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OT: The Kentucky Derby

I'm going to reply to my own post here because it lays out the strengths and vulnerabilities of two horses, Fierceness and Sierra Leone. It explains how it fits into each of their profiles, how it could and DID affect each horses performance. His analysis of Fierceness was exactly on the button, and Sierra Leone performed almost exactly as his personality suggested it would. Contrary to those who felt I was wasting board members time, this is something that should be taken into account in this race every year. The mere chaos of the race demands you know how each horse could reasonably expect to react.

Now, as far as why the Performance Numbers I choose to use are important, these are the horses that had a number good enough to compete for the win. Not all performed to their previous bests, but overall, three did, and 3 didn't, and the other 14 horses lacked any number that made them serious contenders.
You can look at my post that showed their 2 year old top, and the last 2 prep races they ran. Those numbers are:

Mystik Dan 0,3.
Sierra Leone 4,1.
Forever Young 1,1.
Fierceness 4,-3
Just Steel 7,1
Just A Touch 2,2

In the last 10 runnings of the Derby, the race yesterday would be right in the middle at each fraction and final time. Meaning the race wasn't run fast enough for any pace meltdown, so the horses that had the type of Performance Figure to run well, for the most part did run well.

Since Fierceness showed he was likely to stop, the next best numbers were, in order, Mystik Dan, Sierra Leone and Forever Young, and you could have flip flopped Sierra Leone and Forever Young.

Fierceness was hooked and stopped, Just A Touch's lack of seasoning was not on par with his Daddys', and Just Steel had no business being on the front end.

Once I finish responding to any posts directed to me, I will put this thread to bed. Thanks to all who gave it their best shot.
I'll reply to my own post again, now that I have the final Performance Figures from the Kentucky Derby. It was a very average Derby, nothing special.

Only 1 horse ran a new TOP and that was Catching Freedom who ran 5th with a PF of 3.
His pattern now is 9-9//7-5-4-3. A horse that's still developing and improving.

There were 4 horses that PAIRED: Sierra Leone, Forever Young, T O Password and Resilience.

There were 4 horses that ran OFF: Stronghold, Honor Marie, Endlessly and the winner Mystik Dan who received a 3 from his previous race. This 3 was received because of the ground saving trip, the horse ran no better than before.

There were 11 horses that X'd, some had poor X's, others totally bombed.

Capiche, as far as Mindframe, he ran a 4 which is OFF. Although his debut was visually impressive, it wasnt that good of a race and his 2nd out of his career, the top 6 finishers in the Derby would have beaten him. IMO, his next race will begin to show if he is the real deal because he might face some real racehorses for the first time in his career.

As I posted prior to the Derby, no horse has won from Post # 2 (Sierra Leone) since 1999, No horse has EVER won from Post 17 (Fierceness), and top jockeys Geroux, Gafflione and Irad Ortiz are now 0-19 to move their horse up in the Derby. History matters until it doesn't.
 
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100 Beyer for Mystic Dan

This appears to be an average group of 3 year olds even with Fierceness' 2 huge Beyer numbers. That's not to say some horses couldn't develop later in the year.

Looking at the Derby splits, the last 4F was run in 52 seconds, the last quarter a little under 26 seconds.

Brian Hernandez said he watched Calvin Borel win many races with rail-riding trips and knew a similar ride could prove the difference, The fact that Dornoch didn't break well from post 1 gave Hernandez the opportunity to take the rail position behind Track Phantom.

It'll be interesting to see how many Derby horses go to the Preakness. I would think Sierra Leone will skip the Preakness and wait for the Belmont at Saratoga. I assume Muth will be the morning line favorite at Pimlico
The field has now been set for this Saturday's Preakness Stakes:

**THIS IS NOW EDITED ON THURSDAY MORNING, MAY 16TH TO INCLUDE THE PERFORMANCE NUMBERS OF THE ENTIRE FIELD. I HAVEN'T UPDATED THE MORNING LINE ODDS.** T=TOP, P=PAIR, O=OFF, X=X
In Parenthesis, the percentages of each horse to run a new TOP, PAIR, Run OFF, or Run an X:

