Coaching shakeup

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  1. v1nufan

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    I’m curious what anyone’s “long term” definition is? With RARE exceptions, college football today just doesn’t seem to be structured to see most assistants stay longer than 6-7 years at any one school.
    I know hiring BB is unlikely, but not sure him leaving after 3-4 years would not be outweighed with his presence working with Chins during that time.
     
  2. newAD

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    I was always disappointed in his lack of defensive playing time, but he lasted in the league a long time mostly playing special teams IIRC. So as far as that aspect of the game he has walked the walk.
     
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  3. headcard

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    Polk? Don’t remeber May playing time concerns with him and he was also much more than simple a special teams player in the NFL.

    Polk was a two time All-Big 12 player and an All-American in 2000. He was also the starting MLB for the Chargers for years.
     
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  4. hedonistimpulse

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    His presence working with Frost would be huge, much less Chinander, because Bielema would be the best game manager on the staff from day one, but there's no chance he's spending 3-4 years as the fourth guy on the totem pole on any team in the country.

    He's got nearly 100 Power 5 wins and three B1G conference titles, he may make a pit stop somewhere, but it's not for 3-4 years as a LB/Special Teams coach and certainly not at Nebraska.

    And to answer your question - long-term is hard to define because you don't want staff stagnation either, but anyone who would be hired with the assumption that he will likely walk away before his first recruiting class graduates is not long-term.
     
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  5. inWV

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    Missed an obvious choice - Mason Wald!
     
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  6. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
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    Walk on program thing is meant to find diamonds in the rough..1 or 2 guys to play...not 9 walk ons running down on a kickoff or punt. Transfer portal makes us lose walk ons who contribute. Its different in 2020. 1/3 of our scholarships are freshman who were redshirting..frost is thinking long term. Patience
     
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    Im a Husker fan and I approve this message.
     
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    I was talking about the NFL, not his college time. Starting MLB for the Chargers for years? Uh.....no. How about six games.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/carlospolk/2504597/profile
     
  10. oldjar07

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    Special teams were a reflection of our whole team, not just the walk ons fault. Undisciplined, dumb decisions, bad effort, inability to tackle. It wasn't just walk ons or depth that had these issues, our starting scholarship players had the same problems.
     
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    Could be a mistake believing Frost would be the one to find a defensive coach.

    Chin was the one to zero in on Tuioti and my guess is Frost would want his coordinators to take the lead in prioritizing potential coaches and Frost would make the final decision.
     
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    This. Blaming it on no talent and redshirting everyone is a cop out. That doesn't explain the poor angles, not having a second level and just plain old poor execution.
     
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  13. headcard

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    It was really the kicking game, more than anything. We couldn’t make FG’s for most of the season because our kickers where injured and we couldn’t cover kickoffs because we kicked low line drives to the 10 yard line. There is a reason we had to resort to pooch kicks every time, like an 8-man HS team.
     
  14. phoenix4nu

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    Was it ever explained why they kicked it long in the Iowa game after pooch kicking it several times earlier? It resulted in a 95 yard touchdown return.
     
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    Define long? Long to me is kicking it so far away that the kick returner doesn’t even consider returning it. I haven’t seen a Husker kicker have this type of strength since Henry/Adi/Maher.
     
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  16. headcard

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    Didn’t Frost say something like that was DeWitt’s call and he thought they could catch them off guard? Probably all the answer we will ever get. Man did we take good kicking for granted for a long time.
     
  17. NorthwoodHusker

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    Hard to get consistency when the depth of the ball is varying all over.
    If anyone remembers, several coaches said, we need LB body types for our STs.
    Now, I'm pretty sure, up until this class, our LB depth pretty much stunk it up.
     
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    oldjar07 First Team All-Big Ten
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    The kick was fine. Cam Taylor gave up his lane and it allowed the returner to get to the outside.
     
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    Special Teams coach is a bit of a misnomer. One guy is the coordinator and if you don't have all of the coaches involved it's like herding cats.
     
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    But it wasn't a pooch kick like the previous kicks. I just wondered if there was an explanation of why they didn't pooch kick it that time.
     
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    Also playing freshman that you plan to redshirt after four games does not help the continuity four the special teams. Lots of missed angles and assignments because if that.
     
  22. cubsker

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    Yeah, I dont think that was a great idea. Need continuity there.
     
  23. headcard

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    Taylor did give up contain, but that was also the definition of a returnable kick. One of those you say of crap before the guy even fields it.
     
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    He said he didn’t know why we kicked that long, implying it wasn’t the call. At the time I did not get the impression he was calling Dewitt out but Picketing (if anyone).
     
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    Well, it's definitely an upgrade. Problem is, we don't have any openings, let alone a DC opening. If my opinion mattered at all, I would take BB and kick EC to the curb. BB may only be around for a year or two, but I don't care. Things would improve on the defense.
     
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    We need Papuchis.
     
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    Jim Rose said this morning don't expect this to be the only change before spring ball. Rose not always that accurate. Depends on where he's getting his info
     
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    alot of smoke that there will be another staff change coming soon.
     
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  31. JaySker402

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    Speculation that there will be an OC/WR opening soon. This is where Helfrich would come in.
     
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    I would be fine with a Colman or Polk.
     
  34. WHCSC

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    Just get the best darn person(s) for the job whether they are a former Husker or not. It's not a prerequisite.
     
  35. Crazyhole

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    I've heard speculation that TW was going to move on next year.
     
  36. oldjar07

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    Agreed, they don't have to have Husker ties, just get the best coach possible. That being said, I think Mike Ekeler was an underrated coach while he was here and he's worked at programs with good defenses everywhere he's been. He'd probably be near the top of my list for that position.
     
  37. Crazyhole

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    Agreed. Ekeler brought excitement and performance in his short stay here. To me, he brings more than just a history with the program.
     
  38. mrruffin10

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    The best hire by far is Tosh Lupoi! His recruiting record is impeccable. If we add a west coast recruiter and double down on poly connection, we will have a top 10 class next year! We also needs a fresh outside body. We also got a complete buddy system going..we need somebody to shake up things. Lupoi hires says, lets get the job done! Puts everyone on notice. co- def cordinator title as well!
     
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  39. oldjar07

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    Absolutely, he was a long-time defensive assistant at Alabama. Those are the types of coaches we should be bringing in. Not just a guy who has Nebraska ties or a defensive coach from Cal.
     
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    At least one of those rumors about him leaving was started by other schools recruiting against us for WRs. He has apparently been under consideration in the past for head coaching jobs so that isn't impossible. Frost and Walters have both recently said that he (Walters) expects to be at Nebraska for the next several years at least.
     

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