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What will you do if HH doesn’t start?

Its clear as day. Are you a Moderator?

You do lack the authority to decide anything on here.

The only decision you are free to make on this forum is what you choose to post. Nothing more, nothing less.
please stop derailing this great thread with your personal crusade against me.

I'd like to see others' thoughts on what's been posted here.

thanks in advance.
 
please stop derailing this great thread with your personal crusade against me.

I'd like to see others' thoughts on what's been posted here.

thanks in advance.
I think the consensus will be that you are full of shit. Do a POLL. Let's find out.

It's obvious because other than 1 or 2 posters, everybody else has bowed out. Apparently they need a dose of Pepto Bismol after the HH news flashes ad nauseum.

Lack of participation means they care little about the topic.

My crusade against you? That's laughable. I just got tired of you berating and degrading people when they have a differing opinion on this subject matter than you have. Personal crusade my ass.

Lot of these folks aren't into arguing, they're into expressing their opinions. I'd rather not argue, but if an argument is gonna ensue, then bring it on Top Gun/John J Rambo/King Kong/Mr. Revisionist.

Sincerely the 1 time only easy.
 
Husker, your point is well intended and 100% true. You cannot have different rules for different kids, it just doesn't play well with the entire squad.

Sims isn't gonna declare for the draft, and you know Rhule and Satt will somehow think they can "straighten out" all of Sims' shortcomings over the next year. You're right, we're screwed.
The silver lining is that we aren't stuck with him for three more years after this year. If Rhule can't find it in himself to go get a serviceable QB before next season, he'll have no choice after next year - although given what happend here it will remain to be seen whether he and Satterfield can make a smart pick, and whether they will have lost the team by then.
 
you are vigorously campaigning for me to change because you disagree with my way of doing things

cannot think of a better word

derailing this thread with your crusade is a travesty

you owe everyone here an apology
What I am campaigning for is the fact that you're a nasty sob to some of these people who are simply trying to express their opinions. Not your opinion, their opinion.

The difference between myself and a lot of less intense posters, is that I'm built for this shit.

The travesty is you can't sleep at night because HH is not the QB that you dream about.

If others feel I owe them an apology, I will apologize to them. To them.
 
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The silver lining is that we aren't stuck with him for three more years after this year. If Rhule can't find it in himself to go get a serviceable QB before next season, he'll have no choice after next year - although given what happend here it will remain to be seen whether he and Satterfield can make a smart pick, and whether they will have lost the team by then.
Sims is a junior and will be here next year.
 
What I am campaigning for is the fact that you're a nasty sob to some of these people who are simply trying to express their opinions. Not your opinion, their opinion.

The travesty is you can't sleep at night because HH is not the QB that you dream about.

If others feel I owe them an apology, I will apologize to them. To them.
this has taken an odd turn.

touch your unkempt grass.

GBR!
 
The odd turn in the thing is I'm late for my lunch and my wife is calling me away from this little spat.

My grass is none of your concern.

I agree, GBR, and yes, we would all like to see a change in QB. Who that is? I don't care.
have fun!
 
Haarberg couldn't replace AM, Casey, or Sims. Frost, Whipple, Mickey, Rhule, Satt don't think he's got 'it'.

He's only there for depth or else would've been given his marching orders.
 
if they're baseless, they don't matter to me.

I'm not telling them not to post.

they should know where they stand and they are welcome for my candor.

"he gives us the best chance to win" is a non-opinion based on nothing.
. Your handle shouldn’t have been Topgun. It should have been OverTheTop……. Use that one the third time you’re permabanned. 😉
 
Realistically who wants Haarberg if he transfers?

Rhule got sold bad goods with Sims and he expected him to start these 2 years…

If Sims isn’t 100% HH should start against NIU..But no question Sims is Rhule’s QB..
 
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Baylor was a total dumpster fire due to Briles teams rapes and sexual assaults and transfers. I think Rhule only had 25 scholarships to work with. Temple maybe, Baylor no way.
Season Records in succession starting in 2011.
10-3
8-5
11-2
11-2 (all Briles)
7-6 Jim Grobe
1-11 (Matt Rhule)
7-6
11-3

Seems there is only one disaster there and that's Rhules first year. The narrative is that he raised them out of the embers. I don't buy it. I have my own opinion on how Briles got railroaded but that's a different discussion.
Doesn't Grobe get just a little credit here? He was the conduit. Rhule put together one nightmare year which I think falls squarely on him, a .500 year and another with three losses. Then he rode the rails out of town. I don't find it all that impressive. He continued on to a pro coaching career that lasted 2 plus seasons before they drove him out, the guy that stepped in for him had a better winning percentage than Rhule had in any of his three seasons in the pros.
Go look too at his Temple season records and before he got there. There wasn't this amazing improvement people have been conned into.
 
