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UCF making a push to keep Frost away from P5 schools

I know Nebraska is a shadow of its former self. But even our shadow is more impressive than the entirety of UCF football as it now stands. Ditto for a team like Tennessee. UCF has a long ways to go before it thinks it can go toe to toe with a blue blood program for the services of top notch coaches.
 
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I believe that there is atleast a 50%-50% chance that Scott Frost will remain with UCF at the end of this season regardless of which schools come calling.
I agree there is a good chance he is at UCF next year, but not regardless of who comes calling. That's crazy. There are about five potential openings that he would probably jump at and if none come open or none offer him, I'm sure he will stay.
 
The funny thing about this whole conversation is ....

Husker fans are acting like UCF fans think Frost will stay forever ... when we know that isn't the truth.

UCF fans are acting like Husker fans think it is guaranteed that Frost will leave for Nebraska .... when most of us know that isn't the truth either. (the rational thinking ones).
 
If Frost is who we want, he'll be able to buy his wife a huge vacation house in Orlando and anywhere else she wants. And I'm sure the Hawks family will be happy to fly them down there on their private jet.
 
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I was actually trying to be complimentary of UCF's effort to hang on to Frost, but you are apparently determined to be a complete asswipe regardless of what anyone says here.
It seemed like a backhanded compliment to me. Good luck the rest of the season.
 
I agree there is a good chance he is at UCF next year, but not regardless of who comes calling. That's crazy. There are about five potential openings that he would probably jump at and if none come open or none offer him, I'm sure he will stay.
I don't believe its Crazy at all. I believe he likes it where he is, and he is building HIS program from the ground up with limited Fan Expectations. And, both he and his wife, who is about to have their first baby, say they really like it at UCF. And he makes a Couple Million a year now, and is about to make more. He has a VERY nice situation right where he is. I am not saying he wouldn't accept an offer from a Household Name school, but do believe it is atleast a 50-50 chance he stays right where he is, regardless of the offers. And I also believe it will take more than just money to get him to move.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And people don't have to agree with me, but this is my opinion on Scott Frost.
 
I don't believe its Crazy at all. I believe he likes it where he is, and he is building HIS program from the ground up with limited Fan Expectations. And, both he and his wife, who is about to have their first baby, say they really like it at UCF. And he makes a Couple Million a year now, and is about to make more. He has a VERY nice situation right where he is. I am not saying he wouldn't accept an offer from a Household Name school, but do believe it is atleast a 50-50 chance he stays right where he is, regardless of the offers. And I also believe it will take more than just money to get him to move.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And people don't have to agree with me, but this is my opinion on Scott Frost.
Good post. But the million dollar question is this: how ambitious is Scott Frost with regard to his coaching career? If he has little ambition and just wants a safe and secure school where he can pocket millions while raising his kids in sunny Florida then he will stay. But if he is ambitious (and I think he is) he views his current job as a stepping stone and not a destination. And as I said elsewhere, Frost has to know that his stock as a head coach for a blue blood power 5 team may never be higher than it is right now. The iron is hot NOW.
If a blue blood P5 team offers Frost millions, he will leave UCF in a heartbeat.
 
I remember when Nick Saban said he was not going to be the coach at Alabama. (December 21, 2006) Well he ended up at Alabama. So no one should ever take coach speak for the truth. All coaches will say that they are going to be back, until they are gone. They are recruiting high school kids. If they told recruits that they had no intention of being there the following year, then who would commit to them.
 
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Good post. But the million dollar question is this: how ambitious is Scott Frost with regard to his coaching career? If he has little ambition and just wants a safe and secure school where he can pocket millions while raising his kids in sunny Florida then he will stay. But if he is ambitious (and I think he is) he views his current job as a stepping stone and not a destination. And as I said elsewhere, Frost has to know that his stock as a head coach for a blue blood power 5 team may never be higher than it is right now. The iron is hot NOW.
If a blue blood P5 team offers Frost millions, he will leave UCF in a heartbeat.
And if he and his wife came out and said they hate living in the Orlando area, then people would view him as uncommitted long term to the university.
 
