Matt Rhule Presser 11/14/24

[dinglefritz]

By the way, TO coached from 1972 - 1997, along the way he beat some great teams with great records, not one 11 win South Florida team.

1974 -1976 is 11% of TO's career, not his entire career.
Find me one person in this football world that will ever compare Matt Rhule to Tom Osborne.

This is a fun debate/discussion because the only one who can decide this is Rhule next year.

Tom took over a national champion with blue chip talent buried on the roster. There is no similaritiy between Rhule’s situation and Tom’s when they took over the program. It’s not apples to oranges. It’s apples to cabbage.

Kong has returned to his obsessive verbal abuse of Rhule and most of the staff and I’ve tired of the piling on. He’s addressed the OC situation so I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months. That’s a couple of months less than we gave Satterfield

 

[dinglefritz]

Baylor
2017 - lone win was against 1-11 Kansas
2018 - wins came against Abilene Christian, UTSA, Kansas, Kstate, Okstate, Texas Tech and Vanderbilt who had a combine record of 35-50 (0.412)
2019 - wins came against SFA, UTSA, Rice, Iowa State, Kstate, Texas Tech, Okstate, West Virginia, TCU, Texas, and Kansas who had a combined record of 58-78 (0.426)

So his entire tenure at Baylor was built of beating teams with combined records of 94-139 (0.403).

Congratulations, its nearly identical to his Temple tenure.

If Rhule loses the rest of the games this year (highly likely since he's a loser coach so far), he will have a career winning % of 0.496.

You play who is on your schedule and obviously when you include teams like UTSA, Rice and SFA you’re going to stack a lot of losers in your statistic. They beat some good teams that year.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Tom took over a national champion with blue chip talent buried on the roster. There is no similaritiy between Rhule’s situation and Tom’s when they took over the program. It’s not apples to oranges. It’s apples to cabbage.

Kong has returned to his obsessive verbal abuse of Rhule and most of the staff and I’ve tired of the piling on. He’s addressed the OC situation so I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months. That’s a couple of months less than we gave Satterfield

My point was, the poster took a random 3 year period of TO's and tried to compare it to a 3 year period, and TO's career extended well past any 3 year period.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

You play who is on your schedule and obviously when you include teams like UTSA, Rice and SFA you’re going to stack a lot of losers in your statistic. They beat some good teams that year.

You mean like the UTEPs, UNI's, Rutgers and Purdue's of the college football world?
Combined 10-27 this year. Include CU's 7-2 record and still 17-29.

 

[king_kong_]

I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months.

Perfect

Many more will join this refrain around halftime this afternoon, I’m afraid

 

[dinglefritz]

Perfect

Many more will join this refrain around halftime this afternoon, I’m afraid

Anybody who expecting a miraculous offensive turn around in 9 practices is an idiot.

 

[dinglefritz]

You mean like the UTEPs, UNI's, Rutgers and Purdue's of the college football world?
Combined 10-27 this year. Include CU's 7-2 record and still 17-29.

Rutgers and Purdue have way more talent now than those teams had then. Hell UTEP probably does too.

 

[timnsun]

It’s tough to be part of the silver lining crowd on this board when people want blood.

I get it. Still have some hope, but I get it.

 

[HuskerO]

I did

then you created your own bizarre parameter

then I could’ve been factually correct (again) and said top 15, 20, 25, etc

then I realized you needed to be bullied as a form of social conditioning, because you idiots did the same thing with Pelini, Riley and Frost when you were performing your mental gymnastics

How a team finishes ranked is some bizarre scenario? That is the one & only scenario. No one uses in-season rankings to determine end of the season success because how a team is ranked Week 1 - final week of the regular season as it doesn't really matter once the entire season plays out. My "bizarre scenario" shows consistency.

Example, 1976 season, when Nebraska played Texas Tech. Before the game TTech was ranked #9 and Nebraska #13. After the game, final season rankings, TTech #13 and Nebraska #7/#9.

Either Nebraska beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska wasn't a Top 10 team OR Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska was a Top 10 team. The latter is the correct answer by the way.

You cannot say that Nebraska beat a Top 10 team AND that they were a Top 10 team.

Bully? I'm sorry, but who's the one calling names again?

 

[beaglehusker]

Anybody who expecting a miraculous offensive turn around in 9 practices is an idiot.

