What will you do if HH doesn’t start?
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Shrug my shoulders and hope that Sims can right the ship.
What other choice is there? Turn the channel? Not fvcking likely.
What other choice is there? Turn the channel? Not fvcking likely.
I am going to use this thread to revisit some things that I honestly can't believe we're discussing, if you don't mind. reminder: John_J_Rambo is my former handle.
time is a flat circle
from 8/28/2021:
time is a flat circle
from 8/28/2021:
from 7/7/2021, aimed at AM, but shockingly appropriate 26 months and 3 QBs later:
Top_Gun_ was before Haarberg's timeI don't believe it until I hear it from Top Gun!!
when posting the below on 8/1/2021, I never in a million years thought it would STILL BE APPLICABLE more than 2 years and 2 head coaches later
just substitute "frost" for "rhule", "AM" for "Sims" and "2021" with "2023":
just substitute "frost" for "rhule", "AM" for "Sims" and "2021" with "2023":
and finally, a quote HH's first ever interview with the media - 5/1/2021:
this is what a leader sounds like. this is what the quarterback at the University of Nebraska sounds like.
these words will never not ring true.
this is what a leader sounds like. this is what the quarterback at the University of Nebraska sounds like.
these words will never not ring true.
Why did u change your handle? I wasn't on the board at that time. Did someone draw First Blood?
I got banned for saying some regrettable stuff about our former QB after he threw 4 picks in a home loss to purdue.
I am not sure they will do that. But here is my issue. People say that HH is not as good. Okay cool let's assume that is a valid argument. Can HH or even Chubba for that matter catch snaps? But if HH cannot catch snaps/hand the ball off then it is a Rhule/OC issue and tells me a lot more. This is the perfect time to try something new. If he truly is terrible then Sims can come back in. But 7 turnovers in 8 quarters is truely terrible. Plus he did not play the 4th quarter lol. We only need a game manager at this point. We need to take a tiny bit of pressure off the run game and defense. Keep the chains moving.
Definitely going to be interesting if he plays Sims and he has another 4 turnovers.
You heading in the same direction in the event HH doesn't get a fair shake (in your mind at least)?
You are consistent if nothing else. I’ll give some ammunition. Rhule likes to use comparisons to show recruits what they could be. My comparison for HH from the little bit I’ve seen is Trevor Lawrence early in his college days. People forget how wild Lawrence was in the passing game but he was surrounded by NFL talent who could go get the ball.
I would like to see what HH does with an extended tryout in a game. I think what he did at CU deserves at least a series or two this Saturday. He has the physical tools but we don’t know if he has the mental tools and enough accuracy.
no.
any and all criticism will be directed at Preacher Rhule and blockhead trev.
it's not sims's fault he sucks.
Are you going to say whatever you said about Amart, about Rhule, Trev or anybody, I think is what easy is asking.
Rhule - “wasn’t even a thought” to take Sims out - It doesn’t sound like Sims is coming out while healthy but I agree, when it’s this bad you try someone else. HH and Purdy must REALLY suck in practice. The only other conclusions would be that Matt Rhule shouldn’t even be coaching peewee, or there is some sort of under-the-table action going on, unrelated to winning that keeps Sims the starting QB.
You can’t really bitch about Trev though, Rhule was a great hire. If he fails as miserably as the last two, then there’s probably something happening on a different realm of existence that none of us can even begin to understand.
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trev retained the losingest football coach in NU history for an additional year
trev retained and gave a raise to the losingest basketball coach in NU history
it's far too early to say Rhule was a "great hire". in fact, from where we all sit today, it looks like an awful hire.
Sims is rhule/satt's guy. they went out and got him. it's only human to give your chosen QB every benefit of the doubt & develop tunnel vision for them. we have seen countless examples of 2nd stringers coming in and winning the starting job during the season. hell, wally pipp started over lou gehrig until an injury forced him out.
I will not say anything about anyone that gets me banned from this site again.
Calling people names makes the person doing it appear less intelligent.😉
dingle, there are a couple differences in Lawrence /HH comparison. For one thing, Clemson was coming off the DeShaun Watson years and Dabo loved the results. Then the next year, he had that Bryant kid, who was a pretty good QB, but was not going to be the difference maker that Dabo wanted. Even with Watson and a loaded squad, they barely got past Bama. So if there's one thing Dabo knows is how good a team has to be to win it all.
So, early on Lawrence got in, later Bryant transferred, I think to Missouri and as it turns out, Dabo was right since Trevor was a great college QB and Bryant was a good QB.
Dabo also had an over abundance of 1st round draft picks on the DL, and that combo led Dabo to the national title. Had Dabo stayed with Bryant, there's no avenue for that same level of success.
It doesn't make any difference if its Saban, Meyer, Swinney, Osborne or whomever, those top, top coaches recognize great talent when they see it.
Saban pulls Hurts at halftime and inserts Tua who helps win the title.
Meyer wins the national title with the 3rd string QB.
Swinney wins the title with Watson and 2 years later is back with Trevor.
Tom made no bones about Tommie being the most valuable player for the team he ever had.
You suppose that's what separates the good coaches from the great ones?
Moral of the story? HH in practice likely hasn't shown that he is gonna be that type of difference maker, so Rhule chooses to go with the experience, and to hell with the turnover issue.
To me, the prevailing point is: Does Sims have what it takes to lead this team to victories? Forget West Division title or Big Ten title. Thus far the answer is no.
The question is, is this the best decision for the other 100 kids on the team?