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I remember when Nick Saban said he was not going to be the coach at Alabama. (December 21, 2006) Well he ended up at Alabama. So no one should ever take coach speak for the truth. All coaches will say that they are going to be back, until they are gone. They are recruiting high school kids. If they told recruits that they had no intention of being there the following year, then who would commit to them.
Exactly. If you are Frost you know that so far NU has not fired Riley or Tennessee Davis. And no school has yet offered him squat and may not. So of course you keep saying and doing all the right things
 
I remember when Nick Saban said he was not going to be the coach at Alabama. (December 21, 2006) Well he ended up at Alabama. So no one should ever take coach speak for the truth. All coaches will say that they are going to be back, until they are gone. They are recruiting high school kids. If they told recruits that they had no intention of being there the following year, then who would commit to them.
Scott Frost is 10x the man that Nick Saban is. We can agree on that right?
 
Frost has an undefeated season going - of course he's going to talk about how much he loves and wants to stay at UCF. The last thing he wants is his players getting distracted because they think he's leaving, and end up losing a couple of games here. I'm sure that's why he told Tony Dungy to say what he did.

In the end, a man is only as faithful as his options.
 
It seemed like a backhanded compliment to me. Good luck the rest of the season.
Not intended that way at all. I do think Frost will leave UCF for a Power 5 school - if not Nebraska, then one of his other likely suitors. But if UCF makes a strong effort to keep him, that still speaks well of the program and other prospective coaches will take notice.
 
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The only delusional fans are the UCF fans. Frost may love living in the Orlando area and he may very well want to stay put there for a few more years. Almost all NU fans will admit that this is not a slam dunk and Frost may turn us down... may turn a lot of people down ... to stay at UCF for a while longer. But if any UCF fan is harboring the illusion that Frost will stay long term at a non power 5 school, then it is they who are delusional.

And frankly, given the ups and downs of college football, Frost has to know, that if he finishes with a very strong record this year, that his stock may never be higher than it is now since his team might damn well regress next year. Because you never know... the injury bug can decimate you in Fall practice, 5 of your starters get arrested for rape... etc.... You never know.

So my hunch is Frost leaves this year for a power 5 school. And the fact he is soliciting funds and donating money himself means absolutely nothing. It just means he believes in UCF football and wants to leave it in great shape, even if he leaves... which he will at some point.
There are plenty in here saying exactly the opposite. That NU can do what they want, get who they want, any they will say yes. And if they don't, well, it means NU didn't really want them anyway. I think the fact that someone like Riley was hired anyway - from a mediocre to bottom tier P5 OSUw program shows that just may not be the case anymore.

And a coaching leaving at some point? Ok, welcome to modern college football? We'll see assuming Riley is let go at the end of the year and Frost is called up if he starts working on a new red themed wardrobe, though.
 
There are plenty in here saying exactly the opposite. That NU can do what they want, get who they want, any they will say yes. And if they don't, well, it means NU didn't really want them anyway. I think the fact that someone like Riley was hired anyway - from a mediocre to bottom tier P5 OSUw program shows that just may not be the case anymore.

And a coaching leaving at some point? Ok, welcome to modern college football? We'll see assuming Riley is let go at the end of the year and Frost is called up if he starts working on a new red themed wardrobe, though.


Not true. The only person that "plenty in here" are saying that NU could get if they wanted is Scott Frost. That is much different than "plenty in here" saying that NU can do what they want, get who they want and they will say yes.

The rest of your comment is just you acting out like a little brother who knows that if the big brother want your candy he will take it.
 
I don't believe its Crazy at all. I believe he likes it where he is, and he is building HIS program from the ground up with limited Fan Expectations. And, both he and his wife, who is about to have their first baby, say they really like it at UCF...

Finally...another Husker fan who actually gets it.

I really don't see where the rest of you are getting the idea that we expect Scott Frost to stay around FOREVER. I think I have seen ONE UCF fan suggest anything remotely close to that. The rest of us admit he will move on eventually...maybe as soon as after next year. We just don't think it will be this year.
 
Finally...another Husker fan who actually gets it.

I really don't see where the rest of you are getting the idea that we expect Scott Frost to stay around FOREVER. I think I have seen ONE UCF fan suggest anything remotely close to that. The rest of us admit he will move on eventually...maybe as soon as after next year. We just don't think it will be this year.

