Nebraska might go after another coach, but If it's SF they want, it's going to be other P5 school (or Nebraska) that decide where he goes, not UCF.
UCF making a push to keep Frost away from P5 schools
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By going 1-1 against P5 teams in the regular season, I am surprised you guys were able to make it through such a tough schedule, by the way that penn st team you barely beat went 4-4 in a real conference.
Not so certain he wants to leave. According Orlando Sentinel, the University is trying to raise $1.5 million to fend off Power five schools from hiring Frost or raiding his assistants. Scott has personally made a contribution to the fund
Yes, exactly.
The truth that your boy Riley is a failure hurts so you make up BS about Bo and TO. Everybody knows you can't back anything up.
I'm still waiting for you to answer the question how TO "abandoned" your boy Riley.
Our fans are smart enough to realize that unless a P5 offer comes soon he'll leave. Most would like at least one more season because our team will be even better next year. 26 wins in a row has a nice ring to it.
We're supposed to believe that "coacDubs", a guy typing on a message board knows more about SF's recruitment and recommendations than Dungy who is a trusted advisor and friend of SF? Yeah ok
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You guys stay up too late .... so let's add some facts ....
Who knows why Dungy went on a twitter rant last night. It could be he was drinking and having some fun. It could also be that he is working as an intermediary from Frost to get the Nebraska faithful to back off a bit so they don't get let down at the end of the year. Only time will tell.
With regard to UCF being a "commuter school".... Our football team is better than yours. Our basketball team will beat yours by 25 this year (coached by Johnny Dawkins and VERY GOOD this year).... our baseball team was ranked all year and will be again this year (conference champs) .... tennis teams are ranked and led by John Roddick who we just stole from Oklahoma ... golf made NCAA championships last year... ladies soccer ranked #7 right now and just beat LSU 4-0 ... etc. etc. etc. This is no commuter school and the athletic program is good top to bottom.
With regard to recruiting .... the "star averages" don't take into account transfers. Last year we welcomed a few 4 star kids from places like Alabama ... Sitting out their "transfer" year this year is more 4 star kids from Alabama, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin, and a 5 star kid from Oregon. There is a lot going on that the average fan doesn't see. That his probably why you think UCF fans are insane for defending their team so much.
Who knows why Dungy went on a twitter rant last night. It could be he was drinking and having some fun. It could also be that he is working as an intermediary from Frost to get the Nebraska faithful to back off a bit so they don't get let down at the end of the year. Only time will tell.
With regard to UCF being a "commuter school".... Our football team is better than yours. Our basketball team will beat yours by 25 this year (coached by Johnny Dawkins and VERY GOOD this year).... our baseball team was ranked all year and will be again this year (conference champs) .... tennis teams are ranked and led by John Roddick who we just stole from Oklahoma ... golf made NCAA championships last year... ladies soccer ranked #7 right now and just beat LSU 4-0 ... etc. etc. etc. This is no commuter school and the athletic program is good top to bottom.
With regard to recruiting .... the "star averages" don't take into account transfers. Last year we welcomed a few 4 star kids from places like Alabama ... Sitting out their "transfer" year this year is more 4 star kids from Alabama, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin, and a 5 star kid from Oregon. There is a lot going on that the average fan doesn't see. That his probably why you think UCF fans are insane for defending their team so much.
You are seriously comparing the last 15 years of your program to Nebraska. We may not be that good this year, but lets not act like UCF is even close to the program that Nebraska is. Scott Frost may stay at UCF or he may go, but if anyone thinks he took that job as a permanent destination then you are crazy. College coaches have to recruit, they will always say that they will be somewhere long term or kids won't commit to them, that is just the way it is.
OK. If Frost doesn't take a P5 job in the next 1.5 years, I'll eat my hat live on the internet. Might be here. Might be Tennessee. might be somewhere else.
I will admit, if he stays at UCF I will assume Nebraska didn't offer him. Not only is Nebraska a job 99% of coaches leave UCF for, it is his home state and it is the school he played QB for and won a National Championship at (while RS on another NC team). I understand why it would make sense for him to stay at UCF another year, but you have a take opportunities when they present themselves and this might be his only chance to get this job.
I understand that and honestly it does makes sense for him to stay another year. It also makes sense for Nebraska to go after proven P5 Head coaches with a history of success (if we even have an opening). The thing is, it is now or never for both sides, this may be the only chance for Frost to ever come home and be the HC at the program where he is a legend. On the flip side, this might be Nebraska's only chance to get him, or have to watch him win at other schools for the next 30 years. It really is a tough spot for both sides.
