Benning Says Nebraska Needs To Accept They Are A Developmental Program

[Tim Povich]

Unfortunately it seems to be working for them when it comes to head to head matchups against Nebraska.

Noonan, Kpai, Fidone, & Carnie are a few that disagrees.

As bad as we've been, we're not going to win them all. Especially 2 kids of guys that are perceived to have a bone to pick with Frost. Once the W/L flips, you'll see the battles will heavily favor Nebraska.

 

[TFrazier]

Noonan, Kpai, Fidone, & Carnie are a few that disagrees.

As bad as we've been, we're not going to win them all. Especially 2 kids of guys that are perceived to have a bone to pick with Frost. Once the W/L flips, you'll see the battles will heavily favor Nebraska.

Games

 

[rucker4]

Listen to the pod cast. Iowa is clearly doing this with Nebraska. Obsession to say the least.

Be a critic all you want but they are beating Nebraska's ass every year (7 in a row and 8 of last 9 and the last 5 in a row in Lincoln) and have finished with better results overall now than Nebraska over the past 20+ years. At some point ego from fans and the program needs to be dropped and reality must set in because irrelevancy has set in. That's not Iowa's fault-- rather Nebraska's.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Be a critic all you want but they are beating Nebraska's ass every year (7 in a row and 8 of last 9 and the last 5 in a row in Lincoln) and have finished with better results overall now than Nebraska over the past 20+ years. At some point ego from fans and the program needs to be dropped and reality must set in because irrelevancy has set in. That's not Iowa's fault-- rather Nebraska's.

That doesn't change the fact that Iowa is using decade old quotes as motivation does it? Which I believe is the discussion.

 

[Tim Povich]

Games

Next time, just call me a dumbass.

 

[rucker4]

That doesn't change the fact that Iowa is using decade old quotes as motivation does it? Which I believe is the discussion.

And why does that matter? Takes away from their victories? They are dominating the series and when comparing results.

 

[rucker4]

Iowa hasn’t done jack under Ferentz, however Frost already has more losing regular seasons in 4 years than Ferentz has in his entire time as head coach of Iowa. If Frost’s career mirrors Ferentz’s going forward we will have found our forever coach and the majority of Husker fans will declare it good enough

Ferentz has had 3 top 8 finishes while at Iowa, another final 10 ranking, and two undefeated conference seasons and multiple New Year's Day bowl appearances.

Do you actually believe Frost or any other Nebraska coach will ever be able to say that?

 

[redwine65]

if nebraska conferance games in 26 are:
at usc
at houston
at miami

is it ok for the coaches after the game to run around the cities offering nil deals?
there's no nil rules, right?

 

[nostromo78]

Be a critic all you want but they are beating Nebraska's ass every year (7 in a row and 8 of last 9 and the last 5 in a row in Lincoln) and have finished with better results overall now than Nebraska over the past 20+ years. At some point ego from fans and the program needs to be dropped and reality must set in because irrelevancy has set in. That's not Iowa's fault-- rather Nebraska's.

beating ASS is kind of a stretch here. The games have been close. In the B1G, 7 of the 11 games between the 2 have been 1 score games. 1 of the 11 we beat them by more than 1 score. 3 they beat us. Thats hardly beating our ass. OSU has beat our ass every year (except the 1 win, Frosts 1st year, and last year. Not Iowa. Iowa sucks for not beating our ass harder. We are at an all time low and they have squeaked by almost every year.

 

[mikecanale]

Long listen but very interesting what Benning thinks Nebraska needs to recognize as a program in order to move forward.

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Can we say that in the 70's and early 80's (before the 1982), Nebraska was a developmental program if you consider all the home-grown players who started for them, many who were not blue-chip players? But with the right coaches and system, they were quite successful. This allowed them to be successful in recruiting the blue-chippers in the mid 80's (Gill, Rozier, Fryer, Steve Taylor, Johnny Mitchell) through the late 90's (Frazier, Phillips, Newcomb, the Peters, Alberts) nationally.
Granted, TO was a once in a generation coach.

