Can Nelson play end in a 3-3-5?
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I would say put on 15 pounds and make him an end. I don't think he can handle the pass coverage he would have to play as an OLB.
What is he 260 265? I think hes better suited for DE with a little more weight.
Just because a coach ran a 3-3-5 before he came to Nebraska doesn't mean it will be ran exclusively at Nebraska. I think people should try and remember we had a previous coach who tried to do something that wouldn't work in the BIG and he failed miserably.
We'll find out soon enough what the offensive and defensive schemes will be soon enough in 2023. Rhule is not the fool some try and make him out to be.
We'll find out soon enough what the offensive and defensive schemes will be soon enough in 2023. Rhule is not the fool some try and make him out to be.
Hiring Chip Kelly to run something other than his spread is a recipe for failure. White has run nothing but 3-3-5 his whole coaching career. Why do want to hire someone to do something he has never done. There are plenty of other DCs that run a 4-3 or 3-4 that would have taken the job.
Maybe the big ten will have to adjust to us?
Dunno, waiting to hear what the other Recruitinganalysts have to say first. Especially the universal one
They better get us while they can.
Nelson was dropping back into coverage this year from his DE, similar to what Nebraska of old used to do. He didn't look especially comfortable doing it and his lateral quickness is not his strength.
Maybe you should STFU.
Not about what is working. That isn’t the point. If you didn’t want to run a base 3-3-5 don’t hire a 3-3-5 coach. All that does is make the transition slower. Now you have to teach the DC the defense you want to run before the DC can install the defense.
Again we'll see what Rhule wants and he does have the final say. I'm not saying Nebraska won't run the 3-3-5, all I'm saying is it most likely won't be run exclusively like I said in my original post.
The one constant I hear when people describe it is that it’s very adaptable. I take that to mean it’s adaptable to not only the offenses it faces but also the talent available. I’ve heard one podcast say how normally one of the OLBs is a bigger pash rusher who can move from side to side and at times drop in coverage. That might work for Nelson. It’s going to be fun to watch how this thing is deployed. If had to bet money though I think he’ll add some weight and play DE.
My only concern is some of the top heavy running teams in the conference (west).. With USC and UCLA coming into the conference in 2 years this makes perfect sense..
I think people confuse formations with personnel.
It's like when Pete Carril used to coach Princeton basketball before the shot clock. Run those cutters, run those cutters again, and run that cutter for a backdoor layup.
Used to drive teams crazy, but man, was it effective and Carril wasn't gonna change. They beat teams they had no business beating.
You wouldn't have hired Carril to come in and install a run and gun offense.
Man, just don't understand all this angst. Most of us couldn't spell 3-3-5 a week ago and now everyone is an expert It is all about the players they have or are going for and the best way to utilize them.
It is all about the players they have or are going for and the best way to utilize them.
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Possibly bulking up and converting Buddha Wright, Singleton or Farmer to LB would be beneficial. Those are big hybrids that would add more speed on the field. Nelson needs his hand in the dirt, I don't want to see him in space.
What % of time will the 3-3-5 in the Syracuse be the base that they line up in?
How often will the slide into other looks? Based on NU personnel? Based on the opponent?
Really want to see the spring game and and hear the coach discuss and explore how he wants to implement it here. Hear how the players learning it are processing it and absorbing it.
A 3-3-5 looks to be able to have more layers of adjustments and flexibility to it. The install process will be key, hope the players will really find ways to dig and ask questions to speed up the learning curve.
How often will the slide into other looks? Based on NU personnel? Based on the opponent?
Really want to see the spring game and and hear the coach discuss and explore how he wants to implement it here. Hear how the players learning it are processing it and absorbing it.
A 3-3-5 looks to be able to have more layers of adjustments and flexibility to it. The install process will be key, hope the players will really find ways to dig and ask questions to speed up the learning curve.
The 3-3-5 will do well against Colorado’s offense. Should limit Shadeur and take away some of their playmakers. It will be interesting to see how Deion adjusts at halftime.Man, just don't understand all this angst. Most of us couldn't spell 3-3-5 a week ago and now everyone is an expert
@Tuco Salamanca is right on both counts
1 - only a true moron would hire somebody to not do what made them successful in the first place
2 - personnel will dictate the front, and it’ll be based on the offense’s groupings. You will be able to count on one hand the times we line up in a traditional 3-3-5 because there will always be a strong side
To add, I wouldn’t be too concerned with the D being all that different from what Busch was running the back half of the season, especially against limited passers (95% of the B1G)
Press coverage, 8+ in the box, bring the heat basically every play
We play in the easiest conference in the country to defend & it just got easier with Brohm leaving.
1 - only a true moron would hire somebody to not do what made them successful in the first place
2 - personnel will dictate the front, and it’ll be based on the offense’s groupings. You will be able to count on one hand the times we line up in a traditional 3-3-5 because there will always be a strong side
To add, I wouldn’t be too concerned with the D being all that different from what Busch was running the back half of the season, especially against limited passers (95% of the B1G)
Press coverage, 8+ in the box, bring the heat basically every play
We play in the easiest conference in the country to defend & it just got easier with Brohm leaving.
Especially a real analyst.Dunno, waiting to hear what the other Recruitinganalysts have to say first. Especially the universal one
Fickell is going to a more passing offense at Wisconsin. Maybe this is our counter to that.
It’s a very adaptable defense. You will see 3,4,5, even 6 man fronts and will also see 5+ DB’s manning up on receivers at times. Right now it’s all about getting playmakers and finding roles for them.
My impression of this defense is it’s at least somewhat similar to when Pelini would run a peso to get the best athletes on the field right?
If he doesn't fit in this new scheme, they should convert him to a FB/lead blocker cause he's always looking for contact.
There is a great video out there that talks about how he used undersized fast guys to make it successful. It can work, because there is proof, but can we get enough of those type of guys to make it work, or will it be more traditional guys with a couple of tweeners..Man, just don't understand all this angst. Most of us couldn't spell 3-3-5 a week ago and now everyone is an expert
it's the same thing as Bo having a peso player, a way to move another guy into the backfield or into the box depending on what look you're getting.
The part that had me a little concerned was the personnel type.. if you're going undersize and speed, I'm concerned that 1, we would be able to recruit enough of those guys, and 2) the wear of this conference and desire to run the ball.
If you're going with more natural players on the line, with a few tweeners, then I think it's workable... but a bunch of fast light guys isn't going to cut it in our league in my opinion.
He should just call it a 3-4 Oompa Loompa or something and everyone will shut up about it
Good post. I think the hand wringing over stopping the run of the Iowa’s of the world is also a little misplaced. Rocky Long, White’s mentor, had some stout run defenses over the years using this.
The spring game is 4 months away but should be very interesting to watch.
An offense trying to install a new system, a defense trying to install a new system.
Has all the ingredients for the game worth watching.
I'll be interested to see what type of personnel changes they have made compared to where some of them may have played in the previous year(s).
I want a full contact, get f*ck after it spring game. Guessing there will be 90k there. Ones vs ones.
Amen.. Pathtic what SF did during the past 2 springs..absolutely embarrassing..
I like Nelson with his hand in the dirt. Jimari Butler as a 3rd blitzing LB, Javin Wright as the 5th DB hybrid nickel “peso” or whatever White calls that guy.
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