) herd immunity is the only way to deal with pandemics (see 1968-1957-1918), even ones created in a biowarfare lab. Just another reminder that playing God never goes well.
4) whatever numbers are coming from the gov't are suspect because we've politicized science (and especially medicine). And did I mention the same gov't that is encouraging corona fear porn helped create this virus? Harvey Weinstein labeled himself a feminist, the playbook of evil hasn't changed since it was created.
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Since this virus is going to be with humanity from now on. I think it’s safe to say everyone will eventually get it. The vaccines prevent death especially in those at risk, however there is some science that now says the vaccines provide less protection against variants than the anti bodies of those infected naturally.
while there is no good answer I do think if you do not have health issues it’s better for everyone to just get it. In fact since you mentioned worldometer review their charts on Florida. Cases are high but deaths have dropped off a cliff no other state has shown this maybe they have done it correctly
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This is poorly thought out.
In like Jan or Feb roughly 10% of the US population had tested positive, with the vast majority surviving.
This undoubtedly included a very high amount of false positives due to how tests are conducted.
It's estimated 50-70% of the population has been infected. The vast majority with minor issues, many who didn't even know and allowed them to build bodily defenses. Antibodies, t-cells, etc.
A significant portion of the population are at effectively zero risk from the virus.
But it has been shown that there is some risk from the vaccine.
We don't have any long term data to support the safety of the vaccine and efficacy seems to be questionable and limited. It's still EUA. A few weeks ago the govt said you wouldn't need booster shots, now everyone will need booster shots.
But you think it's a good idea to force that risk on everyone. That is nonsensical.
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Sorry I worded that poorly I think it best if you are not risk, to just get the virus naturally and forgo the vaccine
The statement that "they sold you that the vaccine was 100% effective is a blatant lie". I did not see a single person in the media or government agencies say that the vaccine was 100% effective. The other blatant lie was the Dr. who says he had somebody end up in the hospital who said he had "20 vaccinations". I just got my booster shot this morning. It took me 2 hours, my vaccination card, my insurance card and an hour wait before they would give me my 3rd shot. I had to sign an affidavit stating that I was immunocompromised and the reason why. Nobody has gotten 20 shots.
The vaccines are not a shield, but an umbrella in a monsoon rainstorm. Sure, you will get a little wet here and there, but you won't get soaked. As someone who had a breakthrough Delta infection, I can assure you that the vaccine protection kept my infection from getting far worse than it could've gotten. Also, since I was vaccinated, despite being contagious, only one other family member, our son got sick (he wasn't able to be vaccinated based on age). My wife and her sister who lives with us were both vaccinated and they've tested negative multiple times now and presented no symptoms like I had. So the vaccines do help you reduce the amount of virus you shed.
The problem with "herd" immunity is that this virus is changing so fast that we'll likely never reach it now. The new South African variant isn't affected by the new antibody treatments and even previous infection with an earlier strain of COVID doesn't seem protective. China built an amazing weapon.4 things he'll never get.
1) C1984 was engineered to be low mortality (within the parameters of a typical flu season). DAVOS/CCP doesn't want to kill everyone, that would deprive them of a world of slaves. That's their utopia.
2) co-morbidity is a thing
3) herd immunity is the only way to deal with pandemics (see 1968-1957-1918), even ones created in a biowarfare lab. Just another reminder that playing God never goes well.
4) whatever numbers are coming from the gov't are suspect because we've politicized science (and especially medicine). And did I mention the same gov't that is encouraging corona fear porn helped create this virus? Harvey Weinstein labeled himself a feminist, the playbook of evil hasn't changed since it was created.
I don't disagree that states like Florida and South Dakota did it the right way. That said, tens of thousands of deaths likely could have been avoided had people gotten vaccinated earlier. As it is I would wager that the vaccine has save in excess of 100,000 lives in this country. The vaccine is NOT the cause of the variants or their spread and deaths from the variants would be MUCH higher without the number of vaccinations that have taken place. The variants have all originated from countries without high vaccination numbers. For instance natural infection doesn't "appear" to offer much if any protection against the new South African variant. Some protection though however small is likely enough to keep you from dying for it.
The vaccination industry is another casualty of this global power-grab 
I've gotten plenty of vaccinations. Never had a problem with them.
"But you're an anti-vaxxer"
Nah, I just choose to get vaccinations that have followed the protocols put into place after the Thalidomide fiasco.
en.wikipedia.org
www.forbes.com
I find it interesting that none of the fear-merchants have ever asked themself how they came up with the "cure" so quickly? Actual science requires skepticism.
I've gotten plenty of vaccinations. Never had a problem with them.
"But you're an anti-vaxxer"
Nah, I just choose to get vaccinations that have followed the protocols put into place after the Thalidomide fiasco.
Thalidomide scandal - Wikipedia
Why Hasn’t The FDA Fully Approved Any Covid-19 Vaccines Yet?
It’s a long and arduous process that requires tons of data. Plus, the agency wants to rebuild trust after coming under attack during the Trump Administration.
www.forbes.com
I find it interesting that none of the fear-merchants have ever asked themself how they came up with the "cure" so quickly? Actual science requires skepticism.
We are losing sight of this again. This is full on a ****in Chinese weapon, but they are never going to be held accountable. I'll never eat Chinese food agaiN!
