Coach Williams in big time trouble now....

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Listen as a third party observer here, I would just like to remind ever one its an internet message board about college sports. If you have to get this worked up about something, its time to just slide back from the computer and walk away for a while.

There is more to life than this board. You can come back at me abrasively if it makes you feel better, but I come from good intention and with no ill will towards you. I enjoy your posting, but it seems like you are to close to see things objectively.

Peace.

Too close? Like when someone insults my Father after I defend a new recruit from an opposing teams fan talking crap on them? Stick to being a 3rd party. Metalhead can't even own banning me with no explanation, and leaving direct threats towards me up.
Pretty simple really. Maybe take a step back if you cannot see why someone continually attacking my family, and then expecting to not being returned to in kind is maybe just a bit frustrating.
Especially when the mod comes back and gets offended because my opinion is different than his.

 

[aft_lizard01]

Quickly assuming Williams has an alcohol problem without knowing him seems like an extreme assumption.

Call me crazy but if you get three dui's then you have an alcohol problem. You don't have to be an everyday drunk to have problems controlling your alcohol intake.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

That's not surprising coming from the guy who loves to judge and personally attack others on a message board.

I would like to point out that in no way, shape, or form did I call Williams even close to what some in this thread have, and I am who the mod decided to come after. Go read the thread. Apparently only when I give the differing opinion from said mod is when he needs to chime in.

 

[headcard]

Riley mentioned intervention and education multiple times in his interview. Doesn't sound like he has decided to definitely let him go, not that it will be entirely his decision.

 

[GBRhuskers]

Show me what I did on this thread previous to deserve the mod coming after me when he did. Thanks in advance. Seems like you have problems being objective, like you expect me to be.

STOP, please just STOP. You're ruining this thread and it's a good one.

 

[Dean Pope]

Not sure of exact tweet but many OSU fans and a certain OSU WR's coach have been tweeting some childish crap and guys like Bookie and Lindsay have all had Coach Dub's back. Some people need to grow up.

Doesn't surprise me. I don't know either of those kids, but while observing from afar, I have become a fan of both and I will continue to be regardless of what school they attend.

 

[HuskerMike85]

I didn't start it, and you just called me out. That is against board rules. I was called out by a mod who cannot accept a differing opinion. Same mod who banned be with no explanation before. Seems like this could have been handled on the direct message system. He must not know how to use it since he ran from what he did before.

And now you're lying. I just looked at your waring history and I have never given you a warning/ban once.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

And now you're lying. I just looked at your waring history and I have never given you a warning/ban once.

Then who was it? And why can't you do this on the message system? Instead you gripe about my opinion and call me out. Pretty much exactly what you are telling me makes me such a bad guy.

 

[HuskerO]

It's not the reality. You are literally the only person I have seen trying to connect the two. I searched every possible article, blog post, message board thread I could find. Nowhere else does anybody even mention what happened 3 weeks ago in connection with this incident. Don't you think if that was significant you would find somebody else mentioning it? Something appended to the end of an article like "this comes 3 weeks after another incident with a car that killed a member of the Husker football team". But it's not there. Why? Because there is no connection with the two. It cheapens and lessens the impact of what happened 3 weeks ago to try to connect the two in any way.

1) You're coming off as being offended and I'm sure that isn't RedLaws intention; to cheapen what happened to SF or even saying that the 2 incidents are connected.

2) All RedLaw is suggesting (imo) is that it's possible that public pressure in KW case can be increased because of what happened recently to SF. People may still be emotional about SF's death so their reasoning may currently be different in KW case where if SF's death didn't happen those reasoning's may be different.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

1) You're coming off as being offended and I'm sure that isn't RedLaws intention; to cheapen what happened to SF or even saying that the 2 incidents are connected.

2) All RedLaw is suggesting (imo) is that it's possible that public pressure in KW case can be increased because of what happened recently to SF. People may still be emotional about SF's death so their reasoning may currently be different in KW case where if SF's death didn't happen those reasoning's may be different.