 

[scarletred]

Ferentz has had 3 top 8 finishes while at Iowa, another final 10 ranking, and two undefeated conference seasons and multiple New Year's Day bowl appearances.

Do you actually believe Frost or any other Nebraska coach will ever be able to say that?

Don’t know about Frost getting it done but yes to your answer and we have had 3 Head Coaches (Devaney, Osborne and even Solich) that blows away what ever Ferentz has ever accomplished at Ioway..

 

[SOHusker11]

Ferentz has had 3 top 8 finishes while at Iowa, another final 10 ranking, and two undefeated conference seasons and multiple New Year's Day bowl appearances.

Do you actually believe Frost or any other Nebraska coach will ever be able to say that?

Wow. Congrats on going full blown ioway stupid now.

Are you 12 years old? This is some funny shit.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

And why does that matter? Takes away from their victories? They are dominating the series and when comparing results.

It is just lame as hell. Do you think the top teams in the country pull out decade old quotes to motivate their 20 year old players? Those players don't even know who the guy is that made the quote.

The fact remains that just because Iowa is dominating the series right now, but Iowa isn't a dominating squad. They are an average Big Ten team, they lose the vast majority of their games to Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St, just like Wisconsin does. They beat up on the weaker teams in the league and Iowa St. At this point in time, using quotes to motivate you against Nebraska is pointless. That would be like Osborne pinning quotes from Oklahoma St, Kansas and Iowa St ADs to motivate Nebraska. That would have been lame then just like Iowa is lame now.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

That doesn't change the fact that Iowa is using decade old quotes as motivation does it? Which I believe is the discussion.

Tuco, why the hell you have to bring rational thought into this thread?

 

[frostonthegrass]

Ferentz has had 3 top 8 finishes while at Iowa

 

[406Nebraska515]

Top 8. What an odd number to use. Kinda like how Ioway fans always reference 2002 as a starting point for football. Freakin idiots.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Iowa hasn’t done jack under Ferentz, however Frost already has more losing regular seasons in 4 years than Ferentz has in his entire time as head coach of Iowa. If Frost’s career mirrors Ferentz’s going forward we will have found our forever coach and the majority of Husker fans will declare it good enough

This scares me to death!

 

[TampaBaySkers]

I don't disagree with you on Iowa, but what pictures does Nebraska have up in it's weight room? Who is our rival in the non-bowl bid era?

I believe there is a picture of a shirtless frost

 

[NikkiSixx]

I would say Nebraska's incompetence is what is working for them (and everyone else).

I think that changes this season.

With Trev driving the program, expectations are going back up, not down.

As for the Iowa thing.. I'm going to flip things upside down for a moment, and ask if we are starting to obsess a little too much over what Iowa says, thinks, does?

I get rivalry, but I think some people here give that team too much 'time' as it is.

 

[headcard]

Be a critic all you want but they are beating Nebraska's ass every year (7 in a row and 8 of last 9 and the last 5 in a row in Lincoln) and have finished with better results overall now than Nebraska over the past 20+ years. At some point ego from fans and the program needs to be dropped and reality must set in because irrelevancy has set in. That's not Iowa's fault-- rather Nebraska's.

Yep Nebraska has been bad and Iowa is an irrelevant never has been. Thank you for your continued obsession.

 

[king_kong_]

And why does that matter? Takes away from their victories? They are dominating the series and when comparing results.

What’s the overall series record, cuck?

Daddy issues run deep on the sh*tty side of the river

 

[ExcellentBread]

All I learned from that is that Iowa is completely obsessed with Nebraska. Misquoting a press conference from 5 years ago on a recruiting trip? Pictures of Nebraska in their weight room? What a sad obsession, from a sad program.

Nebraska is the only home game on Iowa’s schedule that isn’t a sell-out, yet. I think Iowa fans in Western Iowa are obsessed with Nebraska, ISU in Central Iowa, and Minnesota and Wisconsin in Eastern Iowa.