The problem with that line of thinking is that, while big jobs open every year, the job at your alma mater doesn't. If Frost says no to Nebraska this year, and if Nebraska is his "dream job", he may not get another opportunity to be the head coach at Nebraska.

I am sure Dabo Swinney's dream job is Alabama. If Saban retires after this year, and Swinney says no because he isn't done at Clemson, the odds of him ever coaching Alabama are probably gone.
 
There are plenty in here saying exactly the opposite. That NU can do what they want, get who they want, any they will say yes. And if they don't, well, it means NU didn't really want them anyway.

I don't believe that any lucid Nebraska fan thinks that way. There are exactly zero Nebraska fans that have posted that in here.
 
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I will admit, if he stays at UCF I will assume Nebraska didn't offer him. Not only is Nebraska a job 99% of coaches leave UCF for, it is his home state and it is the school he played QB for and won a National Championship at (while RS on another NC team). I understand why it would make sense for him to stay at UCF another year, but you have a take opportunities when they present themselves and this might be his only chance to get this job.

You guys got your coach from Oregon State. That should tell you exactly where Nebraska is as a program right now.

Your perspective of what Nebraska is and what Nebraska actually is are way different. Sorry bud.
 
Because he took his ball and went home. Just like Paul Myers. Now TO taking his cute shots in the media toward the current regime.
Look, it sucked that Blo turned put to be a sub-himan bag of shit. But that's what he was. It's fine that you love him. But even Osborne admitted he may have not been right for the job.
Now back to the discussion, stalker.
It's a message board. You should expect somebody to respond when you post stupid stuff. You, more than anybody, should know that.

He took his ball and went home? You mean he retired. And you are upset about him not coming back to bail out your failed coach? He is retired, genius. It's not his fault your boy sucks.

I don't care about the former coach, I just pointed out you were making stuff up, which you do and gave you a chance to substantiate it, which you can't, of course.

Because, as I said, you are full of BS.
 
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You guys got your coach from Oregon State. That should tell you exactly where Nebraska is as a program right now.

Your perspective of what Nebraska is and what Nebraska actually is are way different. Sorry bud.
We got Riley because that's who the former AD wanted, he didn't even do a search. I'm sorry it hurts your feelings that you might lose your coach, but you just sound ignorant right now.
 
It's a message board. You should expect somebody to respond when you post stupid stuff. You, more than anybody, should know that.

He took his ball and went home? You mean he retired. And you are upset about him not coming back to bail out your failed coach? He is retired, genius. It's not his fault your boy sucks.

I don't care about the former coach, I just pointed out you were making stuff up, which you do and gave you a chance to substantiate it, which you can't, of course.

Because, as I said, you are full of BS.
Right there in the contracts. And Yes, Osborne is a dick who does not support anybody but his hires. He refused to come talk to Callahans team early in his tenure. And he made a show of "giving up his box" this year. That is his right, but shows just how bitter he is. He powdered Blos diaper so many times.
Keep fighting for that great guy Blo, maybe some day he will grow a sack and coach at a real level again, not JV. That clown is cashing checks because he is a bitter douche. No wonder Osborne liked him so much.
 
Right there in the contracts. And Yes, Osborne is a dick who does not support anybody but his hires. He refused to come talk to Callahans team early in his tenure. And he made a show of "giving up his box" this year. That is his right, but shows just how bitter he is. He powdered Blos diaper so many times.
Keep fighting for that great guy Blo, maybe some day he will grow a sack and coach at a real level again, not JV. That clown is cashing checks because he is a bitter douche. No wonder Osborne liked him so much.

You’re running out of strawmen. It was less than a week ago you were worried about Rimingtons hashtags.
 
I have no idea what Frost wants to do, short term or long term. If Riley fails, I would think Frost would be our primary target though.

I'm gonna exclude NU briefly to make a point. There's certain schools where the ultimate measure of a coaches success hinges upon winning a national championship. And if it's not a national championship, it's years and years of winning at a high level. There's talk of McElwain's seat getting warm and Florida (3-3 so far this year) has won the division both years of his time there. Take a guy like Harbaugh, will he be considered successful if he doesn't win a NC. Some people on here say Harbaugh is failing and they've won 10 games both years. We're not the only meat grinder when it comes to coaching expectations.