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He we go comparing Baylor to OU, there is no comparison when it comes to these two programs.
I hope in 2019 he's the coach for one of our two teams.
Worst case scenario for UCF fans is he goes to UF
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Because he took his ball and went home. Just like Paul Myers. Now TO taking his cute shots in the media toward the current regime.
Look, it sucked that Blo turned put to be a sub-himan bag of shit. But that's what he was. It's fine that you love him. But even Osborne admitted he may have not been right for the job.
Now back to the discussion, stalker.
I might eat my hat as well. I would be shocked if he stayed after 2018. His team is all freshmen and sophomores and next year they will be unbeatable.
I’d say there’s a chance he could go one more year. Sadly, the more success he has this season the higher the likelihood he’s gone. Of course, I hope he comes back to Nebraska but it seems he will be somewhere besides UCF before long.
Ya, the Dungy that thinks Osborne recommended Frost to Eichorst and Perlman. It shows (a) how disconnected Dungy is or (b) he's got his story mixed up.
MAGA > Democrat loser, from the trailer trash state of Florida.
Maybe I missed something but where did Dungy say Osborne advised Eichorst to hire Frost?
I thought all he said was that Frost had one of the best advisors in Osborne? That is much different.
I thought all he said was that Frost had one of the best advisors in Osborne? That is much different.
The denial is believing Frost is going to stay at UCF long term. He was OC at Oregon which is a more prestigious job than the head coach at UCF. Frost realized that if he was going to get a power 5 job somewhere he had to prove himself as a head coach, which he is doing right now.
I personally don't want Frost as he's a plan B hire for me, but you UCF posters are straight up delusional. Get it through your heads now he's 100% gone. If not this year, the next. It may be Nebraska, but if not, somebody else. You can bet he's scouting programs right now that could be possible destinations in the future.
So the Oregon OC job is better than UCF and held in higher regard, but it's also not good enough to count towards getting a P5 HC job. And to do that, a lower position is needed. Despite the fact he passed over P5 head coaching jobs to come to UCF.
I wouldn't bother with that guy ... he is just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff.
Ok? Nobody is expecting him to stay 10-15+ years. That just isn't the norm. Nowadays if you get to 4 years, it's considered a pretty solid tenure. So he stays here 3-4 years when people are begging he leave after 2? That's a solid run. The program will continue to attract national names when and if a position opens up.
And of course other positions are likely being "scouted." If you're not doing that even in a regular job, you're probably doing something wrong. This is a business. And things can change at the drop of the hat. Makes sense to be somewhat prepared to respond as needed.
I was actually trying to be complimentary of UCF's effort to hang on to Frost, but you are apparently determined to be a complete asswipe regardless of what anyone says here.
You do understand that the P5 jobs he passed up were likely the bottom feeders of P5, right? Places where it would have taken a lot longer to build up an impressive resume against top competition. He likely took the UCF job so that he could build a winning resume faster, as he had a nice built-in recruiting base and would be playing much softer competition than at a bottom feeding P5 team. And he wanted to build up the resume quicker so that he could move on to a top P5 school that much quicker. He is using UF as a faster way to his ultimate goal, a top tier P5 job, whether Nebraska or somewhere else. UCF was a nice 'build up a resume fast and then get out of Dodge even faster' opportunity.
I believe that there is atleast a 50%-50% chance that Scott Frost will remain with UCF at the end of this season regardless of which schools come calling.
I am guessing the P5 jobs that he turned down are not the ones he wanted.
This is the exact same thing Tom Herman did at Houston. Herman had one of the best coordinating jobs in the country at OSU, (you can argue the OC job at OSU is a better job than a lot of head coaching gigs) but he realized he had to prove he was a good head coach on his own, not just someone who worked under Urban Meyer. Herman had no intention of staying long term, thus he left for Texas. This is the same model that Frost is using at UCF. He won a National Championship as a player and coached in a title game at Oregon. As a competitor I am sure he wants the head coaching gig at a blue blood power five. Will he come back to Nebraska, who knows, but UCF fans better be ready for his departure sooner rather than later.
