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Uh, were all having the conversation, aren't we? I think he accomplished plenty. Good for him.

Yep, and zero posts about solutions or what anyone is going to do to cure the "oppression." This is post 121 and there's lots of posts about MRI, MRI's dad, Nebraska fans, Ameer, the flag, etc., but none about solutions or how any individuals on here are going to help this vague issue. I assume the percentage of productive talk is pretty close to the same everywhere in Nebraska. Anyone who performs this protest anymore knows that they are only bringing attention to themselves and not actually helping solve the problem. So if that's what MRI wanted, again, mission accomplished. Other than that, he's accomplished nothing.

I'm not going to flush a turd at work tomorrow because I am against world hunger. Lots of people are going to talk about it, and most people will be pissed at me, but world hunger will continue.
 
Dude said African Americans are going through the same treatment MLK and the community did when they were standing up for civil rights. irrational and insensitive to the cause they fought for.
Good lord. I have nothing but disgust and hatred for the deplorables and their racism. But let's not diminish the courage MLK and his followers showed 50 years ago. What they went through was overt, in your face, and life threatening. Many lives were lost back then.
 
YIKES! The NFL didn't get the news!
Guess his plea went unheeded.

Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.

"No work. No school. No shopping for 24 hours," the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote on Facebook.

"Imagine if every single African American in the United States that was really fed up with being angry, sad and disgusted, would pick ONE DAY to simply 'stay at home' from every single job, work site, sports arena and government office in the United States of America. I'm very sure that within 72 hours from Wall Street to the NFL...Black Lives Would Matter. September 26, 2016 is THE DAY."

In his post, Washington used hashtags #RIPTerenceCrutcher #HandsUpDontShoo
Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.
 
Yep, and zero posts about solutions or what anyone is going to do to cure the "oppression." This is post 121 and there's lots of posts about MRI, MRI's dad, Nebraska fans, Ameer, the flag, etc., but none about solutions or how any individuals on here are going to help this vague issue. I assume the percentage of productive talk is pretty close to the same everywhere in Nebraska. Anyone who performs this protest anymore knows that they are only bringing attention to themselves and not actually helping solve the problem. So if that's what MRI wanted, again, mission accomplished. Other than that, he's accomplished nothing.

I'm not going to flush a turd at work tomorrow because I am against world hunger. Lots of people are going to talk about it, and most people will be pissed at me, but world hunger will continue.
ahhhh.. my point, the vast majority of hunger is political worldwide, not lack of food. warlords and oppressive regimes create it.. so one political party has ruled inner cities in America. so, they have the power, how will they fix it ?
 
YIKES! The NFL didn't get the news!
Guess his plea went unheeded.

Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.

"No work. No school. No shopping for 24 hours," the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote on Facebook.

"Imagine if every single African American in the United States that was really fed up with being angry, sad and disgusted, would pick ONE DAY to simply 'stay at home' from every single job, work site, sports arena and government office in the United States of America. I'm very sure that within 72 hours from Wall Street to the NFL...Black Lives Would Matter. September 26, 2016 is THE DAY."

In his post, Washington used hashtags #RIPTerenceCrutcher #HandsUpDontShoo
Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.
and what politcal party do african americans vote for, what party rules inner cities ? how does it get fixed ? im not voting for these clowns, and now its wall streets fault. we've incurred massive debt and have an African American as a PREZ. problem is worse.. who is to blame ?
 
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LBJ's "War on Poverty" I truly believe led to the destruction of the black family structure.
The black father figure was replaced by a welfare check, if dad left the household.

The Dems...yep, they control the big cities, crumbling inner cities & the folks under their thumb.
They have ensured the black vote by duping blacks to accept gov. handouts, not a hand up.
"The War" has been going on 50+ years with nothing to show whatsoever. What? We got 4 or 5 generations of welfare recipients?!
 
and what politcal party do african americans vote for, what party rules inner cities ? how does it get fixed ? im not voting for these clowns, and now its wall streets fault. we've incurred massive debt and have an African American as a PREZ. problem is worse.. who is to blame ?

National debt? Military spending makes up 50% or more of federal tax revenue each year. Nobody is Washington is going to scale that back regardless of who you vote for.
 
National debt? Military spending makes up 50% or more of federal tax revenue each year. Nobody is Washington is going to scale that back regardless of who you vote for.
trillions spent on welfare since johnson to what end? so dems own it all. whats the solution ? you broke it you own it. now fix it . i have no say on who the mayors of these cities ..
 