I think there are coaches that are happy right where they are. Maybe Frost likes it where he's at, maybe he wants to come back to NU, or maybe he's waiting on one of the highest NC probability schools to come calling. I don't know.
 
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I don't believe that any lucid Nebraska fan thinks that way. There are exactly zero Nebraska fans that have posted that in here.
Thinking you can probably hire a native son coach with less than two years experience from UCF now equals thinking you can do what you want, get anyone you want. These guys are insufferable. I've never seen such a bad case of little mans sysndrome.
 
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There are plenty in here saying exactly the opposite. That NU can do what they want, get who they want, any they will say yes. And if they don't, well, it means NU didn't really want them anyway. I think the fact that someone like Riley was hired anyway - from a mediocre to bottom tier P5 OSUw program shows that just may not be the case anymore.

And a coaching leaving at some point? Ok, welcome to modern college football? We'll see assuming Riley is let go at the end of the year and Frost is called up if he starts working on a new red themed wardrobe, though.

Us hiring Riley was as much a function of Harvey Perlman hiring an unproven Athletic Director that had zero contacts in the coaching community as it was Nebraska losing all of its cache as a program. We'll see all of this play out in about 5 weeks from now, when a guy that is well-connected (Moos) makes a strong hire when he lets Mike Riley go.
 
You’re running out of strawmen. It was less than a week ago you were worried about Rimingtons hashtags.
My nuts are really tired of fan boys like you tugging on them. Tommy Boy AD is gone, but the damage is done. Message received Nation Wide that we don't need no damn talented kids here with darker pigment in their skin.
 
My nuts are really tired of fan boys like you tugging on them. Tommy Boy AD is gone, but the damage is done. Message received Nation Wide that we don't need no damn talented kids here with darker pigment in their skin.

Times really are tough for you and your boy MR. But hey, you being worried about a hashtag is like Harvey Weinstein being worried about the NRA. Tough look.

You’re still not following your agreement of two hashtags on all posts.
 
My nuts are really tired of fan boys like you tugging on them. Tommy Boy AD is gone, but the damage is done. Message received Nation Wide that we don't need no damn talented kids here with darker pigment in their skin.

Yeah, TO did damage with his hires, but this isn't a black and white issue. And I'm not talking skin color. I'm saying that just because people think it's more important to get a good coaching staff hired than it is to worry about a recruiting class...doesn't mean that we also believe we should fill all future classes with 5-heart players.

We can get a good coaching staff in place, that will be able to recruit at very least better than average. Unless coaches just take the summer off (Solich, and to a lesser degree Bo), coaches will always be able to recruit Top 25 classes here. The difference will be finding the coaching staff that can take 3 and 4-Star talent and develop it. It's being done all around us in the West Division, so it's not a stretch to think that we should be able to do it too, with better talent than is being recruited at Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, and Purdue.
 
The funny thing about this whole conversation is ....

Husker fans are acting like UCF fans think Frost will stay forever ... when we know that isn't the truth.

UCF fans are acting like Husker fans think it is guaranteed that Frost will leave for Nebraska .... when most of us know that isn't the truth either. (the rational thinking ones).

This is spot on, no UCF fan thinks that SF will be here long term, and I've only seen a few NU fans think that SF to NU is a slam dunk.
 
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I know Nebraska is a shadow of its former self. But even our shadow is more impressive than the entirety of UCF football as it now stands. Ditto for a team like Tennessee. UCF has a long ways to go before it thinks it can go toe to toe with a blue blood program for the services of top notch coaches.

This is the exact frame of thought that has led to Nebraska and Tennessee living in the shadow of their former selves.
 
Good post. But the million dollar question is this: how ambitious is Scott Frost with regard to his coaching career? If he has little ambition and just wants a safe and secure school where he can pocket millions while raising his kids in sunny Florida then he will stay. But if he is ambitious (and I think he is) he views his current job as a stepping stone and not a destination. And as I said elsewhere, Frost has to know that his stock as a head coach for a blue blood power 5 team may never be higher than it is right now. The iron is hot NOW.
If a blue blood P5 team offers Frost millions, he will leave UCF in a heartbeat.

Now it's ambition? Wow.
 
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