It has nothing to do with me being offended-don't make it sound like it is. I also do not believe it was Red Law's intention to cheapen or to lessen SF's death by making the connection. But nevertheless, I think it does so anyway. I simply think most people(like just about everybody) are smart enough to see the total difference between the two situations and the fact that SF's tragic death just happened to occur as a result of a car accident shouldn't(and won't) have any effect on what happens to KW. If, God forbid someone was killed or even seriously injured in KW's accident, then most definitely the comparison would be appropriate and you would see the comparison being made in the media. But it was a minor rear end accident that led to no injuries, thus there really is no comparison, and I think most people see that.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

This is an important thread. One of the most important in years I think. So the mods should delete the debate between 4.6.3 and Metal head. They can then discuss things privately if they feel they must. Please.... Freaking stop

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Riley's comments on Williams are very circumspect. I think he wants to keep him but knows things are very complicated and there are higher ups who will have the final say

 

[yorocco]

Riley's comments on Williams are very circumspect. I think he wants to keep him but knows things are very complicated and there are higher ups who will have the final say

how does a guy with 3 prior arrests get hired? would a player get get 4 chances?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

how does a guy with 3 prior arrests get hired? would a player get get 4 chances?

Was it 3 prior arrests or two? And the simple answer to your question is "I don't know". But we do not know all that went into that decision. Beware jumping to conclusions

 

[GBRhuskers]

how does a guy with 3 prior arrests get hired? would a player get get 4 chances?

Coach Williams has 2 prior arrests, this is his 3rd.

Your question is better suited for Pelini, who allowed Hunter Teafatiller to remain on the team after his third arrest in a 14-month span.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Coach Williams has 2 prior arrests, this is his 3rd.

Your question is better suited for Pelini, who allowed Hunter Teafatiller to remain on the team after his third arrest in a 14-month span.

That is an excellent example. I am sure there are others as well. The truth is that it is total BS to say that college football players are treated harshly and without compassion when it comes to these kinds of offenses. Total BS

 

[leodisflowers]

how does a guy with 3 prior arrests get hired? would a player get get 4 chances?

Haven't done the research, but the other two DUI's are like 12 years ago? Not sure how old he is now, but that is a pretty big gap. I'm sure he was asked the questions early on, but has behaved himself. Now has another slip up. The questions will now be there again, but I'd say he must have done enough.

 

[timnsun]

how does a guy with 3 prior arrests get hired? would a player get get 4 chances?

They have. i already answered that question for you.

Don't make this a comparison. You finally have a leg to stand on here, and you keep falling over trying to compare it to players and the chances they get.

If you want to make an argument he should be gone on the merit of his actions, I won't disagree with you. If you want to say he deserves a third chance (although I know you don't) I won't disagree with you. But Players have been given 2nd and 3rd chances all the time. Stop trying to make it into something it's not.

 

[CC_Lemming]

Is it too much to hope for that 4.6.3 will get a nice long vacation from this board so the pissing matches will be cut in half?

The Ignore feature works wonders, let me tell you.

 

[Red Law]

It's not the reality. You are literally the only person I have seen trying to connect the two. I searched every possible article, blog post, message board thread I could find. Nowhere else does anybody even mention what happened 3 weeks ago in connection with this incident. Don't you think if that was significant you would find somebody else mentioning it? Something appended to the end of an article like "this comes 3 weeks after another incident with a car that killed a member of the Husker football team". But it's not there. Why? Because there is no connection with the two. It cheapens and lessens the impact of what happened 3 weeks ago to try to connect the two in any way.

So be it. I may be the only one who believes that retaining Williams becomes harder in light of Sam's accident. I don't believe that cheapens Sam's life or death in anyway. I believe that it's a reflection that driving is inherently dangerous and those associated with the program cannot show a repeated disrespect for those dangers or the rule of law; lest there be more accidents and potentially more fatalities.

Coach Riley understands the situation he is in as well as anyone. As he said this morning, "People get killed, kill others, kill themselves. That's all bad."