But you might be right about the coaching staff. I’m sure when Ferentz came to the job, Nebraskas program was a measuring stick for him.

 

[king_kong_]

Nebraska is the only home game on Iowa’s schedule that isn’t a sell-out, yet. I think Iowa fans in Western Iowa are obsessed with Nebraska, ISU in central Iowa, and Minnesota and Wisconsin in Eastern Iowannn

wow you bums have home games with tix available?

what’s that like?

 

[ExcellentBread]

wow you bums have home games with tix available?

what’s that like?

I don’t have a favorite team, I just like to go to college football games in the Midwest - so I guess I like affordable tickets.

 

[king_kong_]

I don’t have a favorite team, I just like to go to college football games in the Midwest - so I guess I like affordable tickets.

Pretty weird, but alright

 

[szohn]

wow you bums have home games with tix available?

what’s that like?

That’s a joke right ?

 

[rcnut223]

Steve Pedersen had a big ego and wanted to re-invent Nebraska. He was the reason Solich was fired and set our program back at least 5 years.

Steve Peterson sent us into a downward spiral that has lasted more than 20 years.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

I thought the pig trophy was against Minnesota

Does it matter?

No.

It's a historic trophy with a real origin.

The 1934 game between the Hawkeyes and Golden Gophers had been filled with controversy over the treatment of Iowa star halfback Ozzie Simmons. Simmons was also one of the few black football players of that era, and several rough hits by the Gophers on Simmons forced him to leave the game multiple times in Minnesota’s 48–12 victory. “What it amounted to was that they were piling on – late hits,” Simmons recalled. “I had bruised ribs...they came at me with knees high, and some of it was pretty obvious.”[2]

The following year, Coach Bernie Bierman’s Gophers were 5–0, and Coach Ossie Solem’s Hawkeyes were 4–0–1. Before the 1935 Iowa–Minnesota contest in Iowa City, Bierman received a flood of threatening letters from Iowa fans. He requested and received special police protection for the team when it detrained in Iowa a couple of days before the contest.[3]

The day before the game, Iowa Governor Clyde L. Herring told reporters, "If the officials stand for any rough tactics like Minnesota used last year, I'm sure the crowd won't."[4] Herring’s message was clear. “What he was saying was, ‘If you treat Ozzie like you treated him last year, we’re coming out of the stands,’” Simmons said.[5]

The news quickly reached Minnesota. Coach Bierman threatened to break off athletic relations. Minnesota Attorney General Harry H. Peterson practically accused the Iowa governor of thuggery. "Your remark that the crowd at the Iowa–Minnesota game will not stand for any rough tactics is calculated to incite a riot," said Peterson. "It is a breach of your duty as governor, and evidences an unsportsmanlike, cowardly and contemptible frame of mind."[3]

To lighten the mood, Minnesota Governor Floyd Olson sent a telegram to Governor Herring on game-day morning, which read, "Minnesota folks are excited over your statement about Iowa crowds lynching the Minnesota football team. I have assured them you are law abiding gentlemen and are only trying to get our goat...I will bet you a Minnesota prize hog against an Iowa prize hog that Minnesota wins."[4]

The Iowa governor accepted, and word of the bet reached Iowa City as the crowd gathered at the stadium. The situation calmed, and the game proceeded without incident. Minnesota won 13–6, and Iowa star Ozzie Simmons played an injury-free game. Afterward, Minnesota players went out of their way to compliment Simmons, and Simmons praised the Gophers for their clean, hard-fought play. Minnesota went on to win their second straight national championship.

