Turner Gill > Tommie Frazier : Prove me Wrong
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You are drinking heavy to believe this.
Are you 23 or so?
What a poor take. One won two National Championships, the other did not.
Plus Tommie was a prick by most accounts.
Are you 23 or so?
What a poor take. One won two National Championships, the other did not.
Plus Tommie was a prick by most accounts.
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Turner really had only one chance to win a natty and came up short:
- In 1980, he was a freshman and didn't play on the varsity because Jeff Quinn was the established starter.
- In 1981, he didn't start until the fifth game, and he was injured in the 10th, ending his season, so he wasn't part of the team that played for a national title in the Orange Bowl against Clemson.
- In 1982, the national title was lost on defense to Penn State early in the season. Of course, the officials are primarily to blame. Gill put the team in position to win, but the bizarre sideline and end zone calls ended the title run in September.
- In 1983, he threw an incomplete pass to seal Nebraska's fate in the 31-30 OB loss to Miami. In Miami. At Miami's Orange Bowl Stadium. Their home field.
Some things you don't have to prove. Everyone just knows.
Being one of the top 3 QB''s all time at Nebraska is nothing to sneeze at, but that's where it ends.
Turner was good, and a better passer than Frazier but Frazier just refused to lose. That man had the heart and drive of Grant & Jason but he played QB. Turner is the better human being but Frazier was the better quarterback.
Switch places with the 2 and same results. If I had to choose, I’d take Turner. Bit better passer.
Knows what?
Tommie played on the toughest most competitive teams in Husker history and Turner Gill was chopped liver?
Tommie had an amazing D at his beck and call his entire career.
Turner had everything on his back for 3 years. Defense was half-assed garbage those years.
Actually, freshmen were eligible then. They just didn't play very often, especially freshmen QBs.
if you have 1 shot.. you have to score. I don't care who is on your team, name whomever you want. You MUST score. Pick your QB.
I'm going with Frazier every time.
Not saying Gill could not get it done, but the odds of making something happen when you must do it.. Frazier did that so often, everyone believed, and trusted in him to do that.
I'm going with Frazier every time.
Not saying Gill could not get it done, but the odds of making something happen when you must do it.. Frazier did that so often, everyone believed, and trusted in him to do that.
I think Gill was a better passer. I would have a hard time arguing he was a better overall QB, though I do think the '94 and '95 teams would have won titles with Gill at the helm.
apples / oranges
gilmore / srv
page / eddy
claudia sheffer / monica beluchi
decosta / hannah
pert / botham
nordhavn / flemming
washington / grant
devany / dr tom
lp / rozier
alexander / charles the hammer
calvin / knox
machen / van till
aj floyt / petty
coke / dr pepper
70's steelers / 80's 9ners
bradshaw / montana
phesant / quail
1100 / 870
alizee / adrianna grande
etc.
gilmore / srv
page / eddy
claudia sheffer / monica beluchi
decosta / hannah
pert / botham
nordhavn / flemming
washington / grant
devany / dr tom
lp / rozier
alexander / charles the hammer
calvin / knox
machen / van till
aj floyt / petty
coke / dr pepper
70's steelers / 80's 9ners
bradshaw / montana
phesant / quail
1100 / 870
alizee / adrianna grande
etc.
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I'll take Frost at Missouri with :57 left and a Natty on the line from your own 37.
Yes, he could have, but Osborne chose not to play him. Freshmen became eligible in 1972, but Nebraska rarely used them. Because depth.
Yup. Monte Anthony got a lot of playing time at I-back as a freshman, right after the eligibility rules changed. But after that, not many freshmen saw the field for NU for many years. A few here and there, but it was rare.
If you have one play from the 2 yard line for all the marbles. … then you obviously go with Gill .. it’s a no brainier
Frazier damn near won 3 titles. Game set match
I agree in general but the stats are closer than you'd think. Some favor Frazier. Rushing not close. Wins of substance not close. Titles? C'mon.
Turner damn near won 3 titles.
Our 81-83 teams were phucking legit. The start of what most see as Huskerdom.
You've being stupidly aggressive with this comparison. You're acting like the general attitude is that Gill and the 81-83 teams sucked and you're the only one defending them. Which is complete and utter nonsense. Every Nebraska fan knows those teams we're great and Gill was great. Stop trying to start fights that don't exist.
People love using team accomplishments to rate players. Winning definitely matters when assessing a QB but it’s not the end-all-be-all. If it is I guess Eli Manning is better than Dan Marino.
Gill led the greatest offense in college history. Like others said his defenses were nothing compared to Tommie’s because TO finally realized he needed more speed in the 90s. There’s definitely an argument for Gill being our best QB.
Gill led the greatest offense in college history. Like others said his defenses were nothing compared to Tommie’s because TO finally realized he needed more speed in the 90s. There’s definitely an argument for Gill being our best QB.
I’ll piggy back on this thread and ask which Husker QB is severely underrated because their supporting cast wasn’t on par with Frazier’s or Gill’s?
I’ll offer up Gerry Gdowski
I’ll offer up Gerry Gdowski
Okay. Frazier was the best on days that end in a National Championship.
Jerry Tagge and Van Bronwson were the first.😆
No he didn’t. He about won 1. Tommy won 2 and missed a third by Byron Bennett being a bad kicker in the clutch. Tommy also finished runner up for the Heisman…. I think Turner had more passing skill, but Tommy was money.