 

[Freddie gaines]

Quickly assuming Williams has an alcohol problem without knowing him seems like an extreme assumption.

three convictions is a felony not an assumption

 

[Hoosker Du]

Per LJS

"The driver Williams hit initially just wanted to exchange information, but she called police when she asked Williams who his car insurance was through and he told her "Blue Cross Blue Shield," according to a probable cause affidavit for his arrest."

Obviously, he was pretty drunk as he was giving her his health insurance information

"Can I see your license?"

"Isn't it on the bumper, man?"

 

[Pennsyhusker]

three convictions is a felony not an assumption

It is an assumption that Williams has a chronic alcohol problem based on three DUI'S spread out over 15 years. It may just be that he is repeatedly careless in driving after having had a few too many. I drink alcohol. And I am super careful and err on the side of caution about driving. But perhaps Williams is just an irresponsible jerk on this issue but not an alcoholic. I had a student back when I taught college. She had two DUI'S in a year because she was stupid. Was she an alcoholic? No

 

[LBremser]

The Ignore feature works wonders, let me tell you.

Thank you, I had forgotten about that option.

 

[GBRhuskers]

Update, his charge has been dropped to a misdemeanor per the LJS.

 

[sparky62]

If you guys have a beef take it to PM's. Not here.

 

[rrthusker]

With the charges a misdemeanor and an infraction I would say some of you can put away the tar and feathers.

 

[GBRhuskers]

If you guys have a beef take it to PM's. Not here.

I tried doing that earlier and it doesn't allow me. Is there something to activate the PM's or do we have to be a member?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Update, his charge has been dropped to a misdemeanor per the LJS.

Wow. Great news.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Wow. Great news.

Some people will hate the news...because they feel like he should get the death penalty

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Some people will hate the news...because they feel like he should get the death penalty

I know. I thought about that before I posted. I take drunk driving very seriously. But I still think this is good news.

 

[rrthusker]

Some people will hate the news...because they feel like he should get the death penalty

Not sure about the death penalty but after reading the vitriol spewed this sure won`t make them happy.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Not sure about the death penalty but after reading the vitriol spewed this sure won`t make them happy.

Amen to that! There will be some very unhappy posters.

 

[rrthusker]

Amen to that! There will be some very unhappy posters.

Even it he had committed a felony, I do not understand the animosity towards him as a human being.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

It is a misdemeanor now but it still might mean some jail time. Or am I wrong???

 

[sparky62]

I tried doing that earlier and it doesn't allow me. Is there something to activate the PM's or do we have to be a member?

I'll look into it & ask Mike, but it should be for all to use. Thanks.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Even it he had committed a felony, I do not understand the animosity towards him as a human being.

I think it is one of those things where a lot of people feel like they have to be "more outraged" than everyone else. So you have Poster X say "This is insane, he should be fired and in prison for life" and that just makes Poster Y have to be MORE outraged "Prison for life, so the taxpayers can foot the bill? No way, he should be given the death sentence, that POS!"

 

[headcard]

I think it is one of those things where a lot of people feel like they have to be "more outraged" than everyone else. So you have Poster X say "This is insane, he should be fired and in prison for life" and that just makes Poster Y have to be MORE outraged "Prison for life, so the taxpayers can foot the bill? No way, he should be given the death sentence, that POS!"

The old Bad Cop, Bad Cop.

 

[CC_Lemming]

Even it he had committed a felony, I do not understand the animosity towards him as a human being.

It feels good to get on the moral high horse. It's not enough that people make mistakes or have their demons, that no one is perfect. Some have to point out that they should be held accountable for these things, lose their jobs, serve a jail sentence, etc., and tear them down, if only to remind them how much better they are, especially when that person is in the limelight.

 

[rrthusker]

It feels good to get on the moral high horse. It's not enough that people make mistakes or have their demons, that no one is perfect. Some have to point out that they should be held accountable for these things, lose their jobs, serve a jail sentence, etc., and tear them down, if only to remind them how much better they are, especially when that person is in the limelight.

Truly sad and never thought I would see it so often on this site.