Yet the quality of opponent wins Rhule had at Temple were better than the quality of opponent wins Osborne had from '74-'76.
Surely we're not suggesting that Rhule at Temple was better than Osborne at Nebraska from '74-'76, right?
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Surely we're not suggesting that Rhule at Temple was better than Osborne at Nebraska from '74-'76, right?
By the way, TO coached from 1972 - 1997, along the way he beat some great teams with great records, not one 11 win South Florida team.
1974 -1976 is 11% of TO's career, not his entire career.
Find me one person in this football world that will ever compare Matt Rhule to Tom Osborne.
This is a fun debate/discussion because the only one who can decide this is Rhule next year.
Nebraska from ‘74 - ‘76: finished in the top 10 each year, beat multiple top 10 teams.
@HuskerO, what a loser & crappy poster
Exactly. There's so much more than just the data and/or numbers to take into consideration. That's the point I'm trying to bring home (even if I'm doing so poorly).
Your last sentence, I agree 100%.
I gotta be honest with you, I'm responding to about 6 different posters, so things get fuzzy.
I absolutely could care less about Deion or how they're doing. I'm looking at numbers on different sites then coming back here and trying to apply what I learned and I'm in lots of different posts right now just trying to answer objections or different points of view. Its getting muddled.
No doubt this is a different situation for Rhule. This is not Temple or Baylor and this is a football school that has had a long history of winning but a more recent history of losing. Everyone of us wants the RIGHT guy, whoever that is.
NIL, transfer portal, huge budgets, great facilities, etc make this totally different for Rhule, so why would we think that what has been true in the past will remain true? There are so many things systemically wrong with this program, and I don't any of us even know what a lot of those reason are. I know I don't.
The coaches we've tried, the amount of money generated, the Taj Mahal of facilities, unbelievable state wide support for the program....yet nothing. As dingle said from the fan reaction at the UCLA game the level of apprehension and dissatisfaction is becoming a lot more vocal. In the event the Huskers lose to USC tomorrow and things start to go south in the WIsky game, its not gonna be pretty.
People, certainly not all, are getting tired of the emotional (voluntary of course) letdowns that seem to permeate this program and as fans, we'd kinda like to see it stop. Nothing we say on this board has one iota chance of changing anything. But hope left the building until something concrete is in place.
I thought we were discussing how shallow wins were against bad opponents? Also,
1974: beat no one who finished in the top 10
1975: beat no one who finished in the top 10
1976: beat no one who finished in the top 10
Good call, haha!!!
Neither of us is taking this personally, and I really like that cause I got myself posting back with a few guys and I'm in the proverbial center of circular crossfire. LOL
You as well as others are making good points, and if we agree or not, a solid, partisan/non-partisan discussion is really good for some of us considering the bye week with the underlying reason that we all feel a little pressure/angst/optimism for NU to actually do something good tomorrow.
Hopefully we can shut down this discussion before long and get ready for some football on tv tonight.
Keep up the good exchange, we've all made valid points to add to this discussion.
1974: beat #8 Texas in the Cotton Bowl
1976: best #9 Texas Tech in their bowl game
Congratulations, now everyone knows you’re retarded
the "strong B1G"
here are the records of our conference opponents:
6-3 (ILL) - LOSS
1-8 (Pur) - WIN
5-4 (Rut) - WIN
10-0 (Ind) - LOSS
9-1 (OSU) - LOSS
3-5 (UCLA - LOSS
4-5 (USC) - ???
5-4 (Wisc) - ???
6-4 (iowa) - ???
not exactly a murderer's row
take out indiana and ohio state and we're still just .500 against pretty crappy opponents that would be pretty crappy in any conference
Yeah, they didn't finish in the Top 10. That's what matters.
Otherwise you'd be stating that Georgia Tech beat a Top 10 team in Florida St this year, hahaha!!
What is your fascination of taking 3 years of TO's career against Top Ten teams when I'm using Rhule against Top 25 teams? Not the same thing and those coaches come from different universes.
