Not all of the guys Frost recruited are going to fit like hoped when they get on campus. It's the nature of bringing in a bunch of 18 year olds and throwing them in a room together. Never mind that they're from all over the country and different backgrounds with expectations of their own.
I doubt they're half assing it in practice as much as just not working hard enough off the field to learn their position responsibilites (WRs especially). Frankly some of them might not be football smart enough to do the job and you wouldn't know that until they try to. I'll worry about that IF we see that out of the this year's true freshman next season.
That is still on the coach. If a player isn’t doing what they’re supposed to be doing and are still seeing the field then that is the expectation regardless of what you say as a coach.
That's why we aren't seeing some of the WRs see the field. Recently though just due to injuries they've had no choice but to play some of those guys. Walters has talked about it a couple of times in interviews.
At some point, it's on the players. Kade Warner had no problem learning ALL of the WR positions his first year with Frost. Yet guys like Woodyard seem to have problems learning one of the spots in 2 years. You can't spoon feed them unless you're a RB like Jarvis Redwine. Run towards that sideline and we'll pitch it to you Jarvis. They couldn't even tell him right or left. Walters and Frost have gone so far as to just give a certain number of plays for some guys and they still can't seem to execute their job.
Being a true freshman, Robinson didn't seem to have a problem learning the offense quickly. There's no excuse for not knowing the playbook period.
all of the reasons you stated are 20 years in the making, not 1.5.
That's a problem that the staff isn't holding players accountable enough to learn the scheme. You think Nick Saban would continue to play guys who didn't know what they're doing? You can't tell me the players Alabama recruits are smarter than our guys. I think it's an accountability issue rather than an intelligence issue if a large group of players don't know the scheme.
The question I ask is why were those guys playing in the first place? Sure it was a net positive when we ended up getting rid of players with bad attitudes like Lindsey and Bell. But those weren't the main reasons for the turnaround. The biggest reason we improved last year were the changes on the Oline and Amart getting healthy. I don't think getting rid of some of your better players midway through the 2nd year is going to help anything.
doesn't cure stupid
I can maybe see a Junior leaving but my gut tells me this is going to be more sophomores or redshirt freshmen if we have any left.
I was referring to a losing mentality and poor work ethic being the ‘Cancer’. Didn’t realize it was about Riley.
I’m actually in a camp that believes the losing mentality/poor work ethic/boneheaded play/lack of fundamentals has been around since Osborne left. I wish it would stop and it can with the right group of guys and culture. But it takes time to build that culture. I believe we have the right guy in charge. Has he been perfect? No, but I believe in time he’ll get the ship right.
It has always been a culture problem. People just got over hyped and had unrealistic expectations for how fast a crap program can turn around. I agree Frost is not blameless it all this, but the crap culture has always been here
UCF had no real prior culture to overcome, even though they were not winning. I think there is a lot of talent down here in Florida, you can find players all over the place, and no culture to fight against..
