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If Fyfe is the best QB we have right now, we're in big freaking trouble. I don't see why anyone would care about burning a redshirt now though, are we not trying to win the rest of our games? Who knows if POB will even be here in 3 years, who knows if he'll beat out Gebbia or Lee next year. Play the freaking kid, I guarantee you he'd have zero issues being named the starter next week (guarantee might be a strong word, but I'd bet a lot of money on it), so why would any of us care?
 
Last night was bad, really bad, so the below isn't to "cover" for Banker.

Rose-Ivey, on three separate 3rd downs, was put in a great position to make stops. He wasn't put there by falling over, he was put there by Banker's call. Each occassion, he failed to make the stop. Edge blitz, can't bring down Barrett for a 3-yard loss. Zone read, keeps his assignment and gets trucked over. Can't recall the third one, but pretty sure all three happened early enough, before the game was out of hand.

That's uncommon for Michael, he's usually a machine in instances like the above but for whatever reason, he didn't make the plays. Make one or two, and who knows what happens before it gets ugly.

Banker did stink last night, like a pack of skunks.

All I keep thinking about is MRI being out muscled on those 3 3rd downs and also another one where he had JT wrapped up for a sack but got owned. Those plays had major impacts on the outcome and momentum. tOSU likely beats us regardless but I believe it's a lot closer of a game if he makes those plays. At one point early tOSU was 7/8 on 3rd downs. I'm sure it was worse # at the end of the game but this team did have opportunities to get the Buckeyes off the field.

And it's not like converting 3rd and long has been tOSU MO all season. I unfortunately watched the game with a bunch of buckeye fans. All of them kept saying, " we never convert 3rd & 20's, we never convert 3rd & 8's". Their offense has struggled majorly the last few weeks and most of buckeye nation was frustrated with Warrener & Beck going into last night. Our D made them look good last night.
 
Not sure POB is ready for the big time as of today.
With our injury situation iit would be extremely unwise to pull his redshirt. Actually it shows Riley understands he can't give in to the pressure to make this horrible program decision and pull his shirt at this point.
 
"Douchebags" and "assholes."

Where do you stand with the Nebraska fanbase, sir? Or are you just that much more intelligent than the rest of us who don't like 62-3?

Inquiring minds want to hear your pompous opinion.
Pompous is the perfect description for Archie. He's an arrogant ass.
It's not crazy to expect us to be competitive when psu, whisky, and northwestern were. My goodness the Pelini blowouts still get talked about, they were horrible and everyone agrees, but for some reason this one doesn't deserve the same treatment??
People like Archie are the ones with bias, who can't wait to jump on the board and tell everyone how awful and stupid they are. Hypocrites.
 
Our AD said so himself...while winning games is nice, but winning games that matter is important. Last night was a game that mattered, big time, ....and we lost 62-3 and our "experienced" DC looked like a complete fool the entire night. I don't think many thought we could pull out the win but last night was an embarrassment of epic proportions.
I disagree to a degree on this. Yes, we gave up 62. How many times did we not get off the field on 3rd down when we had a RB seemingly stopped short, the QB bottled up but he broke free, or being in position to break up a pass but the ball being placed in perfect position?

I commented to a friend that Barrett's quick release and short-range precision was very impressive to see when you're used to watching Tommy's slow delivery and propensity to throw "YOLO balls". I love Tommy for his heart and leadership, but as someone pointed out earlier last week, you don't hear Riley compliment Tommy's passing skills and decision making very often.

Not trying to excuse the blowout. Just trying to point out we probably only lose by 35 or so instead of 59 if we get off the field on 3rd down a few times. Which now as I write that, is still very bad when you expected to be competitive.

Regarding QB recruiting, how nice would it be to have Borrow as a backup (heck, might even be starting for us)? I believe we were in his top 3 before he chose Ohio State.
 
we're in big time trouble with any qb that cant run. and i think it's fair to say that most of us, myself included, highly overrated our wr.
 
With our injury situation iit would be extremely unwise to pull his redshirt. Actually it shows Riley understands he can't give in to the pressure to make this horrible program decision and pull his shirt at this point.
So if he does it next week you'll be here saying what a great decision maker Riley is, right?
 
With our injury situation iit would be extremely unwise to pull his redshirt. Actually it shows Riley understands he can't give in to the pressure to make this horrible program decision and pull his shirt at this point.

I think it would be a great decision.
 
If Fyfe is the best QB we have right now, we're in big freaking trouble. I don't see why anyone would care about burning a redshirt now though, are we not trying to win the rest of our games? Who knows if POB will even be here in 3 years, who knows if he'll beat out Gebbia or Lee next year. Play the freaking kid, I guarantee you he'd have zero issues being named the starter next week (guarantee might be a strong word, but I'd bet a lot of money on it), so why would any of us care?
Fyfe is who we have because we have two quarterbacks that are unavailable to play. But we are so hurt that we are literally caught between a rock and a hard place. We can't run because our o-line is destroyed and we can't pass because our receivers are hurt too. Ozigbo has a banged up ankle so simply we're SCREWED.
 