Season Records in succession starting in 2011.
10-3
8-5
11-2
11-2 (all Briles)
7-6 Jim Grobe
1-11 (Matt Rhule)
7-6
11-3

Seems there is only one disaster there and that's Rhules first year. The narrative is that he raised them out of the embers. I don't buy it. I have my own opinion on how Briles got railroaded but that's a different discussion.
Doesn't Grobe get just a little credit here? He was the conduit. Rhule put together one nightmare year which I think falls squarely on him, a .500 year and another with three losses. Then he rode the rails out of town. I don't find it all that impressive. He continued on to a pro coaching career that lasted 2 plus seasons before they drove him out, the guy that stepped in for him had a better winning percentage than Rhule had in any of his three seasons in the pros.
Go look too at his Temple season records and before he got there. There wasn't this amazing improvement people have been conned into.
It doesn't make any difference if you're right or wrong because he's here now.
Try to get his contract voided since he conned everybody.
 
Season Records in succession starting in 2011.
10-3
8-5
11-2
11-2 (all Briles)
7-6 Jim Grobe
1-11 (Matt Rhule)
7-6
11-3

Seems there is only one disaster there and that's Rhules first year. The narrative is that he raised them out of the embers. I don't buy it. I have my own opinion on how Briles got railroaded but that's a different discussion.
Doesn't Grobe get just a little credit here? He was the conduit. Rhule put together one nightmare year which I think falls squarely on him, a .500 year and another with three losses. Then he rode the rails out of town. I don't find it all that impressive. He continued on to a pro coaching career that lasted 2 plus seasons before they drove him out, the guy that stepped in for him had a better winning percentage than Rhule had in any of his three seasons in the pros.
Go look too at his Temple season records and before he got there. There wasn't this amazing improvement people have been conned into.
Look beyond the record. Rhule jettisoned all the Briles thugs (a couple of whom remain in prison to this day) and played his first Baylor season with 44 scholarship kids. Grobe was a placeholder. It became Rhule's job to clean up the cesspool that was Baylor football
 
If his ankle isn’t 100% on Saturday I hope the hell he sits.
The only strength Sims has, is his ability to run the football.

If they trot him out there and his ankle is bad, that reminds me of what happened to Taylor Martinez.

Is it even possible to conceive that Sims could be T-Mart material? Can they only have him throw to the sidelines and deep? I don't think he's accurate or enough of a gamer to pull a T-Mart season, but that is what comes to mind.
 
dingle, there are a couple differences in Lawrence /HH comparison. For one thing, Clemson was coming off the DeShaun Watson years and Dabo loved the results. Then the next year, he had that Bryant kid, who was a pretty good QB, but was not going to be the difference maker that Dabo wanted. Even with Watson and a loaded squad, they barely got past Bama. So if there's one thing Dabo knows is how good a team has to be to win it all.

So, early on Lawrence got in, later Bryant transferred, I think to Missouri and as it turns out, Dabo was right since Trevor was a great college QB and Bryant was a good QB.

Dabo also had an over abundance of 1st round draft picks on the DL, and that combo led Dabo to the national title. Had Dabo stayed with Bryant, there's no avenue for that same level of success.

It doesn't make any difference if its Saban, Meyer, Swinney, Osborne or whomever, those top, top coaches recognize great talent when they see it.

Saban pulls Hurts at halftime and inserts Tua who helps win the title.
Meyer wins the national title with the 3rd string QB.
Swinney wins the title with Watson and 2 years later is back with Trevor.
Tom made no bones about Tommie being the most valuable player for the team he ever had.

You suppose that's what separates the good coaches from the great ones?

Moral of the story? HH in practice likely hasn't shown that he is gonna be that type of difference maker, so Rhule chooses to go with the experience, and to hell with the turnover issue.

To me, the prevailing point is: Does Sims have what it takes to lead this team to victories? Forget West Division title or Big Ten title. Thus far the answer is no.

The question is, is this the best decision for the other 100 kids on the team?

**Edit** Last year Whipple (for whatever reason) wanted no part of HH. No doubt, CT was a superior QB. If, HH had "it" then maybe the narrative changes and he's not bypassed by a less than productive Purdy.

We DON'T know what the actual reason is this excellent physical specimen can not get on the field. Do we even know if this kids has the smarts or savvy to lead a 10-12 play drive and make the calls and check calls that it takes against good teams? We don't know, but we need to find out.
Supposedly Purdy hasn’t been 100% healthy this past 2 weeks so Haarberg’s backup spot might not be set in stone.

