Boilers open up a 3 point favorite

[BoilerN]

IF the money is the same, I would stay at Purdue but then I don't have the ego of a D-1 college head coach so who knows. I'm old and have dozens of years of experience and for me work stress from other people who held power over me was the worst. Thankfully that ended 30 years ago. From everything I've heard Florida boosters are some of the worst right up their with Texas.

Only 4 SEC coaches are making more than Jeff Brohm in 2018. Just throwing that out there.

 

[soylentgreen66]

Every one of the B1G teams we play would beat Troy (Illinois debatable).

Rutgers would like a word.

 

[DaddyBoi]

There are two posters here that have an extreme hatred for anything with the word Hawk in it and SOHusker is one of them. It’s to be expected and I’m ok with it. As with most fan bases, the majority of fans are ones you can have a conversation with.

As to where the conversation went after my post, I’m sorry Boiler but Purdue probably won’t be anywhere near Nebraska in 2020. Brohm will more than likely leave by then but Frost isn’t going anywhere.

I appreciate having you here, @SOHusker is being really cringe with the blind hatred.

Everyone here is a person, our identity doesnt have to be tied to our football team.

 

[steventrelain]

Given how this wretched season has started, this game is absolutely pivotal.
It all depends on what is going on in that locker room. While I love coach Frost and I am one million percent certain he will eventually turn us around, nevertheless, he may never have faced as a coach a situation where he is losing the team. Even if he is a great coach (and I think he is), he may not have faced this particular challenge before. You could hear the exasperation in his voice during his presser and he clearly expressed his belief that for some of these players, effort is lacking.

Personally, I have a bad feeling about our next game and about the rest of this season. I think many of the upperclassman aren’t willing to give the effort required. Most know they aren’t going pro. And most now know that this season isn’t going to be anything special after all. So they will just mail it in from here on out.

I hope I am wrong. Obviously. But I think the time has come to really start building for next year.

At this level of competition players rarely mail it in. Coaches have options sitting on the bench so any player not making the effort won't last long on the field.

 

[DaddyBoi]

Purdue also isn't the same program or athletic department it was two years ago. Purdue has some of the nicest facilities in the big ten, has invested over 100 million in the last two years, is paying Jeff Brohm good money, is planning more investments this next off-season, and about to announce a project to their stadium that will be worth at least 100 mil I'd say, the original was 150 mil. They are scaling it back to build it sooner. Plus Brohm currently has the #24 recruiting class with more 4 star guys potentially coming.
In order for Louisville to hire him this next off-season, they would have to pay petrino 12 mil to go away, then likely pay Brohm a 4.5-5 mil salary along with that same money in his assistant coach pool. That's assuming Purdue wouldn't match what they offered to keep him, which I think Purdue would match.
All that goes with a university remodel to the tune of approximately 2.2 billion I believe. This has all started in the last 2ish years. So not the same. Oh, and the Purdue fans are coming. Takes a bit to recover from not having a football program for four years.

As for Louisville, their athletic department is a mess. Why would anyone want to be a part of it? They just lost? a huge done in papa John and they don't get big ten money. Plus their path to the playoff is much more difficult. They get Clemson in their division. Purdue has beatable teams.

Are you forgetting that the Big 10 has Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Mich St and Wisconsin?

Brohm is gone, dude. You talk like UCF fans before Frost left. “He really loves it here, he has everything he needs.” Yeah, so will Notre Dame and USC.

 

[BoilerN]

Are you forgetting that the Big 10 has Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Mich St and Wisconsin?

Brohm is gone, dude. You talk like UCF fans before Frost left. “He really loves it here, he has everything he needs.” Yeah, so will Notre Dame and USC.

Notre Dame actually scares me if they ever need a new coach. USC doesn't because Brohm wouldn't go that far. Wants to stay close to Louisville. He once turned down an OC job at bama to stay in Louisville as QB coach. Purdue almost beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin last year with a team that had won 9 games in the four previous years. The way Brohm is showing he can recruit at Purdue, there is no reason to think he can't build a team at Purdue to be competitive with all the teams you listed. Am I wrong? So basically, he builds a team and if he can beat Wisconsin, he's in the big ten championship. So answer this question for me. How is Purdue a bad job? A job that no one will want to stay at?