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Just a crazy thought. Don't shoot me if its a pipe dream and silly one.

What about Darlington? If POB isn't ready, i can understand him not being an option. Fyfe has zero confidence and really isn't very good. Darlington played some QB on the practice squad this season and he's the closet thing on the roster to TA's skill set. So I'd imagine they could run the current offensive style better with Zack's athletic ability than with Fyfe and he's more mature then POB. I understand it's a desperate move but that's the reality of where this team is right now.

I get the concussion risk too but he must not be too worried about it if he's now a slot receiver. Slot is pretty risky for concussions too, so he must not be too worried about it.
 
What about Darlington?

Exactly what I'm thinking too. Unless I'm missing something, there's no reason Darlington doesn't, or shouldn't, have a couple packages available to him, even if it's just as a change of pace type thing to give the opposing defense another look.

And if there's some flow (success), it's no longer a change of pace, we have a new QB till Tommy is healthy.
 
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You can't do it now. Maybe at the beginning of the season but not now. It would reek of desperation and we are nowhere near that point program wise.

I've been far more accurate about this team this year than you have, by about a mile. If I'm also right about POB having no issues with it, then let's play the kid.
 
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I've been far more accurate about this team this year than you have, by about a mile. If I'm also right about POB having no issues with it, then let's play the kid.

From what I`ve been told, POB is not ready yet. Does that mean he won`t play I don`t know. RF certainly isn`t ready either.
 
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I've been far more accurate about this team this year than you have, by about a mile. If I'm also right about POB having no issues with it, then let's play the kid.
This is why I'm not going to fight the crazy talk anymore. Riley should just walk away and let the Scott Frost people win. He'll never be accepted.
 
Exactly what I'm thinking too. Unless I'm missing something, there's no reason Darlington doesn't, or shouldn't, have a couple packages available to him, even if it's just as a change of pace type thing to give the opposing defense another look.

And if there's some flow (success), it's no longer a change of pace, we have a new QB till Tommy is healthy.
Probably won't happen, but I like this idea as well. With Darlington's mobility, at least NU's opponents would have to game plan for something other than hand-offs and straight dropback passes being thrown with Division III precision.
 
This is why I'm not going to fight the crazy talk anymore. .

there is nothing more crazy than declaring that this team has "playoff" level talent ... nothing

anyone who would suggest this simply hasn't watched this team and doesn't know football in general ... she probably would do good job of waving her pom-poms on the sidelines, however
 
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The same clowns that shielded Bo for eight years and let him destroy the program want to cut Riley off at the knees.

Good job.
 
Since there are so many conflicting suggestions on what I am supposed to think, I guess I am stuck living with my own opinions.

I expected NU to lose last night. Something like 31-13. I did not expect a 59 point humiliation (note that I am using the term 'humiliation' in the context of sports - I was not personally humiliated nor is my lot in life changed by the outcome of this game, but thanks for caring). Last night was every bit as bad as the 3 blow-outs to Wisconsin, the earlier blow-out to OSU, and various other epic failures we've endured the past decade-plus. According to some in this thread, I was foolish to expect NU to be competitive last night.

One point of frustration is that NU took a big fat steamy dump on all of the favorable attention they received the previous week. How many times has this board lamented NU's lack of relevance the past 15 years? Well, NU was relevant. For 6 days. The next shot a relevance isn't likely to occur until next October, when NU once again faces Wisconsin and OSU in back-to-back games.

I hope Tommy Armstrong is cleared to play next week. I don't think NU will win any game without him at QB. It is hard to believe that Nebraska's QB depth chart is so fragile. It's been that way for a decade, it seems. There are many reasons for that, I suppose. One of which seems to be the previous staff's undervaluing of the QB position - or at least their inability to recruit more than one reasonable QB candidate every 4 years.
 
This is why I'm not going to fight the crazy talk anymore. Riley should just walk away and let the Scott Frost people win. He'll never be accepted.


You sound like a politician deflecting the subject. Last night's game has ZERO to do with Frost, did anyone besides you even bring him up anyway? I'm not going to read back through the whole thread, but it seems like you're kind of starting a wild theory here.
 
From what I`ve been told, POB is not ready yet. Does that mean he won`t play I don`t know. RF certainly isn`t ready either.

Uggh. If you're telling me Ryker is a better option, and I trust he is if you're telling me this, then I'm really bummed out. I also stand by my guns, based on what I've seen from Ryker, I'm playing him anyway if he wants to. Uggh.
 
