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Matt Rhule Presser 11/14/24

By the way, TO coached from 1972 - 1997, along the way he beat some great teams with great records, not one 11 win South Florida team.

1974 -1976 is 11% of TO's career, not his entire career.
Find me one person in this football world that will ever compare Matt Rhule to Tom Osborne.

This is a fun debate/discussion because the only one who can decide this is Rhule next year.
Tom took over a national champion with blue chip talent buried on the roster. There is no similaritiy between Rhule’s situation and Tom’s when they took over the program. It’s not apples to oranges. It’s apples to cabbage.

Kong has returned to his obsessive verbal abuse of Rhule and most of the staff and I’ve tired of the piling on. He’s addressed the OC situation so I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months. That’s a couple of months less than we gave Satterfield
 
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2017 - lone win was against 1-11 Kansas
2018 - wins came against Abilene Christian, UTSA, Kansas, Kstate, Okstate, Texas Tech and Vanderbilt who had a combine record of 35-50 (0.412)
2019 - wins came against SFA, UTSA, Rice, Iowa State, Kstate, Texas Tech, Okstate, West Virginia, TCU, Texas, and Kansas who had a combined record of 58-78 (0.426)

So his entire tenure at Baylor was built of beating teams with combined records of 94-139 (0.403).

Congratulations, its nearly identical to his Temple tenure.

If Rhule loses the rest of the games this year (highly likely since he's a loser coach so far), he will have a career winning % of 0.496.
You play who is on your schedule and obviously when you include teams like UTSA, Rice and SFA you’re going to stack a lot of losers in your statistic. They beat some good teams that year.
 
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Tom took over a national champion with blue chip talent buried on the roster. There is no similaritiy between Rhule’s situation and Tom’s when they took over the program. It’s not apples to oranges. It’s apples to cabbage.

Kong has returned to his obsessive verbal abuse of Rhule and most of the staff and I’ve tired of the piling on. He’s addressed the OC situation so I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months. That’s a couple of months less than we gave Satterfield
My point was, the poster took a random 3 year period of TO's and tried to compare it to a 3 year period, and TO's career extended well past any 3 year period.
 
You play who is on your schedule and obviously when you include teams like UTSA, Rice and SFA you’re going to stack a lot of losers in your statistic. They beat some good teams that year.
You mean like the UTEPs, UNI's, Rutgers and Purdue's of the college football world?
Combined 10-27 this year. Include CU's 7-2 record and still 17-29.
 
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You mean like the UTEPs, UNI's, Rutgers and Purdue's of the college football world?
Combined 10-27 this year. Include CU's 7-2 record and still 17-29.
Rutgers and Purdue have way more talent now than those teams had then. Hell UTEP probably does too.
 
I did

then you created your own bizarre parameter

then I could’ve been factually correct (again) and said top 15, 20, 25, etc

then I realized you needed to be bullied as a form of social conditioning, because you idiots did the same thing with Pelini, Riley and Frost when you were performing your mental gymnastics
How a team finishes ranked is some bizarre scenario? That is the one & only scenario. No one uses in-season rankings to determine end of the season success because how a team is ranked Week 1 - final week of the regular season as it doesn't really matter once the entire season plays out. My "bizarre scenario" shows consistency.

Example, 1976 season, when Nebraska played Texas Tech. Before the game TTech was ranked #9 and Nebraska #13. After the game, final season rankings, TTech #13 and Nebraska #7/#9.

Either Nebraska beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska wasn't a Top 10 team OR Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska was a Top 10 team. The latter is the correct answer by the way.

You cannot say that Nebraska beat a Top 10 team AND that they were a Top 10 team.

Bully? I'm sorry, but who's the one calling names again?
 
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How a team finishes ranked is some bizarre scenario? That is the one & only scenario. No one uses in-season rankings to determine end of the season success because how a team is ranked Week 1 - final week of the regular season doesn't really matter once the entire season plays out. My "bizarre scenario" shows consistency.

Example, 1976 season, when Nebraska played Texas Tech. Before the game TTech was ranked #9 and Nebraska #13. After the game, final season rankings, TTech #13 and Nebraska #7/#9.

Either Nebraska beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska wasn't a Top 10 team OR Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech and Nebraska was a Top 10 team. The latter is the correct answer by the way.

You cannot say that Nebraska beat a Top 10 team AND that they were a Top 10 team.

Bully? I'm sorry, but who's the one calling names again?
preseason rankings =/= end of regular season rankings and your attempt to conflate the two is frankly retarded given you’re ignoring 3 months of determining data.

also, that’s just not how it works, because according to your logic, nobody can ever beat the #1 overall team, since after beating them their ranking will change.

history will remember Vanderbilts win over Alabama as “Vanderbilt’s first win over the #1 overall team”.
 
It’s tough to be part of the silver lining crowd on this board when people want blood.

I get it. Still have some hope, but I get it.
pressure's off today

I expect literally nothing from our team and to get blown out

so anything but that will be a plus, at least in my eyes
 
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So ignore everything up to this point. Nah. The HC is in charge and it's been a shit show from day 1. But you go on plant
Agreed. Things are obviously not going to plan. Here’s to hoping DH brings his A game to NU and isn’t another guy looking for a fat paycheck from us and bringing less than max effort.
 
My point was, the poster took a random 3 year period of TO's and tried to compare it to a 3 year period, and TO's career extended well past any 3 year period.
I didn't have the energy to look up 25 years worth of Osborne's victories and those opponents winning records.

