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I agree with his point on Pelini. However, what I struggle with is that the same administration that allowed Pelini to continue that behavior for years is still in place. The head of Volkswagen was fired and I assume the middle execs/management that allowed it has or will be fired too.Well, look there. A very well respected and highly successful former NU coach speaking out in support of the coaching change that was made. Do y'all still think Pelini wasn't/isn't a cancer that won't easily be cut out?
I actually agree with what you are saying but the fact of the matter is that Perlman is on his way out the door and Eichorst wasn't involved in the hiring of Pelini.I agree with his point on Pelini. However, what I struggle with is that the same administration that allowed Pelini to continue that behavior for years is still in place. The head of Volkswagen was fired and I assume the middle execs/management that allowed it has or will be fired too.
Why does NU administration get a pass on hiring Pelini and allowing him to create an environment like that? Are they not held accountable as well? If you are going "cut out a cancer" don't you want to cut out all of it to prevent it from coming back?
So we are back to liking Eichorst now? I'm losing track of the herd movement during these volatile times.Are you shitting me BigRedPimp. They had to essentially force TO out to bring in Eichorst to fire Bo.
I'll give you that Harvey may have meddled too much with football, but you are flat out wrong
I agree with everything he said, but the title of this thread is misleading. The statement was about Bo and the need to get rid of him, not laying any snack down to Riley haters. Unless, of course, we're still dealing with the mentality that criticism of Riley = praise for Bo.
I agree with his point on Pelini. However, what I struggle with is that the same administration that allowed Pelini to continue that behavior for years is still in place. The head of Volkswagen was fired and I assume the middle execs/management that allowed it has or will be fired too.
Why does NU administration get a pass on hiring Pelini and allowing him to create an environment like that? Are they not held accountable as well? If you are going "cut out a cancer" don't you want to cut out all of it to prevent it from coming back?
I haven't seen many posts mention Harvey's accountability in this situation. He's the one constant in the ever changing athletic department so I wondered if he was being scrutinized. Maybe not worth it since he's retiring. Will be interesting to see if/how any impact to athletic department in the future once he's gone.I actually agree with what you are saying but the fact of the matter is that Perlman is on his way out the door and Eichorst wasn't involved in the hiring of Pelini.
The argument isn't whether or not Pelini should have been fired. The argument is whether or not Riley should have been hired. Pettit is addressing the first question, but he doesn't provide an answer to the second.
Holy freaking crap! Has anyone ever seen another (former or current) coach at the same school go out on a limb like that? I have never seen that before.
The argument isn't whether or not Pelini should have been fired. The argument is whether or not Riley should have been hired. Pettit is addressing the first question, but he doesn't provide an answer to the second.
Really dumb thread title.
HP's accountability amounts to giving the fans what they wanted back when he brought Tom back as AD. From there it was ALL Tom. He had complete control of football. HE made the decision to hire Bo but for whatever reason wouldn't correct his decision way back when Bo told him to F off over canning Carl. Tom should have ended the fiasco right then and there.I haven't seen many posts mention Harvey's accountability in this situation. He's the one constant in the ever changing athletic department so I wondered if he was being scrutinized. Maybe not worth it since he's retiring. Will be interesting to see if/how any impact to athletic department in the future once he's gone.
I haven't seen many posts mention Harvey's accountability in this situation. He's the one constant in the ever changing athletic department so I wondered if he was being scrutinized. Maybe not worth it since he's retiring. Will be interesting to see if/how any impact to athletic department in the future once he's gone.
Agree with youHP's accountability amounts to giving the fans what they wanted back when he brought Tom back as AD. From there it was ALL Tom. He had complete control of football. HE made the decision to hire Bo but for whatever reason wouldn't correct his decision way back when Bo told him to F off over canning Carl. Tom should have ended the fiasco right then and there.
We can and will have both a good culture and good winning record.So will having a good culture but a bad record be enough?
While Pettit's message is partly that Bo needed to go it also includes support for Riley, as well. Pettit didn't say that Riley was the "correct hire" but he does point out that it will take some time to develop a more positive culture in the NU football program due to the cancerous culture Bo created. Point being, give Riley some time. He even went so far to say that Pettit, himself, was nearly run out of town after his second year as head VB coach at NU. Quite frankly, how can anybody definitively state that Riley should/should not have been the chosen hire so early into his stint, especially when you take into account the mess he inherited, culture wise?The argument isn't whether or not Pelini should have been fired. The argument is whether or not Riley should have been hired. Pettit is addressing the first question, but he doesn't provide an answer to the second.
I agree with you. However, I would venture a guess that the football community is waaaaaayyy more vocal to Harvey (for better or worse) than the academia community. I would also guess that football was top of mind during the move to the B10.It;'s extremely important remember that a chancellor has waaaayyy more on his/her plate than athletics.
Really dumb thread title.
I know. You want your candy now or you'll throw yourself down on the floor and kick and scream. Its going to take at least two years IMO to get guys recruited and on the field that can make a difference. We are recruiting some JUCOs to try to help us at DE and linebacker, but you can't fix our O line over night. Hopefully some of the guys redshirting can step in and make a difference right away. I expect us to have a winning record and go to a bowl next year. Then it all depends on recruiting these next two years.When?
There is no reason we can't have both. Gotta cure the cultural issues, first, to be able to make advances in other areas.We can and will have both a good culture and good winning record.
I know. You want your candy now or you'll throw yourself down on the floor and kick and scream. Its going to take at least two years IMO to get guys recruited and on the field that can make a difference. We are recruiting some JUCOs to try to help us at DE and linebacker, but you can't fix our O line over night. Hopefully some of the guys redshirting can step in and make a difference right away. I expect us to have a winning record and go to a bowl next year. Then it all depends on recruiting these next two years.
I don't know the right answer, but what if we go through another 2-3 years "rebuilding" to Riley's way and we go 9-4 consistently afterwards? No way was Pelini's way the best way, but what if Riley's nice way is 9-4 as well? Will Husker fans feel better or worse?I know. You want your candy now or you'll throw yourself down on the floor and kick and scream. Its going to take at least two years IMO to get guys recruited and on the field that can make a difference. We are recruiting some JUCOs to try to help us at DE and linebacker, but you can't fix our O line over night. Hopefully some of the guys redshirting can step in and make a difference right away. I expect us to have a winning record and go to a bowl next year. Then it all depends on recruiting these next two years.
I think we are being told to trust the process, again. Like we were with Cally, Pelini, now Riley. Tough spot for Riley or any coach as the instability creates even more impatience.I just wanted to point out some typographical/maybe mental errors. Before the season, many said "it'll be great THIS year". After the season started, that changed to "it'll be great NEXT year". You put "two years" in your statement. It might just be better to put "three years" or maybe "four years", heck maybe "ten years".