1. Mugatu, Joe Bravo 20/1..... 11-13-14//11-16-11-11-7.....PPT (45-26-18-11)
2. Uncle Heavy, Irad Ortiz 20/1..... 5-13-5//4-8.....PPO (25-42-20-13)
3. Catching Freedom, Prat 6/1 .....9-9//7-5-4-3.....TPT (44-26-20-9)
4. Muth, J. Hernandex 8/5 SCRATCHED
5. Mystik Dan, BJ Hernandez 5/2..... 9-6-14//9-0-3-3.....TOO (10-33-32-25)
6. Seize The Grey, J. Torres 15/1..... 8-13-8-14//6-7-6-4.....PPT (45-26-18-11)
7. Just Steel, J. Rosario 15/1..... 15-9-2//8-2-7-1-18.....XTX (7-28-24-41)
8. Tuscan Gold, Gafflione 8/1..... 10//5-4.....TTP (18-36-30-17)
9. Imagination, Dettori 6/1..... 8-8//8-5-5-5.....TPP (24-45-20-11)
(These percentages in the parenthesis are derived from between 150 and 550 starts by 3 year olds around the country in the last 2 years that had that exact Pattern, for example, Mugata...525 horses that were 3 years old ran a new TOP 45% of the time, 26% of the time they PAIRED these best number, 18% of the time they ran OFF, and 11% of the time they X'd.)

The two horses most likely to run a new TOP are Seize the Grey and Catching Freedom. Having said that, they arrived at the New Top in different fashions. Seize The Grey won a flat 1 MILE race to reach a new TOP of 4, whereas, Catching Freedom reached a new TOP of 3 going the Preakness distance of 1 1/4 mile. So, of the two, the one most likely to run a new top is Catching Freedom.

As Pelini said, and I think most horse players would agree, this is a poor race to wager on. By pure PF numbers alone, there appear to be 6 horses that could win this race. Of those 6, there are only 3 horses worth betting on.
When Muth scratched, it changed the pace scenario, making the outcome more wide open.

Among the unknowns is how Catching Freedom, Mystik Dan and Just Steel perform coming off of just 14 days rest. The past 10 Derby Winners, as I illustrated near the bottom of this post, indicated new TOPS are rare this race for Derby Winners, less than 50% will run a new TOP or PAIR, and over 50% will run OFF or X.

The likely scenario will be Imagination and Seize The Grey on the front end, followed by Just Steel and Tuscan Gold, the next flight will be Mystik Dan and Uncle Henry followed by Mugata and the closer would be Catching Freedom. The real running, as always, will be in the last 1/4-1/2 mile of the race.

The faster the pace the more it helps Mystik Dan and Catching Freedom, the slower the pace the more it helps Imagination. "On paper" the two fastest horses in this race are Mystik Dan and Just Steel.

The horse most likely to run a new TOP is Catching Freedom. Unless something strange happens, i.e. a horse loves or hates the surfact, Mugata, Uncle Heavy are not quite good enough to win, Tuscan Gold and Imagination will need things to go right to win.

In the event the 3 Derby horses are leg weary from running back so soon, the race becomes wide open. This concludes the overview on this 8 horse field.** End of the edited portion from Thursday morning.

All the below information I posted earlier in this thread:
Hopefully, by tomorrow or Wednesday I will post their current patterns for those who are interested. For those unfamiliar with the Preakness, it is a 1 3/16th mile race, so 1/16th of a mile, or 110 yards shorter in distance than the Kentucky Derby. There is a 60% chance of rain in the forecast for Baltimore Saturday.

In the last 10 years, 8 of the 10 horses who WON the Kentucky Derby ran back in the Preakness two weeks later. The two which didn't run were Rich Strike and Maximum Security.

Below are Kentucky Derby Performance Figures each winner ran, and his Performance figure in the Preakness:

2023 Mage ran 0 in the Derby, and 3 in the Preakness. So, he went backwards 3 points; (OFF)
2022 Rich Strike ran 1 in the Derby and did not run in the Preakness;
2021 Medina Spirit ran 1 in Derby and 3 in Preakness. Went backwards 3 pts. (Was DQ'd in Derby); (OFF)
2020 Does not count since the Kentucky Derby was run in September due to the plandemic;
2019 Maximum Security ran 1 in the Deby and did not run in the Preakness;
2018 Justify ran -1 in the Derby and -0 in the Preakness. Went backward 1 point; (PAIR)
2017 Always Dreaming ran -1 in Derby and ran 8 in the Preakness. Went backward 9 points; (X)
2016 Nyquist ran 0 in Derby and 0 in Preakness. Ran the same Performance Figure in each race; (PAIR)
2015 American Pharoah ran -3 in the Derby and -0 in the Preakness. Went backwards 3 points; (OFF)
2014 California Chrome ran 0 in the Derby and -2 in the Preakness. Improved 2 points; (TOP)
2013 Orb ran -2 in the Derby and 4 in the Preakness. Went backwards 6 points. (X)

So, 8 Kentucky Derby winners ran in the Preakness with 1 horse (California Chrome) running a new TOP;
2 horses (Justify and Nyquist) PAIRED
3 horses (Mage, Medina Spirit, American Pharoah) ran OFF
2 horses (Always Dreaming and Orb) X'd.
 