If you had to guess, what would that number (%) for Osborne be if spanned over his 25 year career?
 
preseason rankings =/= end of regular season rankings and your attempt to conflate the two is frankly retarded given you’re ignoring 3 months of determining data.

also, that’s just not how it works, because according to your logic, nobody can ever beat the #1 overall team, since after beating them their ranking will change.

history will remember Vanderbilts win over Alabama as “Vanderbilt’s first win over the #1 overall team”.
At no point am I conflating preseason rankings to end of regular season rankings. Just like I wouldn't conflate Week 5, Week 9, Week 12, etc to end of the regular season rankings.

The reason I brought up FSU was to point out that it's silly to base who you beat off of in-season rankings.

Shoot, take FSU out. How about Washington in Week 6. Will they be able to claim that they beat a Top 10 team?

So staying consistent and waiting to determine what ranked teams you actually beat, you use end-of-the-season rankings, and Nebraska from '74-'76 never beat a Top 10 team like what you claimed.

No, history will not remember that unless they look it up or Bama wins the whole thing or if you're a Vandy fan. Just like nobody remembers South Carolina beating Bama in 2010 except for South Carolina fans.
 
I didn't have the energy to look up 25 years worth of Osborne's victories and those opponents winning records.

If you had to guess, what would that number (%) for Osborne be if spanned over his 25 year career?
No idea, but I would bet its lower than either one of actually thinks.

If you weigh a loss to a 11-0 OU against wins against the 1-10 KU and KSU, it likely weighs a low number, right?

If I recall, other than 1992? when NU lost to Iowa State, a Tom Osborne team never lost to a team that had a losing record on the year.

So he would have heavily beaten teams with lots of losing season records which presumably would be larger than the number of teams they beat that had real good records.

I don't think anyone is gonna take the hours it would take to actually find that number.
I know I'm not.
 
At no point am I conflating preseason rankings to end of regular season rankings. Just like I wouldn't conflate Week 5, Week 9, Week 12, etc to end of the regular season rankings.

The reason I brought up FSU was to point out that it's silly to base who you beat off of in-season rankings.

Shoot, take FSU out. How about Washington in Week 6. Will they be able to claim that they beat a Top 10 team?

So staying consistent and waiting to determine what ranked teams you actually beat, you use end-of-the-season rankings, and Nebraska from '74-'76 never beat a Top 10 team like what you claimed.

No, history will not remember that unless they look it up or Bama wins the whole thing or if you're a Vandy fan. Just like nobody remembers South Carolina beating Bama in 2010 except for South Carolina fans.

> “nobody will remember that”
> “immediately brings up something he remembers”

False equivalency, Nebraska played those teams in bowl games as a result of their respective rankings, because rankings and the context behind them are important.

And I remember that game just fine, you having the memory of a goldfish doesn’t create a universal rule.

No matter how you slice it, dying in the hill that Rhule should be compared to Tom Osborne is a brainlet argument.
 
It’s tough to be part of the silver lining crowd on this board when people want blood.

I get it. Still have some hope, but I get it.
I don’t see a silver lining in any of this but I’m not going to go scorched earth on the head coach like some. Obviously Rhule recognized Satt needed help last year. He tried to fix the situation with Thomas but it didn’t work. Now he’s trying Dana. At least he’s recognized the problems and is doing everything he can to correct them
 
pressure's off today

I expect literally nothing from our team and to get blown out

so anything but that will be a plus, at least in my eyes
I’m afraid you’re probably right. This USC team beat LSU and I think has lost 5 games by a total of 19 points. They’ve been better than us all year. 😕
 
> “nobody will remember that”
> “immediately brings up something he remembers”

False equivalency, Nebraska played those teams in bowl games as a result of their respective rankings, because rankings and the context behind them are important.

And I remember that game just fine, you having the memory of a goldfish doesn’t create a universal rule.

No matter how you slice it, dying in the hill that Rhule should be compared to Tom Osborne is a brainlet argument.
Hahaha!!! Did you know that there's a thing called Google where you can look stuff up that no one remembers?

Right, the context is that Nebraska beat a team that finished the season ranked outside the Top 10.

Let's say I concede this whole "Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech". What other Top 10 teams did Nebraska beat in those 3 years? I mean, you did say that Nebraska beat multiple Top 10 teams in those 3 years.

If you think I'm comparing Rhule to Osborne, then you need help my friend.
 
Let's say I concede this whole "Nebraska didn't beat a Top 10 team in Texas Tech". What other Top 10 teams did Nebraska beat in those 3 years? I mean, you did say that Nebraska beat multiple Top 10 teams in those 3 years.
1974: beat #8 Texas in the Cotton Bowl
1976: best #9 Texas Tech in their bowl game

Congratulations, now everyone knows you’re retarded
Congratulations, now everyone knows you can’t read.
 
Congratulations, now everyone knows you can’t read.
Wrong again. You were very specific in commenting that we beat multiple Top 10 teams in the '74-'76 season.

That Texas win was for the 1973 season.
 
Wrong again. You were very specific in commenting that we beat multiple Top 10 teams in the '74-'76 season.

That Texas win was for the 1973 season.
Hahaha shut the fųck up

Tom Osborne Jr. is getting worked by 4-5 USC right now, making you look even more stupid
 
Hahaha shut the fųck up

Tom Osborne Jr. is getting worked by 4-5 USC right now, making you look even more stupid
Even when I try to be a nice guy and concede to one of your idiotic points, you still end up being wrong.
 
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