I guess what bothers me about the protest is that it is a protest against "police brutality", and in reality, police brutality is way way down the list of problems in America. Police are now more sensitized and psychologized and scrutinized than at any time in history. And while there is occasional needless brutality, the number of such incidents as a percentage of all police contacts with the public in general, or even blacks in particular, is low. And much of the protesting is against a straw man, stuffed by "activists." What did the police even do wrong in Ferguson, or Baltimore, or Charlotte? Nothing proved in any courts, but the neighborhoods burned anyway. These athletes would be just as useful kneeling to protest "mob rule and looting" in various cities in the last year, but they aren't. The team has been all unified this year, I'm hearing, but now Rose-Ivey and company want to inject something non-football into the scene every week, to protest a non-issue. Why don't they do something in their free time to help with the issue if they think it is important?
 
I guess what bothers me about the protest is that it is a protest against "police brutality", and in reality, police brutality is way way down the list of problems in America. Police are now more sensitized and psychologized and scrutinized than at any time in history. And while there is occasional needless brutality, the number of such incidents as a percentage of all police contacts with the public in general, or even blacks in particular, is low. And much of the protesting is against a straw man, stuffed by "activists." What did the police even do wrong in Ferguson, or Baltimore, or Charlotte? Nothing proved in any courts, but the neighborhoods burned anyway. These athletes would be just as useful kneeling to protest "mob rule and looting" in various cities in the last year, but they aren't. The team has been all unified this year, I'm hearing, but now Rose-Ivey and company want to inject something non-football into the scene every week, to protest a non-issue. Why don't they do something in their free time to help with the issue if they think it is important?

I'm probably going to regret opining here, but the police in Ferguson were found to be guilty of numerous rights violations by the Justice Department. Just because the Michael Brown shooting was justified, that doesn't mean that the community didn't have numerous valid complaints about how they were being treated. In Baltimore, the prosecutor publicly called the police out for sabotaging the investigation into the Freddy Gray incident. The Charlotte shooting may well turn out to be justified (or it might not) but it is absolutely the case that the officer who shot the man did not have his body camera running, which is a clear violation of department policy. There are numerous cases that one could point to. Some involve white people, some involve black people, some involve hispanic people, they involve veterans, innocent old ladies, harmless puppies, autistic nine year olds, you name it. Omaha is a city that has a good police force with a series of chiefs who have sought to maintain high standards of accountability, yet within the last decade there have been two instances of sexual assault by local law enforcement that we know of (one was a cop, I don't quite remember what agency the other rapist was affiliated with.)

I also think that you are greatly underestimating the degree to which police use excessive force or completely unjustified force (remember the tennis player in New York, I think his last name is Blake, who was tackled while minding his own business because he looked like a suspect in a non violent crime?) I think much of the anger isn't even rooted in the instances of police brutality, I think it stems from the absolute lack of accountability and the attitude that the victim "had it coming" or "should have complied." In some cases people who were doing absolutely nothing illegal or even suspicious are being shot or beaten up and there are no consequences. Most cops are good people who are trying their hardest to do a tough job, but that doesn't change the fact that accountability is rare, that too many cops who would never abuse their authority enable those who do.

This whole incident brings to mind the story from last year about the pizza place in Indiana the owner of which said she wouldn't feel comfortable catering a same sex wedding. As you may recall, the SJWs went full psycho on her family and forced them to close their business. I remember thinking how terrible that was. If they wanted to change their minds maybe they should have gone to the pizza place, ordered a pizza and asked to talk to the family to hear them out and to try to graciously persuade them to have a change of heart. Maybe it wouldn't work, but at least both sides would benefit from listening to one another.

Three of our players engaged in a peaceful protest. They didn't protest looters and rioters because looters and rioters don't purport to serve the public to which the players belong. They didn't protest gang members because gang members aren't expected to be virtuous and aren't public employees. The wise thing for people upset about this protest would have been to try to find out why the players felt it was necessary to protest. Instead of an exchange of ideas many people dug in their heels, and some threatened their lives. When Kaepernick started his protest, I wasn't offended, but I did think it would probably be counterproductive. Instead it has exposed a lot of raw nerves and forced a discussion of these issues that wouldn't have happened otherwise. I don't endorse everything the protestors stand for, indeed I think some of it will only make things worse, but they've accomplished something productive and for that I think we should all be grateful.
 