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Post your tickets pre-race so we can piggy back if we want!
 
F* these people!

I post every pick prior to kickoff

They hate you cuz they ain’t you, Easy!
I know you post your selections before the kickoff, and I think the room appreciates it. When I was doing a weekly parlay for the room, I always included your best bet along with Scarletred and Tuco.

The Preakness, due to the much smaller field has far less possibilities of a nice score than the Derby. Unlike the Derby which typically has 6-8 real win contenders, this field probably has 3-4 at the most. The only horse in this field that didn't run in the Derby that would have been a threat to win is Muth, and he was ineligible due to Baffert being banned from the Kentucky Derby. So Baffert is bringing 2 fresh horses (Muth and Imagination) into this race to face 3 Derby horses (Mystik Dan, Catching Freedom, Just Steel) who just ran
1 1/4 mile 2 weeks ago.

The Derby takes many hours to handicap, and this race takes about an hour. I'm sure I will make some minor wagers on the race since I'm going to watch. Without having seen the PF numbers of the entire field the likelihood of a large mutuel is pretty thin.

Since I wagered $ 160.00 in the Kentucky Derby to net $ 3,114.00, I will probably only wager 50.00 or so, and unless something odd happens would not expect to make more than 300.00 or 400.00. In my world, if I'm not wagering enough to win at least 500.00 in a race, its nothing more than an interest bet.
 
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Any top; 20 jockey in the US wins this race aboard Forever Young. I said I loved the horse, and the jockey was, and did, do enough bouncing around in the saddle to get this horse beat. Looks like, can't confirm, Gafflione on the #2 horse actually put his hands on the # 11 jockey in the stretch. In all fairness, Sierra Leone should have come down.
I was correct. Gafflione was just fined $ 2,500.00 for the antics he pulled in deep stretch against the jockey on Forever Young. Without the interference, Forever Young was the winner.
 
Alright screw it…I know I’m gonna put a couple $$ on this race even though it sucks.

My ideas from the Derby horses(I’m generally an exacta and win/place guy):

1. Classic Freedom will not take $1 of my money. That was the perfect suck-up of all suck-ups ever in the Derby. He really did almost no running. Plus, Cox hates running horses back this soon.

2. Mystic Dan honestly isn’t that far off from Classic Freedom but he’s got a little bit of tactical speed. If he wins, I’ll break even at best.

3. Just Steel…they switched to Rosario for a reason. He’ll take him back to DFL and try to clunk him up for 3rd.
 
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Alright screw it…I know I’m gonna put a couple $$ on this race even though it sucks.

My ideas from the Derby horses(I’m generally an exacta and win/place guy):

1. Classic Freedom will not take $1 of my money. That was the perfect suck-up of all suck-ups ever in the Derby. He really did almost no running. Plus, Cox hates running horses back this soon.

2. Mystic Dan honestly isn’t that far off from Classic Freedom but he’s got a little bit of tactical speed. If he wins, I’ll break even at best.

3. Just Steel…they switched to Rosario for a reason. He’ll take him back to DFL and try to clunk him up for 3rd.
I love your first sentence, been there and done that. lol
 
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Alright screw it…I know I’m gonna put a couple $$ on this race even though it sucks.

My ideas from the Derby horses(I’m generally an exacta and win/place guy):

1. Classic Freedom will not take $1 of my money. That was the perfect suck-up of all suck-ups ever in the Derby. He really did almost no running. Plus, Cox hates running horses back this soon.

2. Mystic Dan honestly isn’t that far off from Classic Freedom but he’s got a little bit of tactical speed. If he wins, I’ll break even at best.

3. Just Steel…they switched to Rosario for a reason. He’ll take him back to DFL and try to clunk him up for 3rd.
Muth now confirmed as scratched after spiking a fever. Makes the race more interesting, as Muth was the horse to beat.
 
Alright screw it…I know I’m gonna put a couple $$ on this race even though it sucks.

