Matt Rhule Presser 11/14/24

[itseasyas1-2-3]

WTF... the Nebraska media covering the Rhule press conferences are so weak. They're all on their knees bowing down to Rhule. Need a Peter Doocy type asking questions. See if they can get Rhule to lose his shit and throw something and then storm off.

I think every win by Foster, Sanders and Cignetti have shined the light more and more on Matt.

I can't imagine how Matt would begin to answer a press question like this,

"Looking at CU, IND, and UCLA, three completely different programs, three different personality types as their HC, all improving from week after week.
Everything they have, we have more and we have better.
Why are we having so much trouble getting this thing turned around?"

Now that would be a tough question to answer on the podium right now.

 

[weiddj]

I think every win by Foster, Sanders and Cignetti have shined the light more and more on Matt.

I can't imagine how Matt would begin to answer a press question like this,

"Looking at CU, IND, and UCLA, three completely different programs, three different personality types as their HC, all improving from week after week.
Everything they have, we have more and we have better.
Why are we having so much trouble getting this thing turned around?"

Now that would be a tough question to answer on the podium right now.

Cignetti is an issue for any first or second year coach not showing real significant improvement.

Not just Rhule having issues with this.

 

[scarletred]

"great week of practice" feels very Frost-like.

"Riley is the best in the business" feels like he's already resigned to losing.

You can’t deny that he isn’t one of the best offensive minds in college football..

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Cignetti is an issue for any first or second year coach not showing real significant improvement.

Not just Rhule having issues with this.

Thanks Matt.

 

[redwine65]

Thanks Matt.

cig might be a flash in the pan with the transfers, time will tell

 

[phoenix4nu]

cig might be a flash in the pan with the transfers, time will tell

He’s won everywhere he’s been.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

He’s won everywhere he’s been.

So had Lance Leipold

 

[Lincoln100]

I like Rhule's demeanor and persona, it seems to fit the role as HC and can be a great asset. But, no doubt his eye for talent may be lacking; that, or he does have an eye for talent, but the talent, for one reason or another, doesn't want to join the team.

 

[dinglefritz]

In a market so heavily dominated by NU sports, you will never find media willing to risk being frozen out by NU coaches. So a few of them may grumble on podcasts and YouTube videos but almost all of their questions directed to coaches are soft as Charmin.

Former Husker players not named Damon are a great source. Sirles had a great segment on 590 the other day. He’s not a Satt fan.

 

[dinglefritz]

I like Rhule's demeanor and persona, it seems to fit the role as HC and can be a great asset. But, no doubt his eye for talent may be lacking; that, or he does have an eye for talent, but the talent, for one reason or another, doesn't want to join the team.

Fix the OC and that IMO is going to fix a lot. We still have some walk ons playing too many minutes on D with a 4th year making huge costly mental mistakes on simple plays. We have plenty of talent to be an 8-9 win team this year. A freshman QB coupled with an underperforming OC has killed us. TW has gotten outschemed at times too but that’s going to happen sometimes.

 

[nostromo78]

I think every win by Foster, Sanders and Cignetti have shined the light more and more on Matt.

I can't imagine how Matt would begin to answer a press question like this,

"Looking at CU, IND, and UCLA, three completely different programs, three different personality types as their HC, all improving from week after week.
Everything they have, we have more and we have better.
Why are we having so much trouble getting this thing turned around?"

Now that would be a tough question to answer on the podium right now.

Every fxcking year there are coaches that pop out and have great seasons, then totally disappear for the rest of their lives. Every year. Go back and you can find all the examples. Do you think IU is gonna become a powerhouse? Or UCLA, or CU? Do you think Deion is gonna stick around when his kid leaves? What happens to those programs when these coaches leave? Are kids gonna line up to make IU a blueblood in football? UCLA? Never. Foster will have a decent end of the year, come back next year and be another meh team, be fired in about 3 years and will never be heard from again. Cignetti will come back next year, might do ok, but will eventually flop and disappear just like Tom Allen did.

Its the QB. They make every coach look better. We have the opportunity to take ours and make him very good. After that, who knows. Cignetti and Sanders will see significantly less wins next year if they are still coaching these teams with new QBs. I dont care about UCLA. They are never going to be relevant.

