What? You don't think Frost has ambition for his career? Wow.
UCF making a push to keep Frost away from P5 schools
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You know very well what I was referring to. Or... maybe you don't. You guys are a... special... bunch.
I'm referring to your post that suggested if he stays at UCF then he has no ambition but if he leaves, then he's clearly ambitious. Such a joke.
You are the one who came on to another team's board and started the insult parade.
You also seem to have a really exaggerated sense of the importance of UCF. Of course an ambitious coach would want to leave there.
Now go ask your mom for cookies
You do realize that MAC team has been better than UCF the last ten years and over that time has beaten some pretty good programs.
Listen guys, I get it. You lived through the highest echelons of success back in the 90s and a lot of you are yearning to get that feeling and sense of accomplishment back to Lincoln, Nebraska. I totally understand and I have no reason to want to prevent that from happening. I wish your school and football program much future success.
Here's the problem. Your program (and fans) are resting on the laurels of that past success as a determinant for why Nebraska is such a powerhouse today. The thing is... it's not a powerhouse. You're something like 3-17 in your last 20 games against Top 25 teams. You've beaten like 2 teams with a winning record in the last few years. You haven't won a championship of any sort in ages. What has Nebraska accomplished of significance in this millennium?
Yet according to your fans, you're light years better than those mid-level P5 programs. Well, the reality is that Nebraska is bordering on being a mid-level P5 program. You're not a national championship threat. Heck, you're not even a conference championship threat.
Yes, I get it. Nebraska accomplished more in a three-year period in the 90s than UCF has as a program. And? One program is trending upwards and has been for over a decade. The other has been trending downward.
If you had the option of a rising boat or a sinking boat, which would you choose?
Here's the problem. Your program (and fans) are resting on the laurels of that past success as a determinant for why Nebraska is such a powerhouse today. The thing is... it's not a powerhouse. You're something like 3-17 in your last 20 games against Top 25 teams. You've beaten like 2 teams with a winning record in the last few years. You haven't won a championship of any sort in ages. What has Nebraska accomplished of significance in this millennium?
Yet according to your fans, you're light years better than those mid-level P5 programs. Well, the reality is that Nebraska is bordering on being a mid-level P5 program. You're not a national championship threat. Heck, you're not even a conference championship threat.
Yes, I get it. Nebraska accomplished more in a three-year period in the 90s than UCF has as a program. And? One program is trending upwards and has been for over a decade. The other has been trending downward.
If you had the option of a rising boat or a sinking boat, which would you choose?
They actually have not, further proving your knowledge of college football outside of Nebraska. They've had exactly one great season (2012) in which they went to the Orange Bowl and got humiliated by Florida State. They have beaten no one of note.
During that same span, UCF has had four 10+ win seasons including bowl wins over Georgia and No. 5 Baylor. They won 3 conference championships to UCF's 4.
NO you missed the point, what he is saying very clearly is that the most ambitious coaches want the highest challenge which is coaching at a blue blood program and playing the best schools out there, rather than being comfortable at a school and just winning some ball games. The challenge of getting to the top and staying on top is what drives these coaches and most know that there are just a few programs out there to do that at.
I get that sentiment. I'd argue that trying to win a national championship at UCF is an even bigger challenge and he seems ambitious enough to want to take that on.
You are about to have your first winning season in three years. We have won 9+ games eight of the past nine years, against real competition. It sounds like our sinking ship is still light years ahead of your "trending upwards" program. Not to mention all the other advantages. That might be why our class is full of four star recruits and yours is full of two star recruits.
But you might be right, it might be better to play AAC teams in a half full HS stadium.
And you're about to have a losing season. It's all cyclical. But speaking of trends...
lol. Again with the stars. UCF's Adrian Killins, a 3-star out of Daytona Beach, FL, is faster than any current member of the Nebraska roster.
Now, if you get any 4- and 5-star prospects from Florida, I'd be impressed.
By your speed theory, the Oakland Raiders should have half a dozen more Super Bowls.
Is he planning on trying out for the 2020 Olympics or something?
Oh only 4-stars from Florida count, I see. Too bad the ones from California and Nevada don't count. But we still have one this year in Bookie and had one last year in Guy Thomas.
trailer trash wrong again Last 10 years, 2008-2017:
Win-Loss record
NIU 87-41
UCF 70-51
10+ win seasons
NIU 5
UCF 3 (not 4 like you claim)
Bowl games
NIU 8 (+1 TBD)
UCF 6 (+1 TBD)
Losing seasons
NIU 2
UCF 4
Wow everything out of this guys mouth is wrong. He should probably take his jean shorts and go home.
Last 10 years, 2008-2017:
Win-Loss record
NIU 87-41
UCF 70-51
10+ win seasons
NIU 5
UCF 3
Bowl games
NIU 8 (+1 TBD)
UCF 6 (+1 TBD)
Losing seasons
NIU 2
UCF 4
My football knowledge is fine, I have forgotten more football than you know so don't go there but since you did here are the numbers, just so you know with your limited math knowledge 96 wins is greater than 84 and NIU just two years prior to 2006 beat #21 Alabama, and have beaten other power five programs during this time. Also they did not go winless in any of these seasons.