My ideas from the Derby horses(I’m generally an exacta and win/place guy):

1. Classic Freedom will not take $1 of my money. That was the perfect suck-up of all suck-ups ever in the Derby. He really did almost no running. Plus, Cox hates running horses back this soon.

2. Mystic Dan honestly isn’t that far off from Classic Freedom but he’s got a little bit of tactical speed. If he wins, I’ll break even at best.

3. Just Steel…they switched to Rosario for a reason. He’ll take him back to DFL and try to clunk him up for 3rd.
Put a 10$ show bet on a horse just so you have one to cheer for😉
 
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D Wayne Effing Lukas…
Just took a look at the Acorn on Friday as well as the Met Mile and Belmont Stakes on Saturday. I'm just gonna include the horses that have a good pattern or looks to be a legitimate contender in any of these races.

ACORN STAKES: Just FYI (5/2) has a big chance, Leslie's Road (5/1) will be dangerous if she fires, My Mane Squeeze (12/1) can probably be in the exotics, Regulatory Risk (12/1) might pick up a check, Thorpedo Anna (8/5) has a 50/50 chance to bounce. Thorpedo Anna won and Leslie's Road ran 2nd. At this point, Thorpedo Anna (a 3 year old filly) would likely beat any 3 year old male.

MET MILE: Hoist The Gold (15/1) has a shot in the mud, National Treasure i(8/5) s a contender, White Abarrio (6/5) appears over the top, Post Time (7/2) has a big shot in here. EDITED: National Treasure won the race easily, Post Time was 2nd and Hoist The Gold ran 3rd. As I suspected, it appears White Abarrio is over the top.


BELMONT STAKES: Mystik Dan (5/1) and Seize the Grey (8/1) are running their 3rd race in 5 weeks and should not be expected to improve, The Wine Steward (15/1) is a borderline contender, Resilience (10/1) has a chance to pick up a check, Honor Marie (12/1) is a slow developing and may be in the exotics, Antiquarian (12/1) has a big shot, Mindframe (7/2) is lightly raced and if he repeats his debut he can win, but not for me at a short price, Sierra Leone (9/5) is the horse to beat and should be a strong favorite. EDITED AFTER THE RACE: Dornoch won the race at 17/1 and I had zero tickets with him on it. Mindframe ran a very strong second and Sierra Leone ran 3rd.
Interesting non-racing point, the owner of Dornoch is Jayson Werth who played 18 years in the bigs and was also my son's catcher in the World Championship games in Brazil a long time ago.


As regular horseplayers some of us know this in not a true Belmont Stakes. Due to Belmont being under repairs, this race will be run over the Derby distance of 1 1/4 mile, rather than the normal 1 1/2 mile Belmont distance, so this race will include an asterisk in any future Belmont's.

In my opinion, the race boils down to Sierra Leone, Mindframe and Antiquarian. Sierra Leone is a known quality horse, and the move from Gafflione to Prat is a HUGE upgrade. Mindframe is somewhat unknown, but dangerous, and Antiquarian is a horse that fits. The others could surprise, but they would have to all run new tops and some are just not contenders. (famous last words).

Here are the patterns for each horse:
Antiquarian PPT
Sierra Leone PTP
Mindframe, has no pattern since only 2 races, but has run a 0 then a 4
Mystick Dan OOO
Resilience PTP
Seize The Grey PTT
The Wine Steward TPT
Honor Marie XPO
Dornoch PPX.

Horses with a PPT, PTP, PTT, tend to run 1st or 2nd in the Belmont
Horses who ran an OFF in their last race, tend to hit the board
Horses with an X tend to run 4th depending how long its been since they X'ed.

Maybe tomorrow I'll include some wagering strategies just for the fun of it. unless you're looking at a low paying exacta or trifecta you'll have to separate Sierra Leone and Mindframe. Those horses running 1-2 guarantee a fairly low payoff.

I'm more inclined to go something like Sierra Leone/Antiquarian/Mindframe and a couple others in the trifecta to try to generate a decent payoff. Or Antiquarian/Sierra Leone, Mindframe and the other contenders which is a paltry 7.00 wager. Even something like Sierra Leone/Antiquarian, Resilience, The Wine Steward/with 4 others is only 4.50.

Nothing says you can't find a combination you like and hit the Repeat Button a few times.