 

[king_kong_]

Every fxcking year there are coaches that pop out and have great seasons, then totally disappear for the rest of their lives. Every year. Go back and you can find all the examples. Do you think IU is gonna become a powerhouse? Or UCLA, or CU? Do you think Deion is gonna stick around when his kid leaves? What happens to those programs when these coaches leave? Are kids gonna line up to make IU a blueblood in football? UCLA? Never. Foster will have a decent end of the year, come back next year and be another meh team, be fired in about 3 years and will never be heard from again. Cignetti will come back next year, might do ok, but will eventually flop and disappear just like Tom Allen did.

Its the QB. They make every coach look better. We have the opportunity to take ours and make him very good. After that, who knows. Cignetti and Sanders will see significantly less wins next year if they are still coaching these teams with new QBs. I dont care about UCLA. They are never going to be relevant.

Yes

We, meanwhile, are on a championship trajectory and doing it “the right way”.

Perhaps this will finally be the year we don’t need to replace a coach less than 6 weeks prior to the season starting

 

[dinglefritz]

Every fxcking year there are coaches that pop out and have great seasons, then totally disappear for the rest of their lives. Every year. Go back and you can find all the examples. Do you think IU is gonna become a powerhouse? Or UCLA, or CU? Do you think Deion is gonna stick around when his kid leaves? What happens to those programs when these coaches leave? Are kids gonna line up to make IU a blueblood in football? UCLA? Never. Foster will have a decent end of the year, come back next year and be another meh team, be fired in about 3 years and will never be heard from again. Cignetti will come back next year, might do ok, but will eventually flop and disappear just like Tom Allen did.

Its the QB. They make every coach look better. We have the opportunity to take ours and make him very good. After that, who knows. Cignetti and Sanders will see significantly less wins next year if they are still coaching these teams with new QBs. I dont care about UCLA. They are never going to be relevant.

Lots of truth there but guys like Leach could make a QB look good enough to get him drafted and then he wouldn’t do much in the NFL. Cignetti’s backup looked damned good too. Coaching maybe matters more for a QB than any other position on the field.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

His true colors are showing. This is the Big 10 and it's cut-throat. Not many people realize that 75% of his wins throughout his head coaching career were against teams with a losing record.

I don't have a good feeling about Rhule.

I have too much time on my hands, so I couldn't resist. BTW, your statement that 75% of Matt's wins came against teams with losing records is not 100% correct, but it's damn close...

Also, I'm not gonna do Baylor cause I doubt the final results are that much different than at Temple, and besides in the 3 years at Baylor his teams overall were 19-20.

I went back and looked at Matt's 4 years at Temple to see how his teams fared against teams with winning records vs. losing records. I didn't include 2 teams (Delaware State and Stony Brook, cause it wouldn't make any difference if they had a winning or losing record since they are nowhere near D-1 level).

In the 4 year period, Temple went 28-23 and I eliminated Del State and Stony from the #'s.

So that would mean 26 games that Temple won, less those 2 teams:
They beat a total of 6 teams with a losing record;
They beat 20 teams with a losing record.

23% against winners and 77% against teams with losing records.

 

[king_kong_]

I have too much time on my hands, so I couldn't resist. BTW, your statement that 75% of Matt's wins came against teams with losing records is not 100% correct, but it's damn close...

Also, I'm not gonna do Baylor cause I doubt the final results are that much different than at Temple, and besides in the 3 years at Baylor his teams overall were 19-20.

I went back and looked at Matt's 4 years at Temple to see how his teams fared against teams with winning records vs. losing records. I didn't include 2 teams (Delaware State and Stony Brook, cause it wouldn't make any difference if they had a winning or losing record since they are nowhere near D-1 level).

In the 4 year period, Temple went 28-23 and I eliminated Del State and Stony from the #'s.

So that would mean 26 games that Temple won, less those 2 teams:
They beat a total of 6 teams with a losing record;
They beat 20 teams with a losing record.

23% against winners and 77% against teams with losing records.

Only a true blockhead could be swept off his feet by a guy with this track record

 

[Hoboken Joe]

In a market so heavily dominated by NU sports, you will never find media willing to risk being frozen out by NU coaches. So a few of them may grumble on podcasts and YouTube videos but almost all of their questions directed to coaches are soft as Charmin.