I watched a fair amount of Lawrence his first year and while his results were very good I attributed much of that to raw athleticism, size and his supporting cast. Unfortunately we don’t have the dudes that Clemson had.
 
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Supposedly Purdy hasn’t been 100% healthy this past 2 weeks so Haarberg’s backup spot might not be set in stone.

I watched a fair amount of Lawrence his first year and while his results were very good I attributed much of that to raw athleticism, size and his supporting cast. Unfortunately we don’t have the dudes that Clemson had.
Purdy seems to be injury prone.
 
Purdy seems to be injury prone.
Must’ve tweaked something carrying Haarberg’s pads before or after practice

The one play the rules forced him in there was so bad on Sat. Backpedal left, happy feet/scared shitless, loft one back right, tipped at line

Classic purdy. Waste of a scholarship
 
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Cheer my A$$ off for the defense.

I told my wife during the Colorado game, that I have that old nervous excitement feeling again. Like we have a real chance.

Yeah I'm frustrated, but it has been far too long since I felt we really could/should win games like Minnesota and Colorado
 
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I think the consensus will be that you are full of shit. Do a POLL. Let's find out.

It's obvious because other than 1 or 2 posters, everybody else has bowed out. Apparently they need a dose of Pepto Bismol after the HH news flashes ad nauseum.

Lack of participation means they care little about the topic.

My crusade against you? That's laughable. I just got tired of you berating and degrading people when they have a differing opinion on this subject matter than you have. Personal crusade my ass.

Lot of these folks aren't into arguing, they're into expressing their opinions. I'd rather not argue, but if an argument is gonna ensue, then bring it on Top Gun/John J Rambo/King Kong/Mr. Revisionist.

Sincerely the 1 time only easy.
I applaud itseasyas1-2-3 and agree wholeheartedly. In the beginning he tried to give you a nice hint at your sh!t is getting old, which you ignored. Then he upped it a notch and you ignored it again. Everytime you step foot in this forum, you start clubbing anything, anybody that doesn't align with your thought process. You're mannerism on this forum fits the the ole saying, "like a bull in a china shop". The only way to converse with you is to agree with you, if we don't, our opinion is flawed, doesn't matter, or we're degraded and called an idiot.

Do what itseasyas1-2-3 suggested, create a poll and truly find out where you stand here. People don't want to hear nonstop negativity, there's to much of it in everyday life. Face it, you take a giant sh!t in just about every thread you post on. No one really cares what you said months ago other than you. Hell, even a broken mechanical clock is right twice a day.
 
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The only strength Sims has, is his ability to run the football.

If they trot him out there and his ankle is bad, that reminds me of what happened to Taylor Martinez.

Is it even possible to conceive that Sims could be T-Mart material? Can they only have him throw to the sidelines and deep? I don't think he's accurate or enough of a gamer to pull a T-Mart season, but that is what comes to mind.
Sims moves half speed compared to T-mart. He has less burst than Adrian too.
 
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if they're baseless, they don't matter to me.

I'm not telling them not to post.

they should know where they stand and they are welcome for my candor.

"he gives us the best chance to win" is a non-opinion based on nothing.

It's an actual opinion. Wtf is a non-opinion?
 
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no sims again (I think)

offense meshing well

coincidence?

 
Season Records in succession starting in 2011.
10-3
8-5
11-2
11-2 (all Briles)
7-6 Jim Grobe
1-11 (Matt Rhule)
7-6
11-3

Seems there is only one disaster there and that's Rhules first year. The narrative is that he raised them out of the embers. I don't buy it. I have my own opinion on how Briles got railroaded but that's a different discussion.
Doesn't Grobe get just a little credit here? He was the conduit. Rhule put together one nightmare year which I think falls squarely on him, a .500 year and another with three losses. Then he rode the rails out of town. I don't find it all that impressive. He continued on to a pro coaching career that lasted 2 plus seasons before they drove him out, the guy that stepped in for him had a better winning percentage than Rhule had in any of his three seasons in the pros.
Go look too at his Temple season records and before he got there. There wasn't this amazing improvement people have been conned into.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Baylor. None, zero, zilch, nada

The 7-6 Grobe record includes a stretch of 6 straight losses to end the regular season, one of only 3 teams ever to start the season 6-0 and end up 6-6. Grobe and his staff spent more time trying to defend Art Briles than they did recruiting for Baylor. There was 1 single committed player to Baylor when Rhule took over. There were 54 players on scholarship at that time as well. In 2 months, he recruited and signed 26 other players and was able to get the scholarship numbers up near 85. A large number of players left and transferred because they were upset Briles was let go, which led to the low number of players on scholarship in January when Rhule took over.