Funny thing is, we have offered to play Florida State repeatedly over the last decade. They are always the ones who refuse to accept the offer. Gotta give Miami props. The Hurricanes were not scared to play a 1-for-1 with UCF a few years ago. We got Stanford coming in 2019 (I think) for the second half of a 1-for-1. We are working on finding a year to have Georgia Tech come to Orlando to replace the game that was cancelled by the hurricane this year. We will take a home-and home series with any P5 team you want to send our way.
Look, I'm a big fan of Scott Frost, but many people are already anointing him the 2nd coming of Urban Meyer or something.
In a year-and-a-half, he has only beaten one team with a winning record (Memphis). He went .500 last year and the 4 conference teams he beat had a combined 4 conference wins. He's mostly just beaten up on bottom-feeders so far. Meanwhile, Tom Herman beat a Top 5 Oklahoma team and a Top 5 Louisville team at Houston last year, as well as a Top 10 FSU team and Louisville on the road the year before.
If UCF can beat Navy, South Florida, and then a Top 10 P5 team in the bowl game, I'll be very impressed. But right now a lot of UCF fans are bragging about beating a bunch of nobodies.
In a year-and-a-half, he has only beaten one team with a winning record (Memphis). He went .500 last year and the 4 conference teams he beat had a combined 4 conference wins. He's mostly just beaten up on bottom-feeders so far. Meanwhile, Tom Herman beat a Top 5 Oklahoma team and a Top 5 Louisville team at Houston last year, as well as a Top 10 FSU team and Louisville on the road the year before.
If UCF can beat Navy, South Florida, and then a Top 10 P5 team in the bowl game, I'll be very impressed. But right now a lot of UCF fans are bragging about beating a bunch of nobodies.
Red I 73 gets it. Scott Frost may very well leave after this season. He may even go to Nebraska. But it is not the slam dunk conclusion that some delusional Husker fans seem to think it is. This doesn't have the look of a man who has both feet out the door ready to leave.
That's a valid point and UCF fans are thinking about that as well. But let's not pretend like every high ranked P5 team has played a difficult schedule either. Ohio State got beat decisively by Oklahoma and their wins have been over the following amazingly tough teams...Indiana, Army, UNLV, Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska. Color me unimpressed with those victories.
Harry Caray....great post. I DO think Scott Frost kind of has 'it' and will make a great HC at a power 5 school. That is MY opinion, though. It does not mean that it will be the opinion of Bill Moos. If it's not, fine.....as long as we start to be competitive again.
UCF fans rolling in here acting like they already have a program that will soon be considered for a P5 bid are hilarious. While, SF has done a nice job with your turnaround, he's not the only up and coming young hc that NU could find success with.
Also, you guys acting as if SF would not leave UCF for NU if he is offered the job are delusional. That is a fact. You guys had better hope that NU decides to go in another direction....or you better hope that Tenn, Miss, and etc choose to go in another direction, also.
As I said....trust me. IF NU decides they want Frost as their next HC, you can pass the hat around like a kegger in high school all you want. It won't matter. NU can make it happen and Frost won't turn it down to stay at UCF.
UCF fans rolling in here acting like they already have a program that will soon be considered for a P5 bid are hilarious. While, SF has done a nice job with your turnaround, he's not the only up and coming young hc that NU could find success with.
Also, you guys acting as if SF would not leave UCF for NU if he is offered the job are delusional. That is a fact. You guys had better hope that NU decides to go in another direction....or you better hope that Tenn, Miss, and etc choose to go in another direction, also.
As I said....trust me. IF NU decides they want Frost as their next HC, you can pass the hat around like a kegger in high school all you want. It won't matter. NU can make it happen and Frost won't turn it down to stay at UCF.
The only delusional fans are the UCF fans. Frost may love living in the Orlando area and he may very well want to stay put there for a few more years. Almost all NU fans will admit that this is not a slam dunk and Frost may turn us down... may turn a lot of people down ... to stay at UCF for a while longer. But if any UCF fan is harboring the illusion that Frost will stay long term at a non power 5 school, then it is they who are delusional.
And frankly, given the ups and downs of college football, Frost has to know, that if he finishes with a very strong record this year, that his stock may never be higher than it is now since his team might damn well regress next year. Because you never know... the injury bug can decimate you in Fall practice, 5 of your starters get arrested for rape... etc.... You never know.
So my hunch is Frost leaves this year for a power 5 school. And the fact he is soliciting funds and donating money himself means absolutely nothing. It just means he believes in UCF football and wants to leave it in great shape, even if he leaves... which he will at some point.
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