The biggest mystery is the KNOWN quality horse with the huge jockey upgrade in Sierra Leone, and the unknown quality of Mindframe and how good he may actually be. But with 5 weeks off since the Derby, its almost a certainty that Sierra Leone runs well. Of course, Saratoga is well known as the "graveyard of champions." EDITED 2 hours before the race. It appears the track is favoring the early speed and could very well impact the favorite Sierra Leone's best shot today.
It may well benefit a horse like either Seize The Grey, Mindframe or Resilience.
 
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Just took a look at the Acorn on Friday as well as the Met Mile and Belmont Stakes on Saturday. I'm just gonna include the horses that have a good pattern or looks to be a legitimate contender in any of these races.

ACORN STAKES: Just FYI (5/2) has a big chance, Leslie's Road (5/1) will be dangerous if she fires, My Mane Squeeze (12/1) can probably be in the exotics, Regulatory Risk (12/1) might pick up a check, Thorpedo Anna (8/5) has a 50/50 chance to bounce.

MET MILE: Hoist The Gold (15/1) has a shot in the mud, National Treasure i(8/5) s a contender, White Abarrio (6/5) appears over the top, Post Time (7/2) has a big shot in here.
(7/2)

BELMONT STAKES: Mystik Dan (5/1) and Seize the Grey (8/1) are running their 3rd race in 5 weeks and should not be expected to improve, The Wine Steward (15/1) is a borderline contender, Resilience (10/1) has a chance to pick up a check, Honor Marie (12/1) is a slow developing and may be in the exotics, Antiquarian (12/1) has a big shot, Mindframe (7/2) is lightly raced and if he repeats his debut he can win, but not for me at a short price, Sierra Leone (9/5) is the horse to beat and should be a strong favorite.

As regular horseplayers some of us know this in not a true Belmont Stakes. Due to Belmont being under repairs, this race will be run over the Derby distance of 1 1/4 mile, rather than the normal 1 1/2 mile Belmont distance, so this race will include an asterisk in any future Belmont's.

In my opinion, the race boils down to Sierra Leone, Mindframe and Antiquarian. Sierra Leone is a known quality horse, and the move from Gafflione to Prat is a HUGE upgrade. Mindframe is somewhat unknown, but dangerous, and Antiquarian is a horse that fits. The others could surprise, but they would have to all run new tops and some are just not contenders. (famous last words).

Here are the patterns for each horse:
Antiquarian PPT
Sierra Leone PTP
Mindframe, has no pattern since only 2 races, but has run a 0 then a 4
Mystick Dan OOO
Resilience PTP
Seize The Grey PTT
The Wine Steward TPT
Honor Marie XPO
Dornoch PPX.

Horses with a PPT, PTP, PTT, tend to run 1st or 2nd in the Belmont
Horses who ran an OFF in their last race, tend to hit the board
Horses with an X tend to run 4th depending how long its been since they X'ed.

Maybe tomorrow I'll include some wagering strategies just for the fun of it. unless you're looking at a low paying exacta or trifecta you'll have to separate Sierra Leone and Mindframe. Those horses running 1-2 guarantee a fairly low payoff.

I'm more inclined to go something like Sierra Leone/Antiquarian/Mindframe and a couple others in the trifecta to try to generate a decent payoff. Or Antiquarian/Sierra Leone, Mindframe and the other contenders which is a paltry 7.00 wager. Even something like Sierra Leone/Antiquarian, Resilience, The Wine Steward/with 4 others is only 4.50.

Nothing says you can't find a combination you like and hit the Repeat Button a few times.

The biggest mystery is the KNOWN quality horse with the huge jockey upgrade in Sierra Leone, and the unknown quality of Mindframe and how good he may actually be. But with 5 weeks off since the Derby, its almost a certainty that Sierra Leone runs well. Of course, Saratoga is well known as the "graveyard of champions."
I LOVED White Abarrio in last year’s Met Mile and hammered him. He looked loaded for much of the race but just couldn’t get it done…horrendous ride.
 
I LOVED White Abarrio in last year’s Met Mile and hammered him. He looked loaded for much of the race but just couldn’t get it done…horrendous ride.
I loved him and Derma Sotogake in the BC Classic last year. But Abarrio hasn't been the same since, and that's even with the magic of Richard Dutrow. The introduction of a new chemical can change things as we both know.
 
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Let’s be honest though…

Belmont day for bettors isn’t about the Belmont Stakes.

So many other BEAUTIFUL other betting races with so many better horses.
 