Not everything is in a vacuum. You can't just look at a record and say, well this is what he took over.


As far as Temple goes, they were a MAC team in 2011, moved to the Big East in 2012 which became the American in 2013. Addazio let them to 4 victories in their first year in the Big East/ American. Victories came against an FCS team in Villanova, a 2 win Army team and USF and UConn who combined for 3 league wins. They sucked. Then Rhule took over and started the rebuild.

Calling you clueless would be an insult to the truly clueless.
 
Hope not

He needs his rest!
This is a little bit touchy of a post, but at any rate, something that's bothersome to me.

At Georgia Tech, during the 2021 season, Sims missed the last 3 games.
During the 2022 season, he missed the last 5 games.
Nevermind the fact they were finishing up with teams like Notre Dame and Georgia.

I'm not saying he wasn't/isn't banged up, legitimately injured, or just taking a powder. But, is it possible despite his physical prowess, he just isn't very tough mentally? Is it possible he's the type of athlete that's only gonna want to go when he feels 100% healthy? Hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

Until he answers those questions, NU might be best served to get another 1 or 2 QB's ready to lead the team.

If Rhule's announced goal is to build/develop a team with a physical presence, it makes sense to me that outfit would be led by a warrior at QB, like a Tommie Frazier or a Scott Frost. Or even a Taylor Martinez who kept answering the bell despite being less than 100% physically ready.

If I'm presuming something that turns out to not be true, I'll own it.
 
This is a little bit touchy of a post, but at any rate, something that's bothersome to me.

At Georgia Tech, during the 2021 season, Sims missed the last 3 games.
During the 2022 season, he missed the last 5 games.
Nevermind the fact they were finishing up with teams like Notre Dame and Georgia.

I'm not saying he wasn't/isn't banged up, legitimately injured, or just taking a powder. But, is it possible despite his physical prowess, he just isn't very tough mentally? Is it possible he's the type of athlete that's only gonna want to go when he feels 100% healthy? Hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

Until he answers those questions, NU might be best served to get another 1 or 2 QB's ready to lead the team.

If Rhule's announced goal is to build/develop a team with a physical presence, it makes sense to me that outfit would be led by a warrior at QB, like a Tommie Frazier or a Scott Frost. Or even a Taylor Martinez who kept answering the bell despite being less than 100% physically ready.

If I'm presuming something that turns out to not be true, I'll own it.
In fairness, he was injured against Virginia, sat for 2 weeks, then was unavailable for the Miami game, and then DNP coach's decision for the following 2. They were 3-3 with him as the starter, with wins against Western Carolina, Duke and Pitt and losses to Clemson, UCF and Ole Miss.
 
HH's lack of experience will probably account for at least one or two turnovers if he asked to throw the ball downfield. The drop-off from Sims to HH and Chuba is pretty steep, so you go with Sims and hope he cuts down on turnovers as the season progresses. He also is a major weapon on offense because of his legs.

HH or Chuba cannot get this team to six wins this year. Maybe next year, but not this year. Sims can if he can reduce the turnovers.
I tend to disagree mike. If the defense continues to play well, and with as many kids as White is playing, they could stay somewhat fresh. Offensively, NU needs a QB that takes care of the ball and doesn't put the defense on its heels.

Many teams have done well with a strong defense and an offense that can take care of the ball. NU just needs HH or Purdy or whomever to stay within their strength, and avoid the killer turnovers.
 
HH's lack of experience will probably account for at least one or two turnovers if he asked to throw the ball downfield. The drop-off from Sims to HH and Chuba is pretty steep, so you go with Sims and hope he cuts down on turnovers as the season progresses. He also is a major weapon on offense because of his legs.

HH or Chuba cannot get this team to six wins this year. Maybe next year, but not this year. Sims can if he can reduce the turnovers.
we've seen the drop off from anyone to purdy is essentially the wall of the Grand Canyon

but we do not know about Haarberg until we see it. it's not like it'll take Payton Manning to perform at an even or better level than we've seen from Sims.
 
In fairness, he was injured against Virginia, sat for 2 weeks, then was unavailable for the Miami game, and then DNP coach's decision for the following 2. They were 3-3 with him as the starter, with wins against Western Carolina, Duke and Pitt and losses to Clemson, UCF and Ole Miss.
I didn't do a deep dive, I just looked at each year and started with the season finale and went from there.
As I said Tuco, if I'm presuming something that is proven wrong, I'll own it.

(Do you always have to have the doggone receipts? lol)
 
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