Why don't you do the '93 - '95 NU version? I can't go much farther on this one, cause I look up and I have 13 other replies in my Alert box. LOL
I'm not the one who said the BIG10 was stronger.... My comment was in response to post #105
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It’s clear Dana wanted a job Given Rhule’s track record, it’s safe to assume he botched it If not offering to demote or fire Satt at that point in time then yeah he botched it. Dana wasn’t going to come to NU to help Satt call plays. I understand the concern with Rhule but he’s made the...
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EDIT: I guess I was the one who said stronger. I thought 123 did, my bad. But I'm pretty sure he was implying it..
The thing that's cool is you're a Offensive Coordinator and I'm a Defensive Coordinator, so this like a game within the game. We both continue to make "in-game" adjustments. LOL
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Thanks for the input, I'm using some of that in my thought process for next year's season.
Before we played Tech in the bowl game we were ranked #13. After we won, we were ranked #9 (AP) & #7 (Coaches).
So did we finish in the Top 10 or no? To me, the answer would be yes, even though we had to win the final game to get there.
Not answereing for kong, but the way I look at it is how they finished including the bowl game.
Sorry not anymore the red flags are very obvious. Doesn't matter what think he's going to get at least 3 years anyway
They finished the regular season in the top 10, not week 1.
But you knew that, and you’re embarrassed that your retarded argument fell apart so quickly
hahaha!!! 🤪
No, you said that Nebraska "beat multiple top 10 teams" from '74-'76. We literally beat no one who finished in the Top 10 in those 3 years.
I'm not dogging those Nebraska seasons. Just pointing out that your comment was incorrect.
Not only are you wrong, you’re wrong and stupid.
Dangerous combination, and unfortunately common around here.
Great point- because he’s being exposed as a career 2-21 coach against REAL teams
Yet, you have provided 0 evidence to back up your claim.
Which is why your resorting to personal insults. This happens with most poorly thought out arguments.
I did
then you created your own bizarre parameter
then I could’ve been factually correct (again) and said top 15, 20, 25, etc
then I realized you needed to be bullied as a form of social conditioning, because you idiots did the same thing with Pelini, Riley and Frost when you were performing your mental gymnastics
I understand that. His 3rd year at Ba
I understand that. His 3rd year at Baylor is an important data point.
Step 1…Get rid of the dead weight on this roster! We need more motivated Football players and less pretenders.
another first year coach punching his bowl ticket at UW, this time after a mass exodus of talent
sigh
sigh
Tom took over a national champion with blue chip talent buried on the roster. There is no similaritiy between Rhule’s situation and Tom’s when they took over the program. It’s not apples to oranges. It’s apples to cabbage.
Kong has returned to his obsessive verbal abuse of Rhule and most of the staff and I’ve tired of the piling on. He’s addressed the OC situation so I’m going to watch and see what happens over the next 13 months. That’s a couple of months less than we gave Satterfield
You play who is on your schedule and obviously when you include teams like UTSA, Rice and SFA you’re going to stack a lot of losers in your statistic. They beat some good teams that year.
Baylor
2017 - lone win was against 1-11 Kansas
2018 - wins came against Abilene Christian, UTSA, Kansas, Kstate, Okstate, Texas Tech and Vanderbilt who had a combine record of 35-50 (0.412)
2019 - wins came against SFA, UTSA, Rice, Iowa State, Kstate, Texas Tech, Okstate, West Virginia, TCU, Texas, and Kansas who had a combined record of 58-78 (0.426)
So his entire tenure at Baylor was built of beating teams with combined records of 94-139 (0.403).
Congratulations, its nearly identical to his Temple tenure.
If Rhule loses the rest of the games this year (highly likely since he's a loser coach so far), he will have a career winning % of 0.496.
My point was, the poster took a random 3 year period of TO's and tried to compare it to a 3 year period, and TO's career extended well past any 3 year period.
You mean like the UTEPs, UNI's, Rutgers and Purdue's of the college football world?
Combined 10-27 this year. Include CU's 7-2 record and still 17-29.
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Perfect
Many more will join this refrain around halftime this afternoon, I’m afraid