You all have clearly not paid attention to the press conference that MRI just held. He made clear that he's not focusing on police.
I didn't see it. Is he focusing on the injustice of sports where there are not a fair share of black kids getting an opportunity to compete?
 
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Where has MRI been the last four plus years? These are purely election year theatrics on display. This election cycle cannot get over quick enough. False narratives that only divide this country. Now, it's dividing one of the most loyal fan bases around. Ameer's gross generalization of husker nation will not win many over. Really thought he was better than that. I don't care what MRI did, but come post election, you'll see these things fade away. Unless Trump wins, then you'll see Ferguson, Baltimore, Charlotte type events with regularity.
 
I have plenty of friends that served, and died.

Make it easy, name the time & day you'll be at the VFW in Bellevue. I'll share your post with every Veteran inside the VFW. Once you arrive, I'll go ahead and video tape your discussion with them and share it on here for everyone to watch.
I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I can see that you aren't really here for discussion between the horrible things you have said to me and your response here is more of a challenge than any real attempt to discuss the issue.

I'm sure there are plenty of guys who served on this board. The only backlash I'm getting is from you.

The crap I am talking about is all these people (like yourself) that suddenly have a case of false patriotism to further their own political agenda.

In that video, that coach had no right to do that. I'm not saying his intentions were bad, but what I am saying is, it is not his place to do that. You are doing the same thing.. arguing from a place of 'good intentions' but not from a place of having been there or done that. It doesn't give you the fundamental right.

Now you can call me all the names you want. I don't care. I'm trying to explain it to you, but whether you want to see or understand, is outside of my control.
 
I don't disagree fully with MRI, but I just hate that we now have division, and he is basically labelling NU as a bunch of racist hicks as we are turning around our team and entertaining big time recruits. There is no doubt there is a problem, but MRI had to make it about him.
 
I don't disagree fully with MRI, but I just hate that we now have division, and he is basically labelling NU as a bunch of racist hicks as we are turning around our team and entertaining big time recruits. There is no doubt there is a problem, but MRI had to make it about him.
just a hypothetical. are those who disagree with the three players allowed to boo on Sat? thinking that will happen possibly, hope not. also, should those who protest the protestors be escorted out of the stadium ?
 
just a hypothetical. are those who disagree with the three players allowed to boo on Sat? thinking that will happen possibly, hope not. also, should those who protest the protestors be escorted out of the stadium ?

I hate that we are even in this damn position. I don't think booing is going to make anything better. We don't need to be on the national news for this. We need to be at the forefront because we continue to win games and start to rebuild a program that has been down for many years. I'm pissed off and it is not because of people's beliefs, its more because right now we are possibly able to build something special, instead we are dealing with BS.
 
I hate that we are even in this damn position. I don't think booing is going to make anything better. We don't need to be on the national news for this. We need to be at the forefront because we continue to win games and start to rebuild a program that has been down for many years. I'm pissed off and it is not because of people's beliefs, its more because right now we are possibly able to build something special, instead we are dealing with BS.
agree.. only reason i bring it up, is im a SF fan, and in even in the liberal bastion of that city, Colin KAEPERNICK WAS BOOED, STILL IS.. here's the problem, free speech works both ways.. its bidirectional..
 
agree.. only reason i bring it up, is im a SF fan, and in even in the liberal bastion of that city, Colin KAEPERNICK WAS BOOED, STILL IS.. here's the problem, free speech works both ways.. its bidirectional..

100% agree, It's a crazy world right now.
 
is a bunch of crap..

I served, and I'll tell you something.. none of us eighteen year olds who joined thought anything about freedom or any of this crap.

Most guys just need the money and don't know what to do with themselves at that age. Maybe it is something that you do in your family. Maybe you do it for college money. Maybe a buddy talks you into it.

The last reason anyone joins is to go become some hero.

This is just a bunch of drama being used by people who never served in the first place to make some political point.

Quit using my service as some excuse to further your political agenda.


With all due respect, don't speak for the rest of us who served. I joined at 18 out of patriotism, a love for my country and a love of those who served before me. My hero's were always those who sacrificed all for this country, something you will never again see in this day and age. So please don't belittle our service based on your reason for joining, quite a few of us 18 year old do it out of love, respect and honor.
 