Pompous is the perfect description for Archie. He's an arrogant ass.
It's not crazy to expect us to be competitive when psu, whisky, and northwestern were. My goodness the Pelini blowouts still get talked about, they were horrible and everyone agrees, but for some reason this one doesn't deserve the same treatment??
People like Archie are the ones with bias, who can't wait to jump on the board and tell everyone how awful and stupid they are. Hypocrites.

We were getting dominated with Tommy playing. When he went down anyone with a brain saw what was coming. And the fans that have been waiting for a loss like this can all take the train.
 
Uggh. If you're telling me Ryker is a better option, and I trust he is if you're telling me this, then I'm really bummed out. I also stand by my guns, based n what I've seen from Ryker, I'm playing him. Uggh.

That's my understanding as well. Sucks...
 
Well, NU was relevant. For 6 days. The next shot a relevance isn't likely to occur until next October, when NU once again faces Wisconsin and OSU in back-to-back games.

Relevant the week before as well, it wasn't excluded to this past week. I disagree with your "likely to occur" opinion. A 10-2 regular season has us on the top 10 fringe and a 11-2 season all but finishes us in the top 10. Heck, a 10-3 may be good enough for it.

Relevance, going forward, is worked on; game by game. As we've already witnessed, win and the rest takes care of itself.

Minnesota is step one.
 
Just a crazy thought. Don't shoot me if its a pipe dream and silly one.

What about Darlington? If POB isn't ready, i can understand him not being an option. Fyfe has zero confidence and really isn't very good. Darlington played some QB on the practice squad this season and he's the closet thing on the roster to TA's skill set. So I'd imagine they could run the current offensive style better with Zack's athletic ability than with Fyfe and he's more mature then POB. I understand it's a desperate move but that's the reality of where this team is right now.

I get the concussion risk too but he must not be too worried about it if he's now a slot receiver. Slot is pretty risky for concussions too, so he must not be too worried about it.

I don't think he's taken snap at QB for a long time. If that's the case, I don't think you can't just plug a guy in like that.
 
Uggh. If you're telling me Ryker is a better option, and I trust he is if you're telling me this, then I'm really bummed out. I also stand by my guns, based on what I've seen from Ryker, I'm playing him anyway if he wants to. Uggh.

Not sure RF is a better option at all from what Ive seen. I think the issue is not wanting to throw POB to the wolves. I would much rather see Darlington than RF.
 
I hope to hell TA is healthy and can go ... he gives us our best chance to win by an infinite margin

in short, our QB play is going to be less awful with TA behind center than anyone else
 
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Darlington? Good gawd, how bad does our #2 & #3 have to be to plug Darlington in? How long has it been since that guy took a live snap?

Regardless, it will be interesting, I guess I'll trust MR to do what gives us the best chance to win and leave it at that.
 
Darlington? Good gawd, how bad does our #2 & #3 have to be to plug Darlington in? How long has it been since that guy took a live snap?

Regardless, it will be interesting, I guess I'll trust MR to do what gives us the best chance to win and leave it at that.

You know the answer to #2. Let`s pray TA is cleared and ready to go.
 
On POB....I have no idea if he is better than Ryker Fyfe right now. I hope the answer to that questions is: "Yes, POB is definitely better than Fyfe." I really, really hope that is true.

If TA is done for the year, and POB is better than Fyfe, I think it's fine to pull his RS and throw him out there. NU has at least 4 games left, and an outside/slim shot at a 5th. If he starts 4-5 games, it's not a waste.

If TA just misses one game, we probably need to endure Fyfe this weekend and hope that the defense plays well enough to keep NU in the game, and that with a full week to prepare, NU can find a few things that Fyfe can do well.
 
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I would also prefer Darlington over POB. I don't like the idea of burning a player's redshirt 9 games into the season. It's short sighted and it feels like something that would come back to bite Nebraska a few seasons from now. I would feel especially awful if POB was a borderline NFL prospect that missed out on that opportunity because he played one game against Minnesota his freshman season.
 
I would also prefer Darlington over POB. I don't like the idea of burning a player's redshirt 9 games into the season. It's short sighted and it feels like something that would come back to bite Nebraska a few seasons from now. I would feel especially awful if POB was a borderline NFL prospect that missed out on that opportunity because he played one game against Minnesota his freshman season.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much it would matter. Our line can't block for shit.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure how much it would matter. Our line can't block for shit.

no argument .. we couldn't run the ball at all

neither of our QBs were sacked last night ... I am convinced that OSUs game plan was to encourage, let TA throw the ball .. they brought no pressure and I think there dline was instructed to play run no matter what and don't worry about rushing the passer

a teams best offense is to have TA throwing the ball
 
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