Governor Herring obtained an award-winning prize pig which had been donated by Allen Loomis, the owner of Rosedale Farms near Fort Dodge, Iowa. Dubbed Floyd after Minnesota Governor Olson, the pig was the brother of Blue Boy from Will Rogers' movie State Fair. A few days later, Governor Herring collected "Floyd of Rosedale" and personally walked him into Governor Olson’s carpeted office.[4]

Iowa social crusader Virgil Case swore out a criminal warrant in Des Moines against Governor Herring, alleging that the bet violated Iowa gambling laws.[6] Herring jokingly stated that he had retained Governor Olson as his attorney, who argued that it was not a true bet because Herring did not have a chance of winning it.[6] However, an assistant Iowa attorney general convinced a judge to dismiss on jurisdictional grounds because the bet had been made in Minnesota and Iowa City, beyond the local court's jurisdiction.[6] The Case also argued that the governors were guilty of violating federal gambling laws because the pig had been placed into interstate commerce when Herring made good on the bet, but the U.S. Attorneys declined to prosecute.[6] President Franklin Roosevelt's former son-in-law, Curtis Dall, who attended the 1935 game as a guest of the governors, suggested that they name the pig "New Deal." Herring vetoed that proposal.

 

[phoenix4nu]

It's a historic trophy with a real origin. Just because Nebraska doesn't have any historic rivalries anymore doesn't mean you should disparage ours.

The 1934 game between the Hawkeyes and Golden Gophers had been filled with controversy over the treatment of Iowa star halfback Ozzie Simmons. Simmons was also one of the few black football players of that era, and several rough hits by the Gophers on Simmons forced him to leave the game multiple times in Minnesota’s 48–12 victory. “What it amounted to was that they were piling on – late hits,” Simmons recalled. “I had bruised ribs...they came at me with knees high, and some of it was pretty obvious.”[2]

The following year, Coach Bernie Bierman’s Gophers were 5–0, and Coach Ossie Solem’s Hawkeyes were 4–0–1. Before the 1935 Iowa–Minnesota contest in Iowa City, Bierman received a flood of threatening letters from Iowa fans. He requested and received special police protection for the team when it detrained in Iowa a couple of days before the contest.[3]

The day before the game, Iowa Governor Clyde L. Herring told reporters, "If the officials stand for any rough tactics like Minnesota used last year, I'm sure the crowd won't."[4] Herring’s message was clear. “What he was saying was, ‘If you treat Ozzie like you treated him last year, we’re coming out of the stands,’” Simmons said.[5]

The news quickly reached Minnesota. Coach Bierman threatened to break off athletic relations. Minnesota Attorney General Harry H. Peterson practically accused the Iowa governor of thuggery. "Your remark that the crowd at the Iowa–Minnesota game will not stand for any rough tactics is calculated to incite a riot," said Peterson. "It is a breach of your duty as governor, and evidences an unsportsmanlike, cowardly and contemptible frame of mind."[3]

To lighten the mood, Minnesota Governor Floyd Olson sent a telegram to Governor Herring on game-day morning, which read, "Minnesota folks are excited over your statement about Iowa crowds lynching the Minnesota football team. I have assured them you are law abiding gentlemen and are only trying to get our goat...I will bet you a Minnesota prize hog against an Iowa prize hog that Minnesota wins."[4]

The Iowa governor accepted, and word of the bet reached Iowa City as the crowd gathered at the stadium. The situation calmed, and the game proceeded without incident. Minnesota won 13–6, and Iowa star Ozzie Simmons played an injury-free game. Afterward, Minnesota players went out of their way to compliment Simmons, and Simmons praised the Gophers for their clean, hard-fought play. Minnesota went on to win their second straight national championship.

Governor Herring obtained an award-winning prize pig which had been donated by Allen Loomis, the owner of Rosedale Farms near Fort Dodge, Iowa. Dubbed Floyd after Minnesota Governor Olson, the pig was the brother of Blue Boy from Will Rogers' movie State Fair. A few days later, Governor Herring collected "Floyd of Rosedale" and personally walked him into Governor Olson’s carpeted office.[4]

Iowa social crusader Virgil Case swore out a criminal warrant in Des Moines against Governor Herring, alleging that the bet violated Iowa gambling laws.[6] Herring jokingly stated that he had retained Governor Olson as his attorney, who argued that it was not a true bet because Herring did not have a chance of winning it.[6] However, an assistant Iowa attorney general convinced a judge to dismiss on jurisdictional grounds because the bet had been made in Minnesota and Iowa City, beyond the local court's jurisdiction.[6] The Case also argued that the governors were guilty of violating federal gambling laws because the pig had been placed into interstate commerce when Herring made good on the bet, but the U.S. Attorneys declined to prosecute.[6] President Franklin Roosevelt's former son-in-law, Curtis Dall, who attended the 1935 game as a guest of the governors, suggested that they name the pig "New Deal." Herring vetoed that proposal.