Let’s be honest though…

Belmont day for bettors isn’t about the Belmont Stakes.

So many other BEAUTIFUL other betting races with so many better horses.
Rain forecast for Saratoga:
Rain most of the day Thursday totalling 1";
Light rain Friday totalling 1/4";
Light rain Saturday morning totalling 1/10".

A couple guys you don't want to sleep on Friday/Saturday are Fernando Abreu in turf sprints, and Gary Contessa or Mark Hennig in 7F dirt sprints. .
 
Rain forecast for Saratoga:
Rain most of the day Thursday totalling 1";
Light rain Friday totalling 1/4";
Light rain Saturday morning totalling 1/10".

A couple guys you don't want to sleep on Friday/Saturday are Fernando Abreu in turf sprints, and Gary Contessa or Mark Hennig in 7F dirt sprints. .
I always sleep on Hennig. Period, end of story.
 
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Great day of late races today!!!
It was just pouring there about 5 minutes ago, i.e. 3:40 our time.

By the way, an unknown but high percentage trainer named Mertkan Kartamaci has his horses running their eyeballs out so far, totally outmatched, but all finding the board. Ran 3rd with a totally over matched horse at 23/1, then I just caught his horse with Flavien Prat aboard at 40/1 to run 2nd to a heavy chalk. Has another one later, in that Grade 1 turf race that I just can't play.
Yet, this overmatched horse just ran 4th and was only beaten 1/2 length at 26/1.
 
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#7 Prince of Monaco in the 8th(7-2 ML) and #6 Al Riffa in the 11th(6-1 ML) will make or break my day today.

Pretty sure POM will get bet down a bunch, but I need him for the win and on top of exotics.

If Riffa can finish in the top two without any major bombers in the exacta, I’ll get paid well.

I wheeled Antiquarian in the Belmont, but it’s honestly an action bet.

Good luck to all!
 
#7 Prince of Monaco in the 8th(7-2 ML) and #6 Al Riffa in the 11th(6-1 ML) will make or break my day today.

Pretty sure POM will get bet down a bunch, but I need him for the win and on top of exotics.

If Riffa can finish in the top two without any major bombers in the exacta, I’ll get paid well.

I wheeled Antiquarian in the Belmont, but it’s honestly an action bet.

Good luck to all!
Go get 'em Pelini!!
 
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#7 Prince of Monaco in the 8th(7-2 ML) and #6 Al Riffa in the 11th(6-1 ML) will make or break my day today.

Pretty sure POM will get bet down a bunch, but I need him for the win and on top of exotics.

If Riffa can finish in the top two without any major bombers in the exacta, I’ll get paid well.

I wheeled Antiquarian in the Belmont, but it’s honestly an action bet.

Good luck to all!
Nations Pride is probably gonna run pretty good in the 11th with Al Riffa, who has been knocking heads with some helluva good ones in Europe.

I think I played only $ 60.00 in the Belmont, spread out on top among Sierra Leone, Antiquarian, Resilience and a bit with Mindframe. As I said, I split SL and Mind on every ticket. If I can grab a couple hundred it'll be fine with me. Gonna try to do some damage in the POM race.
 
What a ride by Ortiz in the Woody Stephens.

JFC that dude is locked in.
He's so good, he's almost as good as Prat. I really needed Contessa's horse to get by your 1 horse, lol. That would have made for a salty tri and I also had the 10 key boxed on top of the 1,3,6,7 in another tri.
I knew Danno was gonna be tough after just getting nipped by Forever Young at a flat mile in Dubai.

Here's to hoping Al Riffa runs his eyeballs out Pelini.
I know horses aren't for everyone, but how much effing fun is this game?
 
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He's so good, he's almost as good as Prat. I really needed Contessa's horse to get by your 1 horse, lol. That would have made for a salty tri and I also had the 10 key boxed on top of the 1,3,6,7 in another tri.
I knew Danno was gonna be tough after just getting nipped by Forever Young at a flat mile in Dubai.

Here's to hoping Al Riffa runs his eyeballs out Pelini.
I know horses aren't for everyone, but how much effing fun is this game?
I’m always kinda amazed when I hear from some of the “best” commentators about how jockeys don’t make a difference. Or at least they’ll make the excuse on TV that there’s no difference within the top 10-12 on these days so they don’t have to actually question a ride and/or pick a horse to win/lose because of a rider.

I think there’s a large cutoff after the first 2(irad and Flavian), though I would still throw Johnny V in there on big days.
 
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