Since 2006 Northern Illinois is 96-57
Since 2006 UCF is 84-63
NIU has five 11+ win seasons and I would argue although they lost to FSU, FSU is a better program than Baylor.
Well as long as it is just a four team playoff, I don't see a non power five team making the playoffs, those teams resumes just don't stack up even if they are undefeated.
Would love to hear those "pretty good programs" , the likes of Minnesota, Purdue and Northwestern?
More like would you rather save a sinking ship full of gold or choose a rising boat full of dog feces. Easy choice IMO. I don’t understand why UCF fans are so up in arms. We haven’t even tried to go after your coach yet.
So you have timed all of Nebraska's players in the forty and Darius Hayward Bay is the best wr to ever play in the NFL because he was really fast.
2004 they beat Alabama, Have you ever heard of them?Would love to hear those "pretty good programs" , the likes of Minnesota, Purdue and Northwestern?
I would choose the one that has the facilities, history, fan support, and tradition that could easily spring back to life with the right hire. I understand it...you've never had a very successful football program. Being 4-0 or 5-0 is very nice, but you're not beating any Alabamas, Florida States, USCs, or Clemsons. You're beating also ran programs. You can't even fill your stadium.
You've got a good thing going, but you'll never be able to keep a good coach more than a few years at most. You had better get used to the idea of losing coaches, because your program will continually be where coaches go to cut their teeth.
We'll try to let you know when we take your coach.
The same year you lost to Northern Illinois by 3 touchdowns?2003 and only 3 years after UCF did
From the looks of it UCF had to get out of the MAC after the 2004 season since they could not compete after going 0-8 in conference play, so I guess there are some pretty good football playing schools in the MAC. Good thing you guys joined that powerhouse Conference USA since the MAC was clearly bringing you guys down.2003 and only 3 years after UCF did
Wow, you sure are a funny little man. You certainly get upset when somebody calls you on your BS. It's cool and all that you like to make up crap, because hey, it's the internet. But, nobody that isn't completely stupid or blind believes anything you say.
I get it, you lined up thinking Riley was the savior and you look like a fool. So, deflect by saying crap about TO or try to link anybody that disagrees with you to the last coach. It really, really hurts you that your guy sucked way more than the last coach, doesn't it. Because you sure as hell can't hide your frustration. But, adding BS artist to fool doesn't help your image any. And let's be honest, that's obviously real important to you because you fly off into a rage whenever you are called out.
It might take him a while to respond - he’s busy listening to Canadian ragweed and monitoring the hashtags on Dave Rimingtons twitter feed.
Somebody please tell tony dungy that frost hasn't done enough to prove he's a head coach candidate and the only reason Nebraska wants him is because they are hicks and he played here...please get him the memo.
Yes, NIU.
Last 10 years, 2008-2017:
Win-Loss record
NIU 87-41
UCF 70-51
10+ win seasons
NIU 5
UCF 3 (not 4 like you claim)
Bowl games
NIU 8 (+1 TBD)
UCF 6 (+1 TBD)
Losing seasons
NIU 2
UCF 4
Not only that, but the ironic part of your response up above is this gem earlier ITT...
Someone didn't look something up. Or, he can't count.
Yes, a FCS program is better than Nebraska.
You go from not being able to add, to not being able to total up numbers to proving what I stated earlier ITT - IQ lower than the average temperature in Antarctica.
Congrats, but the goal posts aren't moving.
Yes, NIU.
Last 10 years, 2008-2017:
Win-Loss record
NIU 87-41
UCF 70-51
10+ win seasons
NIU 5
UCF 3 (not 4 like you claim)
Bowl games
NIU 8 (+1 TBD)
UCF 6 (+1 TBD)
Losing seasons
NIU 2
UCF 4
Not only that, but the ironic part of your response up above is this gem earlier ITT...
Going from 05-15 with this awesome metric you probably think Virginia Tech is a better program than Florida, Georgia, Texas, Clemson, Auburn and your beloved Cornhuskers (actually this might be debatable)
NIU has been more consistent than UCF sure, and that reflects in their record. UCF has had much higher highs and much lower lows. The best win for NIU in the past 10 years was over #19 Kent State. UCF has beaten the #12, #8, and #6 team in the country in that time frame. NIU finished ranked once at #22. UCF finished #20 in 2010 and #10 in 2013. 2013 they had 1 loss by 3 points to the #4 team in the country. Both teams made one BCS bowl game. UCF won their game and NIU got blown out. Again nothing against NIU. They have had a fine program and they are consistently good, but never great. They are one of the better G5 programs along with UCF.
Funny that NIUs win loss is brought up. If win-loss record was all that mattered Nebraska wouldn't be pining for their 5th coach in 15 years. I'd have to believe Nebraska has one of the best winning percentages over that time frame.
Who knows...he might. I do know he smoked the Michigan D last year for an 80+ yard TD...and he was pulling away from the defenders the entire way.
And Scott Frost only had to make a 45 minute drive from campus to visit him and his parents.
Listen guys. These people don't want a conversation. Anything you say will be thrown back with insults towards you and your team. They don't have conversations. They flame. There are a few over there that would have a conversation with you, but they won't come over here and they'll be drowned out by this group of short bus riders.
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