Yep. That is what was so perplexing about Pelini's adversarial relationship with the press and 'us against them' mentality.

The next tough question our media asks of a coach will be the first. It's just not in their DNA.

 

[Hoboken Joe]

cig might be a flash in the pan with the transfers, time will tell

Maybe, maybe not.

Frost had an undefeated season once. Mel Tucker went 11-2 once at MSU.

 

[Lincoln100]

Fix the OC and that IMO is going to fix a lot. We still have some walk ons playing too many minutes on D with a 4th year making huge costly mental mistakes on simple plays. We have plenty of talent to be an 8-9 win team this year. A freshman QB coupled with an underperforming OC has killed us. TW has gotten outschemed at times too but that’s going to happen sometimes.

By “talent” I don’t just mean the players. Getting a good OC will do a lot, but can Rhule figure out the right OC? And if so, can he get him here? Maybe we will get lucky and DH is the guy and will stick around for a while

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

cig might be a flash in the pan with the transfers, time will tell

I remember another B10 foe who had early success this way, but then he got caught with his pants down on the phone.

 

[BTF69]

In a market so heavily dominated by NU sports, you will never find media willing to risk being frozen out by NU coaches. So a few of them may grumble on podcasts and YouTube videos but almost all of their questions directed to coaches are soft as Charmin.

Yeah, the local media is in a very weird spot here.

Fans are soooo loyal to the program that if the media guys "get tough" the fans tend to attack them. Even if the questions they ask and the things they say are fair.

Podcast guys seem to have a little more wiggle room. But even when those guys are on the radio as guests you can tell that they are less negative at times.

 

[HuskerO]

His true colors are showing. This is the Big 10 and it's cut-throat. Not many people realize that 75% of his wins throughout his head coaching career were against teams with a losing record.

I don't have a good feeling about Rhule.

But with teams that were trash too.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

He’s won everywhere he’s been.

He was 19-20 zt Baylor.

 

[Walleye79]

He was 19-20 zt Baylor.

Didn’t know Cig coached at Baylor

 

[Landomatic]

Every fxcking year there are coaches that pop out and have great seasons, then totally disappear for the rest of their lives. Every year. Go back and you can find all the examples. Do you think IU is gonna become a powerhouse? Or UCLA, or CU? Do you think Deion is gonna stick around when his kid leaves? What happens to those programs when these coaches leave? Are kids gonna line up to make IU a blueblood in football? UCLA? Never. Foster will have a decent end of the year, come back next year and be another meh team, be fired in about 3 years and will never be heard from again. Cignetti will come back next year, might do ok, but will eventually flop and disappear just like Tom Allen did.

Its the QB. They make every coach look better. We have the opportunity to take ours and make him very good. After that, who knows. Cignetti and Sanders will see significantly less wins next year if they are still coaching these teams with new QBs. I dont care about UCLA. They are never going to be relevant.

You might be right but you might be wrong. Sure, there are much higher odds of all these guys flaming out than becoming the next Saban for LSU or Urban for Florida. But those do happen.

I predict Cignetti moves on from Indiana. He's not getting any younger and he'll be a hot commodity for a football power school this year.

I was starting to buy into Deion moving on when his kids are gone. However, I just heard he's predicted to flip one of the top QB recruits, so that would indicate that he's staying.

UCLA, I agree is just UCLA. I don't think that coach is really in the conversation other than he's a first year coach who beat us. The other two could actually end up being the next great coaches

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Yeah, the local media is in a very weird spot here.

Fans are soooo loyal to the program that if the media guys "get tough" the fans tend to attack them. Even if the questions they ask and the things they say are fair.

Podcast guys seem to have a little more wiggle room. But even when those guys are on the radio as guests you can tell that they are less negative at times.

If I remember correctly, many years ago one of the main Sports writer's for the World Herald started taking TO to task for not winning the big one, etc. It didn't take long before he was no longer a Sports writer but instead was publishing all the rummage sales or some other non important job there. I think his name was Olson? It's been quite a few years.