**Edit** Last year Whipple (for whatever reason) wanted no part of HH. No doubt, CT was a superior QB. If, HH had "it" then maybe the narrative changes and he's not bypassed by a less than productive Purdy.
We DON'T know what the actual reason is this excellent physical specimen can not get on the field. Do we even know if this kids has the smarts or savvy to lead a 10-12 play drive and make the calls and check calls that it takes against good teams? We don't know, but we need to find out.
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While I think NIU could cause us some problems...mainly because of our own stupidity. Im not sure if this opponent is truly a good measuring stick for which QB is better. If Sims is at all injured he should sit. If he starts and turns the ball over twice he should sit. Whatever at this point but either guy should be able to lead us to a win against a mismatched NIU. Who knows if that will happen.
Im saying since Trev or anyone else can’t peer into a crystal ball when hiring someone, Rhule was a great hire by all accounts. I’ll agree he should not have kept Frost another year even though he lowered his payout and yes Fred should’ve been canned.
Hope Sims plays well, and yell at tv per usual if he doesn't. Not much else I can do.
Know that this season is lost.
Hope the team doesn't pack it in knowing there is a set of rules for some, and other rules for others.
Fear next season is lost too because Sims has another year and if they don't make a change after the first two games this year, they never will.
Resolve at my age it is possible I will never see Nebraska in the top 10 in my lifetime.
Hope the team doesn't pack it in knowing there is a set of rules for some, and other rules for others.
Fear next season is lost too because Sims has another year and if they don't make a change after the first two games this year, they never will.
Resolve at my age it is possible I will never see Nebraska in the top 10 in my lifetime.
Rhule was not a great hire. There has been some deceptive things said about his record. Last three years he was horrid in the pros, they even fired him early in the season and the guy that filled in for him had a better winning pct that Rhule had in any of his three seasons.
But that's the pros, who cares, right?
In Rhule's two college jobs it has been claimed he rebuilt failing programs. Nope, not true. Go look at the season records of both Temple and Baylor prior to Rhule. They actually weren't doing that bad. Rhule comes in and takes them down into not seen before depths and then brings them back to the kind of of program they were when he arrived. Look it up, its kind of an eye opener. In effect, we've been sold a bill of goods.
Not that I don't hope for the best but it would only be an improvement from what he has done.
The difference with Rhule is this is the first time he's coached a college team that gives a fvck if the team wins or not. That wasn't necessarily true at Temple, and it definitely wasn't the case at Baylor. Coach Rhule will only answer to Trev, if and when Trev is confronted by somebody that matters, this situation isn't gonna change.
Husker, your point is well intended and 100% true. You cannot have different rules for different kids, it just doesn't play well with the entire squad.
Sims isn't gonna declare for the draft, and you know Rhule and Satt will somehow think they can "straighten out" all of Sims' shortcomings over the next year. You're right, we're screwed.
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I try not to get too carried away calling people names, I know I don't call people stupid and morons, etc.
But, I do cuss liberally and frankly I have a real good vocabulary.
Its easier for me to cuss as a point of emphasis, or frustration.
posting this again simply because of how jarring the reality is that we're going through THE EXACT SAME THING WE WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE TIME (Aug of 2021):
getting Haarberg meaningful reps this year is the best thing that could happen to Rhule and our future
farting around with Sims any longer won't win us games in the near term and will cost us valuable experience long term
we need to cut our losses.
2023 season is meaningless anyway. we all agree Rhule isn't going anywhere no matter what happens, and we have less than a snowball's chance in hell to win any meaningful games, so why not see if we have an actual player in #10?
the only words in this post from 26 freaking months ago that I changed were "frost" -> "Rhule", "AM" -> "Sims" and "2021" -> "2023"
astonishing we're right back where we were prior to the '21 season. absolutely astonishing.
getting Haarberg meaningful reps this year is the best thing that could happen to Rhule and our future
farting around with Sims any longer won't win us games in the near term and will cost us valuable experience long term
we need to cut our losses.
2023 season is meaningless anyway. we all agree Rhule isn't going anywhere no matter what happens, and we have less than a snowball's chance in hell to win any meaningful games, so why not see if we have an actual player in #10?
the only words in this post from 26 freaking months ago that I changed were "frost" -> "Rhule", "AM" -> "Sims" and "2021" -> "2023"
astonishing we're right back where we were prior to the '21 season. absolutely astonishing.
Baylor was a total dumpster fire due to Briles teams rapes and sexual assaults and transfers. I think Rhule only had 25 scholarships to work with. Temple maybe, Baylor no way.
But kong, with all due respect, you've made your point 100+ different times. We all know where you stand. Is it important to us if you happen to be proven right? Fcvk no it isn't, but its important for our team.
I write lots of long posts that I'm sure lots of folks just skip, and I can be a bit redundant, but dude you're over the top on this Preacher Rhule and HH thing. I know you won't, but you should give it a rest.
If I made a new thread and a poll and the question was: Who does kong want to be the NU QB, I bet you 100% of them know your choice by now. Part 2 would be: Should we all call coach Rhule the Preacher.
Again, we all know.
I dogged Benhart for 3 years, now its Piper, Corcoran and Sims because Benhart hasn't been as visible this year.
Do what you want to do, but I suggest you hit edit before you send emotional postings about the QB spot, or we may well be addressing you by a different avatar in the future. Peace out.
(Normally, you're gonna attack me here, go for it).
Watch the game, root for Sims to play better.