100% agree, It's a crazy world right now.
as an aside, i do crossfit, there are several muslims in that program i have become close to, had dinner with a husband and wife who moved here 20-yrs ago. he's an oncologist. anyway, he went on and on about how he loves this county and nebraskans. said in 20-years of being here, he's never encountered any hostility or anger from anyone here regarding his palestinian and muslim background.. wanted to share this story, since AA ,painted the state and it's people as racist... it is a story everyone should hear.. just made me proud to be a nebraskan... we're not racist monsters - we are good people
 
Dude said African Americans are going through the same treatment MLK and the community did when they were standing up for civil rights. irrational and insensitive to the cause they fought for.
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Is he free to speak his mind-- yes. However, MRI and all athletes doing this need to understand when they are using football (or whatever forum) they are doing so at their own risk. If they would do this somewhere as a normal public citizen that is totally different.

My beef with all of them is that they are doing this to "call attention" to the problems. In other words, I want someone else to fix it. They need to be the ones to work on solving the problems themselves. If that's donating money, time, etc. that's fine. You just can't expect to complain if you're not doing something yourself. That's hypocritical.

Also, MRI said he's heard the N word countless times behind the bench. I've attended 380+ games in person and don't recall hearing that word any game regardless of where I've sat. Don't we have security behind our bench and people aren't allowed there during games? I guess I'd be interested to see if others have heard that as well.

WHAT!?!? If they would do this somewhere as a "normal public citizen"??? Fact is they aren't normal public citizens. If they were no one would pay attention to them. Have you not noticed all of the "normal public citizens" that came before him in history that cried out about these same issues?

As far as your statement in regards to them doing this to "call attention" to the problems...WOW!!! That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements that I've read. Of course they are trying to "call attention" to the problems. You stating that, "they need to be the ones to work on solving the problems themselves is another statement that highlights a warped sense of thinking. They are willing to stand in front of the masses, state their issues, endure criticism, and still face the world. How are you going to come to the conclusion from their actions that they want someone else to fix the problems??? If that were true then they would be still sitting and not standing up for this cause. People who want someone else to do the work never get up off their behind.
 
Where has MRI been the last four plus years? These are purely election year theatrics on display. This election cycle cannot get over quick enough. False narratives that only divide this country. Now, it's dividing one of the most loyal fan bases around. Ameer's gross generalization of husker nation will not win many over. Really thought he was better than that. I don't care what MRI did, but come post election, you'll see these things fade away. Unless Trump wins, then you'll see Ferguson, Baltimore, Charlotte type events with regularity.
In 1968, two black Olympic athletes raised their fists during the national anthem. I'm sure glad to see progress since they created awareness.
 
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WHAT!?!? If they would do this somewhere as a "normal public citizen"??? Fact is they aren't normal public citizens. If they were no one would pay attention to them. Have you not noticed all of the "normal public citizens" that came before him in history that cried out about these same issues?

As far as your statement in regards to them doing this to "call attention" to the problems...WOW!!! That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements that I've read. Of course they are trying to "call attention" to the problems. You stating that, "they need to be the ones to work on solving the problems themselves is another statement that highlights a warped sense of thinking. They are willing to stand in front of the masses, state their issues, endure criticism, and still face the world. How are you going to come to the conclusion from their actions that they want someone else to fix the problems??? If that were true then they would be still sitting and not standing up for this cause. People who want someone else to do the work never get up off their behind.
just trying to figure out what the problem is exactly ? a complete and recent harvard study just said there is not disproportionate killings of blacks v.s whites by police...the study did find abnormally high rates of arrests.. If that is the problem lets work on it.. the other stuff is just nonsense..
 
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In 1968, two black Olympic athletes raised their fists during the national anthem. I'm sure glad to see progress since they created awareness.
my kids went to a HS in cali that had 27% caucasians, white kids often were bullied and intimidated by the majority.. wonder what would have happened on senior night if my son lifted a arm and made a white power gesture > you ok with that ? if so,we got no problem - rock on.. free speech is tuff, it cuts both ways.. Mikey Rose can do what he wants... I'm fine with that...
 