So ignore everything up to this point. Nah. The HC is in charge and it's been a shit show from day 1. But you go on plant

 

[thall_]

How a team finishes ranked is some bizarre scenario? That is the one & only scenario. No one uses in-season rankings to determine end of the season success because how a team is ranked Week 1 - final week of the regular season doesn't really matter once the entire season plays out. My "bizarre scenario" shows consistency.

Example, 1976 season, when Nebraska played Texas Tech. Before the game TTech was ranked #9 and Nebraska #13. After the game, final season rankings, TTech #13 and Nebraska #7/#9.

Either Nebraska beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska wasn't a Top 10 team OR Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska was a Top 10 team. The latter is the correct answer by the way.

You cannot say that Nebraska beat a Top 10 team AND that they were a Top 10 team.

Bully? I'm sorry, but who's the one calling names again?

preseason rankings =/= end of regular season rankings and your attempt to conflate the two is frankly retarded given you’re ignoring 3 months of determining data.

also, that’s just not how it works, because according to your logic, nobody can ever beat the #1 overall team, since after beating them their ranking will change.

history will remember Vanderbilts win over Alabama as “Vanderbilt’s first win over the #1 overall team”.

 

[king_kong_]

It’s tough to be part of the silver lining crowd on this board when people want blood.

I get it. Still have some hope, but I get it.

pressure's off today

I expect literally nothing from our team and to get blown out

so anything but that will be a plus, at least in my eyes

 

[MissoulaHusker]

another first year coach punching his bowl ticket at UW, this time after a mass exodus of talent

sigh

Jedd Fisch seems like he’ll succeed there. If we could trade HCs with them I’d feel a lot better about things.

And Dannen hired him there. Hopefully he’s better than the last few ADs we’ve had.

 

[HuskerAlum92]

It’s tough to be part of the silver lining crowd on this board when people want blood.

I get it. Still have some hope, but I get it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlay...eason-with-the-nations-longest-bowl-droughts/

I just would just like to be excluded from articles like this. Rhule is 0-7 with bowl eligibility on the line, with good odds to make it 0-10 by season’s end. You can’t put lipstick on that pig.

 

[MissoulaHusker]

So ignore everything up to this point. Nah. The HC is in charge and it's been a shit show from day 1. But you go on plant

Agreed. Things are obviously not going to plan. Here’s to hoping DH brings his A game to NU and isn’t another guy looking for a fat paycheck from us and bringing less than max effort.

 

[HuskerO]

My point was, the poster took a random 3 year period of TO's and tried to compare it to a 3 year period, and TO's career extended well past any 3 year period.

I didn't have the energy to look up 25 years worth of Osborne's victories and those opponents winning records.

If you had to guess, what would that number (%) for Osborne be if spanned over his 25 year career?

 

[HuskerO]

preseason rankings =/= end of regular season rankings and your attempt to conflate the two is frankly retarded given you’re ignoring 3 months of determining data.

also, that’s just not how it works, because according to your logic, nobody can ever beat the #1 overall team, since after beating them their ranking will change.

history will remember Vanderbilts win over Alabama as “Vanderbilt’s first win over the #1 overall team”.

At no point am I conflating preseason rankings to end of regular season rankings. Just like I wouldn't conflate Week 5, Week 9, Week 12, etc to end of the regular season rankings.

The reason I brought up FSU was to point out that it's silly to base who you beat off of in-season rankings.

Shoot, take FSU out. How about Washington in Week 6. Will they be able to claim that they beat a Top 10 team?

So staying consistent and waiting to determine what ranked teams you actually beat, you use end-of-the-season rankings, and Nebraska from '74-'76 never beat a Top 10 team like what you claimed.

No, history will not remember that unless they look it up or Bama wins the whole thing or if you're a Vandy fan. Just like nobody remembers South Carolina beating Bama in 2010 except for South Carolina fans.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I didn't have the energy to look up 25 years worth of Osborne's victories and those opponents winning records.

If you had to guess, what would that number (%) for Osborne be if spanned over his 25 year career?

No idea, but I would bet its lower than either one of actually thinks.

If you weigh a loss to a 11-0 OU against wins against the 1-10 KU and KSU, it likely weighs a low number, right?

If I recall, other than 1992? when NU lost to Iowa State, a Tom Osborne team never lost to a team that had a losing record on the year.

So he would have heavily beaten teams with lots of losing season records which presumably would be larger than the number of teams they beat that had real good records.

I don't think anyone is gonna take the hours it would take to actually find that number.
I know I'm not.