 

[BTF69]

If I remember correctly, many years ago one of the main Sports writer's for the World Herald started taking TO to task for not winning the big one, etc. It didn't take long before he was no longer a Sports writer but instead was publishing all the rummage sales or some other non important job there. I think his name was Olson? It's been quite a few years.

Probably!

I don't remember but I would not doubt it.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Didn’t know Cig coached at Baylor

We've had 3 different guys responding as apologists for Rhule, I have them on Ignore, so I'm just saying Rhule hasn't won everywhere he's been but I think we know Cig has.

Even a minimal examination of Rhule's actual coaching record is underwhelming. Even coaches with big records tend to feast on wins against losing opponents.

What was TO's overall record against KU, KSU, ISU and CU? 80-5 or something like that? Something and 0 against KU and KSU, something and 2 or 3 against ISU, and I suppose CU under McCartney won a few vs. TO.

 

[RedMyMind]

I have too much time on my hands, so I couldn't resist. BTW, your statement that 75% of Matt's wins came against teams with losing records is not 100% correct, but it's damn close...

Also, I'm not gonna do Baylor cause I doubt the final results are that much different than at Temple, and besides in the 3 years at Baylor his teams overall were 19-20.

I went back and looked at Matt's 4 years at Temple to see how his teams fared against teams with winning records vs. losing records. I didn't include 2 teams (Delaware State and Stony Brook, cause it wouldn't make any difference if they had a winning or losing record since they are nowhere near D-1 level).

In the 4 year period, Temple went 28-23 and I eliminated Del State and Stony from the #'s.

So that would mean 26 games that Temple won, less those 2 teams:
They beat a total of 6 teams with a losing record;
They beat 20 teams with a losing record.

23% against winners and 77% against teams with losing records.

Very Pelini-esque

 

[dinglefritz]

He was 19-20 zt Baylor.

Now analyze it by year. It changes the numbers significantly if you eliminate even his his first year of taking over those programs that were in shambles.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Pretty much the same feelings.

I know it must be hard for a guy who likes to talk as much as Rhule does, and our fanbase who likes hearing about football as much as we do - for Rhule to learn not to promise much at all when he talks. No more "we had a championship mindset" and "we want other teams to fear us." It doesn't play well when we fall flat on our face.

He finally quit using the term "elite" and now only uses it when talking about Riley as an elite play caller or their RB is an elite RB.

We need to do something about those single digit players who are no longer performing. It should almost be a game to game thing.

 

[dinglefritz]

I think every win by Foster, Sanders and Cignetti have shined the light more and more on Matt.

I can't imagine how Matt would begin to answer a press question like this,

"Looking at CU, IND, and UCLA, three completely different programs, three different personality types as their HC, all improving from week after week.
Everything they have, we have more and we have better.
Why are we having so much trouble getting this thing turned around?"

Now that would be a tough question to answer on the podium right now.

All 3 of those guys have better OCs than Satterfield. I’ll give Rhule credit to Rhule for recognizing the problem last fall and trying to fix by hiring a new QB coach/ co-OC. He tried to hire DH last spring.

 

[Landomatic]

All 3 of those guys have better OCs than Satterfield. I’ll give Rhule credit to Rhule for recognizing the problem last fall and trying to fix by hiring a new QB coach/ co-OC. He tried to hire DH last spring.

Do we know that? I know he was in town and in talks. Did he pass on us or did we pass on him? Have always wondered why it didn't happen in the offseason, which is the traditional time for those things, but it did happen mid-season which is very unorthodox? What changed? It almost reads like DH wanted X money and we wouldn't pay it so it fell apart. Then after UCLA, they said, "fine give DH whatever he wants and get him up here"

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Now analyze it by year. It changes the numbers significantly if you eliminate even his his first year of taking over those programs that were in shambles.

I already did that, just didn't post it.