 

[SWIowahawks]

Notre Dame actually scares me if they ever need a new coach. USC doesn't because Brohm wouldn't go that far. Wants to stay close to Louisville. He once turned down an OC job at bama to stay in Louisville as QB coach. Purdue almost beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin last year with a team that had won 9 games in the four previous years. The way Brohm is showing he can recruit at Purdue, there is no reason to think he can't build a team at Purdue to be competitive with all the teams you listed. Am I wrong? So basically, he builds a team and if he can beat Wisconsin, he's in the big ten championship. So answer this question for me. How is Purdue a bad job? A job that no one will want to stay at?

Please please please beat Wisconsin.

 

[scarletred]

Please please please beat Wisconsin.

We need to concentrate and beat Purdue first and foremost...

 

[BoilerN]

We need to concentrate and beat Purdue first and foremost...

Na. Focus on Wisconsin! That way our offense (mainly Rondale Moore) can keeping running circles around teams and our defense can continue to improve and grow! Haha good luck to you guys this weekend.

 

[DaddyBoi]

Notre Dame actually scares me if they ever need a new coach. USC doesn't because Brohm wouldn't go that far. Wants to stay close to Louisville. He once turned down an OC job at bama to stay in Louisville as QB coach. Purdue almost beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin last year with a team that had won 9 games in the four previous years. The way Brohm is showing he can recruit at Purdue, there is no reason to think he can't build a team at Purdue to be competitive with all the teams you listed. Am I wrong? So basically, he builds a team and if he can beat Wisconsin, he's in the big ten championship. So answer this question for me. How is Purdue a bad job? A job that no one will want to stay at?

That was a 12 win, 6th ranked Louisville team he decided to stay at, compared to an Alabama with a losing record. My guess is coaching his little brother and it being his birthplace and Alma mater had a factor in him staying as well.

Purdue isn’t a terrible job, but you can’t ignore money.

as of 2017:

FOOTBALL REVENUE

1. Michigan $97,149,706
2. Ohio State $86,668,248
3. Penn State $75,527,152
4. Wisconsin $71,220,684
5. Michigan State $69,579,206
6. Nebraska $65,741,822
7. Iowa $52,498,092
8. Minnesota $49,188,752
9. Northwestern $36,212,907*
10. Indiana $35,520,657
11. Illinois $32,910,979
12. Maryland $30,071,434
13. Rutgers $28,657,722
14. Purdue $18,747,410

FOOTBALL EXPENSES

1. Ohio State $37,479,825
2. Michigan $36,597,583
3. Penn State $35,647,905
4. Michigan State $36,896,168
5. Iowa $31,137,043
6. Wisconsin $30,731,315
7. Nebraska $28,223,705
8. Minnesota $27,656,340
9. Rutgers $25,174,838
10. Northwestern $24,629,741*
11. Indiana $24,430,110
12. Maryland $20,779,161
13. Illinois $18,432,831
14. Purdue $16,951,809

So say he wins a B1G Championship, and Nick Saban retires. What happens when Alabama opens the checkbook for a yearly salary that is half of Purdue’s total revenue? There gets to be a point where you just can’t really compete with the blue bloods, and it’s a sad reality.

 

[Raynman92]

That was a 12 win, 6th ranked Louisville team he decided to stay at, compared to an Alabama with a losing record. My guess is coaching his little brother and it being his birthplace and Alma mater had a factor in him staying as well.

Purdue isn’t a terrible job, but you can’t ignore money.

as of 2017:

FOOTBALL REVENUE

1. Michigan $97,149,706
2. Ohio State $86,668,248
3. Penn State $75,527,152
4. Wisconsin $71,220,684
5. Michigan State $69,579,206
6. Nebraska $65,741,822
7. Iowa $52,498,092
8. Minnesota $49,188,752
9. Northwestern $36,212,907*
10. Indiana $35,520,657
11. Illinois $32,910,979
12. Maryland $30,071,434
13. Rutgers $28,657,722
14. Purdue $18,747,410

FOOTBALL EXPENSES

1. Ohio State $37,479,825
2. Michigan $36,597,583
3. Penn State $35,647,905
4. Michigan State $36,896,168
5. Iowa $31,137,043
6. Wisconsin $30,731,315
7. Nebraska $28,223,705
8. Minnesota $27,656,340
9. Rutgers $25,174,838
10. Northwestern $24,629,741*
11. Indiana $24,430,110
12. Maryland $20,779,161
13. Illinois $18,432,831
14. Purdue $16,951,809

So say he wins a B1G Championship, and Nick Saban retires. What happens when Alabama opens the checkbook for a yearly salary that is half of Purdue’s total revenue? There gets to be a point where you just can’t really compete with the blue bloods, and it’s a sad reality.

