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Note to Fred Hoiberg

You're criminally misrepresenting Husker fans of the Bo Pelini era. Bo Pelini was fired because he repeatedly hit the same wall in big games, along with him being a complete douchebag benefited by Husker Nation (he's had an embarrassing career after us). We were thrilled when Bo got to 9 or 10 wins at first, because, and get this, we had a Callahan era that, wait for it... lowered expectations. Bo then never did anything else, showed undeniable disdain and underperformance in recruiting, and treated fans like crap.

We didn't fire him for the season we hope Matt Rhule has next year. We fired him for having the same season, every year, (in a crap B12 North) and showing the same coaching mistakes. So yes, we'd be thrilled with 9-3 next year. And if Matt started dogging fans, failing at recruiting, stubbornly staying in 2-high, and could never win a big game, etc, we'd probably fire him.

Or maybe you'd prefer to hear...I still have expectations, as the best husker fan on the board, that we win at least 1 natty every year. I have the highest of highest expectations. Frankly, I'm concerned you're romanticizing Bo or even Tom. Tom should've been dropped after losing in '83. I'm still on the fence about Bob. That's how high my expectations are.

Edit: I need a shower, can't believe we still have to talk about 'lowered expectations' on a message board in 2025. But I can't help myself.
We fired Palini because Harvey Perlman couldn’t stand him and told the AD to fire him. Pelini was an asshole but he also won nine or 10 games every season. Talent levels did slip under Bo, but he did recruit football players. Talent levels fell off a cliff during the tenure of his successor and didn’t improve much during Frost’s tenure, although all of those teams had sufficient talent to make a bowl game. They just weren’t good enough at being football players and didn’t receive solid coaching.
 
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Nope. I am allowing for it.

Your last sentence highlights my point - we have come to expect losing so much so that a fireable offense is now celebrated
Did fans think a 9-3 record was a fireable offense? Specifically in regards to Pelini?
 
We fired Palini because Harvey Perlman couldn’t stand him and told the AD to fire him. Pelini was an asshole but he also won nine or 10 games every season. Talent levels did slip under Bo, but he did recruit football players. Talent levels fell off a cliff during the tenure of his successor and didn’t improve much during Frost’s tenure, although all of those teams had sufficient talent to make a bowl game. They just weren’t good enough at being football players and didn’t receive solid coaching.
Huh?

Harvey couldn’t stand him because… as I said originally and paraphrased again, and am now repeating myself a third time… he was huge douchebag who dogged fans, underperformed via plateaued progress, and showed little interest in self improvement, whether that be on the field coaching adjustments or putting in reasonable effort on the recruiting trail. As I said originally, his embarrassing, embarrassing (twice so you hear it) career after us speaks for itself.

He did win 9 or 10 games, I agree. Talent levels fell off with Mike Riley, I agree.

What are we talking about here guys? This place is wild, people keep replying to me thinking they disagree but essentially say the same thing. Or maybe say what mean? Because other than you possibly trying to blame Harvey for Bo being a huge douchebag, or you being a Bo apologist in 2025 (ha really??), I think I agree with what you said.
 
Huh?

Harvey couldn’t stand him because… as I said originally and paraphrased again, and am now repeating myself a third time… he was huge douchebag who dogged fans, underperformed via plateaued progress, and showed little interest in self improvement, whether that be on the field coaching adjustments or putting in reasonable effort on the recruiting trail. As I said originally, his embarrassing, embarrassing (twice so you hear it) career after us speaks for itself.

He did win 9 or 10 games, I agree. Talent levels fell off with Mike Riley, I agree.

What are we talking about here guys? This place is wild, people keep replying to me thinking they disagree but essentially say the same thing. Or maybe say what mean? Because other than you possibly trying to blame Harvey for Bo being a huge douchebag, or you being a Bo apologist in 2025 (ha really??), I think I agree with what you said.
Bo deserved to be fired. But Harvey Perlman is a POS and had no clue on how to run anything. Look who Harvey hired . Steve P and Shawn eichorst. He offered Shawn a 1 million dollar contract without talking to anyone at Miami about him . He just took the word of Barry Alverez .
 
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Glad to see my note to Fred turned into a Bo Pelini thread.

@TarheelHuskerFan I don't think we are taking many more guys. This is in response to your comment about we are grabbing more kids. I am thinking we only take one more unless more on the current roster go into the portal

Jacobsen
Hoiberg
Blue
Lawrence
Mast
Bolis
Jarusevicius
Berke
Sandfort
Grace III
Cooper
Essegian
Frager
Rhymes

That is 14... we can have 15

If I could choose we would pick up 4 more and let Berke, Grace III and Bolis go. Not sure I see Frager ever seeing meaningful minutes either
 
Glad to see my note to Fred turned into a Bo Pelini thread.

@TarheelHuskerFan I don't think we are taking many more guys. This is in response to your comment about we are grabbing more kids. I am thinking we only take one more unless more on the current roster go into the portal

Jacobsen
Hoiberg
Blue
Lawrence
Mast
Bolis
Jarusevicius
Berke
Sandfort
Grace III
Cooper
Essegian
Frager
Rhymes

That is 14... we can have 15

If I could choose we would pick up 4 more and let Berke, Grace III and Bolis go. Not sure I see Frager ever seeing meaningful minutes either
Grace took part in Senior Day, so not sure if he’s coming back or not. Good student who seems on track to graduate, so he might have decided to move on.
 
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Glad to see my note to Fred turned into a Bo Pelini thread.

@TarheelHuskerFan I don't think we are taking many more guys. This is in response to your comment about we are grabbing more kids. I am thinking we only take one more unless more on the current roster go into the portal

Jacobsen
Hoiberg
Blue
Lawrence
Mast
Bolis
Jarusevicius
Berke
Sandfort
Grace III
Cooper
Essegian
Frager
Rhymes

That is 14... we can have 15

If I could choose we would pick up 4 more and let Berke, Grace III and Bolis go. Not sure I see Frager ever seeing meaningful minutes either
That roster doesn’t give me much confidence in even being a bubble team. Hopefully they surprise us.
 
That roster doesn’t give me much confidence in even being a bubble team. Hopefully they surprise us.
Probably but 6 -7 years from now when someone else is coaching Duke will win the Crowm tournament and Fred will be watching from some resort bar . He will tell everyone I coached the first crown champion in 2025.
 
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