On a Scale of 1 to 10...How Excited Are You About the Hire?
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I think you have our roles reversed here
the onus is on the accuser, not the defendant
anyone stating he is a home run, sure thing, etc., is doing so with many a caveat in tow for a reason
Yes Trev handled this hire remarkably. The Trev bashers should man up and eat some crow on this one.
that's more than 30%
and spurrier won 1 division title in his 10.5 years in college following his NFL stint - not exactly winning big
why the arbitrary 30% cutoff?
There are plenty of coaches that fail in the NFL. It's one big crapshoot and hardly means anything.
Rhule won less than 30% in his nfl tenure
would you prefer the cutoff be his actual 27% (rounded up)?
I am trying desperately to help any of these Rhule backers to find just one single instance of a coach doing what they're sure he will do here (win big)
I'm still waiting
if we win big, this Rhule will have to be the exception
So you chose 30% in order to make your argument hold water
Saban’s nfl peers gave same eye roll
Steve Spurrier wasn't an NFL success either. Did pretty good in CFB. Urban Meyer also.
urban has yet to return to coaching, so that's moot
petrino won 1 division title at louisville and 1 conference title in FBS following his NFL tenure (4 schools, 14 years)
so urban just became a terrible coach and is unemployable now.
or maybe college coaches rarely do well as NFL coaches
urban is a terrible person who is unemployable. what a shame
there are many college coaches who do well in the NFL
there are more college coaches who do not do well in the NFL
there are ZERO college coaches who fail in the NFL and win big at their next stop back in college
Saban won 47% of his games and quit - he did not get fired. if you want to call him a failure and compare Rhule to Saban, knock yourself out
He doesn't count anything that happened before someone took an NFL gig.
florida was before the NFL failure - big winner!
south carolina was after (like Rhule here) - not so much!
Pete Carroll was barely a .500 coach when he left NE for USC. It’s as if there is no correlation between NFL success and CFB success.
Do you count the first couple years at dumpsters Temple & Baylor?
2013: Lost #15 UCF & #18 Louisville
2014: No opponent finished ranked
2015: Lost to #8 Notre Dame & #18 Houston
2016: Lost to #5 Penn St.
Beat #25 Navy
2017: Lost to #2 Oklahoma, #15 TCU & #19 Oklahoma St.
2018: Lost to #4 Oklahoma, #15 Texas & #24 Iowa St.
2019: Lost to #4 Oklahoma (twice) & #5 Georgia.
Beat #25 Oklahoma St
okay. that's fine.
there's the only example of doing what we all hope Rhule will do here.
You are reading waay too much into this. Just let it play out. 8 to 10 games a year and winning the West is very attainable. Going to Indy and maybe winning a few once in a while, winning some bowls is the goal for now. Build off gradual success and start rebuilding the culture.
Where is the correlation? I see a lot of good college coaches that were not successful in the NFL. Failing in the NFL in no way indicates a coach will fail in college. I put much more stock in actually having previous success at the collegiate level.
people don't want facts now?
I'm simply pointing out comparisons (of which there are few)
this is a typical exercise when judging how to gauge expectations moving forward
ever find it weird that all these former college winners turned spectacularly failed NFL guys get recycled to programs like south carolina, arkansas, louisville, etc., and rarely if ever a blue blood?
yea, me neither
You are desperately grasping at straws trying to find some randomly specific criteria, all why stating you wanted a position coach with zero HC experience hired.
High floor, low ceiling in my opinion. Basically I think we just hired Kirk Ferentz.
Worst case, we will be in a position to hire a monster in 5 years with a solid squad.
I'm fine with that after the last 20 years. And if I'm wrong, I think the odds are that I'm wrong to the upside rather than the downside. That's solid but unspectacular which is probably what we needed no matter the bellyaching that we didn't hire Jesus --- or whomever our coaching savior dujour would be in this situation anyway.
Worst case, we will be in a position to hire a monster in 5 years with a solid squad.
I'm fine with that after the last 20 years. And if I'm wrong, I think the odds are that I'm wrong to the upside rather than the downside. That's solid but unspectacular which is probably what we needed no matter the bellyaching that we didn't hire Jesus --- or whomever our coaching savior dujour would be in this situation anyway.
comparing coaches with similar backgrounds is desperately grasping at straws?
should I instead just say "wow he almost won something important at Baylor once!" and pencil us in for a B1G title?
Well. It's done. He's our next Head Coach. You can get on board or just bitch and moan for 8 years. I myself will wait and see how it plays out before judging what he has or hasn't done. Results matter to me. GBR!!
You missed a few games in your original post then. Record vs ranked opponents was incorrect.
I’ve never called him a “sure thing” or a home run. He’s the most qualified guy we could get. He looks like a good fit to me and maybe our best option. The fact that Mickey was a 10 for you is all anybody needs to know.😉
Personally I might have gone young and cheap to hire Vigen. You wanted to go old and cheap with Mickey.
Or you could just stop trashing the guy for no reason and stop changing your little narrative every time it’s proven incorrect. All while stating you wanted a position coach with no experience hired.
