7 or 8. We need a program builder and Rhule fits the bill. Ground rhule double of a hire that hopefully turns into a home run.
On a Scale of 1 to 10...How Excited Are You About the Hire?
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I hear this all the time, the what "if" game, should of could of. Let's look at reality, Frost never won more than 4 games a year.
As for Chins, he was being hailed by many on here as being the replacement for Frost. Not long after he was canned.
The fact Riley won 8 does say something though. It says that the team Frost inherited wasn't as bad as many thought and it could be done here. Never confuse perception with reality.
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I usually enjoy @king_kong_ posts and takes. While you can look at a whole picture and draw conclusions sometimes it is best to look at year by year results.
At Temple his winning pct increased each year. Same at Baylor. Year over year his teams were better.
If a CEO took over a company and increased profits margin from 20% to 80% over 4 years then took over another company and did the same thing, that would dude or girl would be a highly sought after executive. It wouldn’t matter if either of those companies outperformed all other top companies. That is a very simplistic view of what the CEO accomplished.
If Nebraska improves at the rate that Temple and Baylor improved under Rhule and in 3 years is winning 10 games and competing for league titles, I would view this as a success. If he is middling with Purdue and Minnesota not so much.
At Temple his winning pct increased each year. Same at Baylor. Year over year his teams were better.
If a CEO took over a company and increased profits margin from 20% to 80% over 4 years then took over another company and did the same thing, that would dude or girl would be a highly sought after executive. It wouldn’t matter if either of those companies outperformed all other top companies. That is a very simplistic view of what the CEO accomplished.
If Nebraska improves at the rate that Temple and Baylor improved under Rhule and in 3 years is winning 10 games and competing for league titles, I would view this as a success. If he is middling with Purdue and Minnesota not so much.
Just because you’re a former player doesn’t mean you’re smart
Honestly Ted isn't my name it's just a bit of an inside joke with a friend. I just thought the username sounded good LOL
Man have we proven that.
This is a perfect analogy for how I feel about the hire from strictly an “excitement” standpoint
A ground rule double is good, sure, but it’s a hell of a lot more exciting when the ball is in play and the runner might make the turn and dig for 3
Care to compare with college coaches that go from one college to another who also suck (your definition- is not winning a Conf championship)?
Excitement 10
Belief that it works. 6.75
Belief that it gets better. 8.75
Belief that it works. 6.75
Belief that it gets better. 8.75
Comparing Rutgers in the Big East to Rutgers in the BIG for Schiano with Rhule at Temple in the Big East and Nebraska in the BIG is downright stupid...
Perhaps not. I was just looking at the whole field with that comment.
I think Rhule is a fantastic hire.
I think in the years when NU has an Iowa schedule, you will see NU, now, finish in the top 12 and make the playoffs...
In years when NU has OSU, Michigan, USC, stuff like that, I think they will be a solid 9 win team.
In years when NU has OSU, Michigan, USC, stuff like that, I think they will be a solid 9 win team.
I like the idea of keeping Mickey, but realistically he is ready to be a coordinator and I can’t see Rhule not bringing in a coordinator of his choosing.
Pretty sure there are way too many reading too much into what @king_kong_ is saying. I am pretty sure he is only saying what I am.....I rated the hire as a 5 on the excitement scale. Does that mean that I am pissed that he is the hire and won't support him? No way. Of course I will. I am just more thinking it's time for someone to prove it.
why? isn't rutgers the state school for a top 10 population state?
some of our best players in history are from NJ, probably mere hours from wherever rutgers is located & rutgers has been to a bowl more recently than we have as a b1g program
Because Rutgers is a nothing program that GS won at when they were in the Big East and it will be much harder to duplicate that in the BIG. MR took a dumpster fire and won in the Big East, but he is now coaching a blueblood. Thats not comparable.
what's the difference between winning at a "nothing program" and winning at a "dumpster fire" in the exact same conference (well, not exact same. Big East was 100x better during the bulk of Schiano's tenure before Rhule got there, but I'm sure you factored that in)?
is it easier to duplicate success at one versus the other?
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AYFKM? Your premise is that since GS hasn't duplicated his success that neither will Rhule. Nebraska and Temple are completely different programs, not even in the same stratosphere....
you are getting very defensive
I'm only asking a question & trying to find out more about our new coach
your premise is that coaching a blue blood means more success than coaching a nothing program?
because that has been about the exact opposite of reality in many places, Nebraska obviously included
2nd choice was Hugh Freeze who turned Trev down. Don't blame him with Auburn calling
we will be going to a bowl next year after beating iowa in lincoln
Two months of waiting and we have Matt Rhule? Clowns and uneducated homers will learn the hard way I guess. I promise you Trev will in 4 years. What a homerun hire this is. Hold on to this post. In 3-5 years you can tell your grandkids about what a shitty hire this is. Bet me.
I gave Frost a 5 at his hiring. He was average at best as an OC at Oregon, he always folded in the big games. He caught lightening in a bottle at UCF and used the players left by O'leary to run the table with. Every coach since Frost has had great success there. Frost should keep the money and ride into the sunset, he will never succeed at a major program.
I'm sorry, I just can't say anymore. I'd like to give you more info. but I cannot out my source
I think both Meyer and sanders were grand slam win big in year 1 coaches. Anybody else is a 2-3 year project.
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