I am a police officer and I take no issue with him or other players across the country not standing for the anthem. We as police officers have a split second to respond, I am confident that many of these circumstances aren't racially motivated. We perceive a threat we can only give orders so many times before we begin to think this subject is combative. Any sudden movements on top of that spell trouble. Listen to the officer and we will get through anything together. White men are killed by police too, as well as white men killing police.Based on the media, If I wasn't in this profession and I was a young Black American I would think and do the same as him. Fact is, its typically not what its perceived,the media and headlines fuel this. Stats don't lie, I encourage all of you to look them up. Black on black crime is the highest criminal run in there is, however If I was an African American I would think based on the media that police and the country are racially driven.This is America we can think what we want and act freely, don't blame them for this because if you were in their shoes you'd think the same thing. If I am a police officer and am not upset then I think military personnel can stop taking it personally. This is America, why get upset about a protest. I know it's not true, don't tune into the radio that spews this, don't buy papers that spew this and don't click on sites that spew this. Love your country, but stop taking up an issue when everyone is entitled to their opinion.

There is one issue I have with your statement. When you interject "black on black crime is the highest criminal run there is". First off it's already known that people commit crimes in close proximity to where they live. Which would explain the 80-something percent of white on white crime. Most intriguingly though when I hear or read the "black on black" crime argument used this is what I/we hear/see. Black on black crime is high that is why they are getting assaulted by some police. That might not be what you mean but that is what you seem to be saying. When a black man is at least three times as likely as a white male to experience assault at the hands of police in this country I think that is despicable.
 
Y'all wanna get started on a solution let's begin with discussing all of these stereotypes that we Americans have recycled among each other about each other. The negative stereotypes that have us accepting them as fact. I think that would be a great starting point.
 
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There is one issue I have with your statement. When you interject "black on black crime is the highest criminal run there is". First off it's already known that people commit crimes in close proximity to where they live. Which would explain the 80-something percent of white on white crime. Most intriguingly though when I hear or read the "black on black" crime argument used this is what I/we hear/see. Black on black crime is high that is why they are getting assaulted by some police. That might not be what you mean but that is what you seem to be saying. When a black man is at least three times as likely as a white male to experience assault at the hands of police in this country I think that is despicable.

Harvard says there is a disproportionate rate of arrests between the two groups and nonlethal force.. glad to see you tell the truth - so so many lies have been proffered on the subject. so lets work on that as a society.. fine by me.. job #1 fire all inner city mayors and replace with new fresh faces with ideas - providing economic opportunity and school choices.. vouchers to attend religious schools for free, enterprise zones no taxes paid. .
 
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there were more protests by players from Michigan and Michigan State than Neb and I do not see locked threads on their boards and players getting derogatory messages

keep this shit up and our recruiting focus is going to quickly shift to the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana and western Nebraska. Lots and lots of ammo being provided by our fanbase to other schools located in more diverse areas to question why in the world an African American recruit would go to Nebraska

True! I would guess the same is being done to the University of Missouri, except on the opposite side of the coin. Looks like undergraduates are down about 10% at Missouri compared to 2015.
 
My problem with this whole concept is this... what is the end game?

Either one or a combination of the following things will happen: (1) people will get tired of hearing about it and simply ignore it (that's pretty much where I am at); (2) It will divide the country further and make the problems worse; (3) It will accomplish nothing and the people kneeling will realize they aren't actually accomplishing anything and stop kneeling; and/or (4) the kneeling will somehow fix the problems of racial injustice and the kneeling will end because the kneelers will again be proud to honor the nation's flag.....

I'm truly doubting #4 will happen.
 
just trying to figure out what the problem is exactly ? a complete and recent harvard study just said there is not disproportionate killings of blacks v.s whites by police...the study did find abnormally high rates of arrests.. If that is the problem lets work on it.. the other stuff is just nonsense..

Does that Harvard study just focus on police killing folks or does it encompass the abuse by police as well? Killings and abuse are two different things.
 
Where has MRI been the last four plus years? These are purely election year theatrics on display. This election cycle cannot get over quick enough. False narratives that only divide this country. Now, it's dividing one of the most loyal fan bases around. Ameer's gross generalization of husker nation will not win many over. Really thought he was better than that. I don't care what MRI did, but come post election, you'll see these things fade away. Unless Trump wins, then you'll see Ferguson, Baltimore, Charlotte type events with regularity.
No No No No ...hate is not going to win this election No...Fully aware that Hillary is a really really bad choice but Trump would be a national and International embarrassment and would probably set things back in the country to the 1800s
 
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there were more protests by players from Michigan and Michigan State than Neb and I do not see locked threads on their boards and players getting derogatory messages

keep this shit up and our recruiting focus is going to quickly shift to the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana and western Nebraska. Lots and lots of ammo being provided by our fanbase to other schools located in more diverse areas to question why in the world an African American recruit would go to Nebraska[/QUO
 
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