2013 beat Army and Memphis both 3-9. (6-18)

2014. beat Vandy and Tulane both 3-9, UConn and Tulane 2-10, E. Carolina 8-5. (14-23)

2015 beat UCF 0-12, SMU and Charlotte each 2-10, UMass and Tulane both 3-9, E. Carolina 5-7,
UConn 6-7, PSU and Cincy both 7-6, Memphis 9-4. (34-75)

2016 beat E. Carolina and UConn 3-9, Charlotte, Tulane and Cincy all 4-8, SMU 5-7, UCF 6-7,
Navy 9-5, U So. Fla 11-2. (49-63)

Total record of ALL the teams they beat 6-18, 14-23, 34-75, 49-63;
103-179...(34.5%) ..You can't massage these numbers. Like I said, Im not doing Baylor, but if you eliminate his first year at Temple it still comes back 97-161...(37.5%) Only changes the overall record by 3%.....

(Next time, it's a commission job dingle, remember I was an accountant in the military?) LOL.

 

[dinglefritz]

I already did that, just didn't post it.

2013 beat Army and Memphis both 3-9. (6-18)

2014. beat Vandy and Tulane both 3-9, UConn and Tulane 2-10, E. Carolina 8-5. (14-23)

2015 beat UCF 0-12, SMU and Charlotte each 2-10, UMass and Tulane both 3-9, E. Carolina 5-7,
UConn 6-7, PSU and Cincy both 7-6, Memphis 9-4. (34-75)

2016 beat E. Carolina and UConn 3-9, Charlotte, Tulane and Cincy all 4-8, SMU 5-7, UCF 6-7,
Navy 9-5, U So. Fla 11-2. (49-63)

Total record of ALL the teams they beat 6-18, 14-23, 34-75, 49-63;
103-179.....You can't massage these numbers.

(Next time, it's a commission job dingle).

Now while at Baylor? 😉. Baylor’s situation is a much better comparison to ours. Temple has been a trash program for all of modern history.

 

[dinglefritz]

Do we know that? I know he was in town and in talks. Did he pass on us or did we pass on him? Have always wondered why it didn't happen in the offseason, which is the traditional time for those things, but it did happen mid-season which is very unorthodox? What changed? It almost reads like DH wanted X money and we wouldn't pay it so it fell apart. Then after UCLA, they said, "fine give DH whatever he wants and get him up here"

It was pretty obvious to all observers. You don’t parade a guy around Lincoln if he isn’t someone you’re trying to hire. Logically I believe it would have been for the same title that Thomas later agreed to. IF I’m Dana there’s no way I come to NU to be a co-OC.

 

[king_kong_]

Do we know that? I know he was in town and in talks. Did he pass on us or did we pass on him? Have always wondered why it didn't happen in the offseason, which is the traditional time for those things, but it did happen mid-season which is very unorthodox? What changed? It almost reads like DH wanted X money and we wouldn't pay it so it fell apart. Then after UCLA, they said, "fine give DH whatever he wants and get him up here"

It’s clear Dana wanted a job

Given Rhule’s track record, it’s safe to assume he botched it

 

[king_kong_]

It was pretty obvious to all observers. You don’t parade a guy around Lincoln if he isn’t someone you’re trying to hire. Logically I believe it would have been for the same title that Thomas later agreed to. IF I’m Dana there’s no way I come to NU to be a co-OC.

Your lipstick supply for Rhule (pig) appears to be endless.

 

[GaRed]

Matt has a ton of "tells." His words do not match his body language.
He's a very unsure guy right now.

Just watch that 8+ minute video and slow it down to 75% and see if his body language matches his words, because they don't.

He does all the classic mannerisms that are pretty easy to read. Purses his lips, shifts from left foot to right foot and back, very steady when he's giving legitimate praise, stays still when he is answering or explaining something easy, says yes while his head is shaking no, shakes his head more pronouncely no as his words are saying yes, looks down at the floor a lot, forces himself to smile when he heaps praise on Dana.

Doesn't give the bubbly "Thanks guys!!" as he heads off the mic.

He obviously feels a ton of pressure.

He looks like an unsure, beaten fighter.

Yeah he's like everyone else. We have some good players, great facilities, fan support, admin support, decent coaches, but this place is weirdly off,,,,WTF.

 

[dinglefritz]

Your lipstick supply for Rhule (pig) appears to be endless.

Your obsessive anger towards Rhule seems endless. 😉

 

[king_kong_]

Your obsessive anger towards Rhule seems endless. 😉

It’s not anger, it’s observation.

I’ve just called it like I’ve seen it.