I would assume those revenue numbers are pre 2017 (pre Bobinski / pre Brohm), not including 2017. Although I understand your point of the big programs have significantly more financial resources to fund salaries, there’s no way those numbers reflect Purdue’s revenue since Brohm came. Huge jumps were made last year. To one of the other posters point, the entire culture surrounding Purdue administration as it relates to football and athletics in general has changed very dramatically in the past two years. Not just incredible facilities upgrades but a significant aggressive cultural and even branding mindset. For die hard Purdue fans it’s an exciting time to see the “All In” mentality from your Board of Trustees, President, and AD. Goes a long way to help fight to keep a guy like Brohm. It’s also already paying huge dividends in recruiting next years class and beyond. FWIW

 

[BoilerN]

That was a 12 win, 6th ranked Louisville team he decided to stay at, compared to an Alabama with a losing record. My guess is coaching his little brother and it being his birthplace and Alma mater had a factor in him staying as well.

Purdue isn’t a terrible job, but you can’t ignore money.

as of 2017:

FOOTBALL REVENUE

1. Michigan $97,149,706
2. Ohio State $86,668,248
3. Penn State $75,527,152
4. Wisconsin $71,220,684
5. Michigan State $69,579,206
6. Nebraska $65,741,822
7. Iowa $52,498,092
8. Minnesota $49,188,752
9. Northwestern $36,212,907*
10. Indiana $35,520,657
11. Illinois $32,910,979
12. Maryland $30,071,434
13. Rutgers $28,657,722
14. Purdue $18,747,410

FOOTBALL EXPENSES

1. Ohio State $37,479,825
2. Michigan $36,597,583
3. Penn State $35,647,905
4. Michigan State $36,896,168
5. Iowa $31,137,043
6. Wisconsin $30,731,315
7. Nebraska $28,223,705
8. Minnesota $27,656,340
9. Rutgers $25,174,838
10. Northwestern $24,629,741*
11. Indiana $24,430,110
12. Maryland $20,779,161
13. Illinois $18,432,831
14. Purdue $16,951,809

So say he wins a B1G Championship, and Nick Saban retires. What happens when Alabama opens the checkbook for a yearly salary that is half of Purdue’s total revenue? There gets to be a point where you just can’t really compete with the blue bloods, and it’s a sad reality.

I don't disagree, but then you have to ask yourself, is Jeff Brohm worth 8 million. Another thing to remember is, Purdue is making more than that number. They get 50mil from the big ten every year. So it's not like 16 mil is all they have to run the program with.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

I don't disagree, but then you have to ask yourself, is Jeff Brohm worth 8 million. Another thing to remember is, Purdue is making more than that number. They get 50mil from the big ten every year. So it's not like 16 mil is all they have to run the program with.

Coaching so is stupid this day and age. At some point it will probably level off, but the contract that Jimbo got is just ridiculous, and Brohm is a better coach imo. it never ceases to amaze me what some of these schools will do.

 

[dinglefritz]

Coaching so is stupid this day and age. At some point it will probably level off, but the contract that Jimbo got is just ridiculous, and Brohm is a better coach imo. it never ceases to amaze me what some of these schools will do.

Boosters and ADs are like a mid teens handicap golfer. They keep buying different clubs thinking they can buy a game......

 

[scarletred]

Boosters and ADs are like a mid teens handicap golfer. They keep buying different clubs thinking they can buy a game......

Newer technology in clubs diffently help out..
Just saying.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

Boosters and ADs are like a mid teens handicap golfer. They keep buying different clubs thinking they can buy a game......

Great analogy.

 

[dinglefritz]

Newer technology in clubs diffently help out..
Just saying.

I had a pro one time on a tee box take one of my Scheel's special on sale irons (30+ years ago) and hit the damned thing the exact same distance with the exact same flight as his custom club. He just turned to me and said, "it isn't the clubs."

 

[barney44]

I had a pro one time on a tee box take one of my Scheel's special on sale irons (30+ years ago) and hit the damned thing the exact same distance with the exact same flight as his custom club. He just turned to me and said, "it isn't the clubs."

That is why they say “it’s the wizard, not the wand”..