Do you think that anyone on here will actually read all of that?

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Do you think that anyone on here will actually read all of that?

Yes, because it's very interesting.

Also, I removed my little comment at the beginning...which was unnecessary.

 

[NikkiSixx]

tldr

 

[scarletred]

Yes, because it's very interesting.

Also, I removed my little comment at the beginning...which was unnecessary.

My father from Minnesota so I know the story of Floyd…Paul Bunyan’s axe and the little brown jug have as much history as Floyd especially the Wisconsin game..

 

[HuskerAlum92]

Yes, because it's very interesting.

Also, I removed my little comment at the beginning...which was unnecessary.

You are wrong. Try another message board that cares.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

You can go back all the way when Eichorst fired Pelini and saying “ I had to evaluate where Iowa was as a program” You can bet that still were the fighting words for Ioway Coaching staff and fans and that still remains in their craw…

But we hired the ginger son of God to coach, and get the worst Nebraska teams in modern history. But yea, let’s talk about some quote from almost a decade ago like it’s the reason why

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Do you really think coaches sit around all day, keep a list and refer to it often about what others say about their program? It's a false narrative of motivation.

It’s used as a crutch by the cleti to forgive their golden child

 

[rucker4]

Nebraska is the only home game on Iowa’s schedule that isn’t a sell-out, yet. I think Iowa fans in Western Iowa are obsessed with Nebraska, ISU in Central Iowa, and Minnesota and Wisconsin in Eastern Iowa.

But you might be right about the coaching staff. I’m sure when Ferentz came to the job, Nebraskas program was a measuring stick for him.

Could be true. and now it's completely the other way around-- at least it's what Benning implies it should be and he's a former player.

 

[rucker4]

Yep Nebraska has been bad and Iowa is an irrelevant never has been. Thank you for your continued obsession.

dude, you seem to get easily triggered.

Vent your years of anger and frustration not at Iowa, but rather Nebraska and all the reasons things have turned very pedestrian for many years now.

Iowa, and many other schools, are only guilty of taking full advantage of the depths NU has gone to.

Listen to what the podcast point is from Benning-- who, unlike you, is a former player in the program and has far more emotion in all this than do you from your couch.

 

[scarletred]

But we hired the ginger son of God to coach, and get the worst Nebraska teams in modern history. But yea, let’s talk about some quote from almost a decade ago like it’s the reason why

Never said it’s the reason why.. Merely pointed out that Ferentz and his staff remember very well what was said about them 7 years ago not a decade and they still use that in high regards..

 

[Dean Pope]

The fact remains that just because Iowa is dominating the series right now, but Iowa isn't a dominating squad. They are an average Big Ten team, they lose the vast majority of their games to Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St, just like Wisconsin does. That would have been lame then just like Iowa is lame now.

I agree and I think our football program shares those beliefs. Iowa is lame. I'll throw in Purdue, Northwestern, and Minnesota. But yet, we play those teams every year and struggle against them. So what does that make us?

Our team went 1-8 last year in the conference. Everything that is great about our program was built many years ago. A little humility would be nice. We have individual players who have it but as a program we play like a program that doesn't respect their opponents. We don't do the little things that win games. We don't prepare well and it shows up almost every week.

 

[rucker4]

I agree and I think our football program shares those beliefs. Iowa is lame. I'll throw in Purdue, Northwestern, and Minnesota. But yet, we play those teams every year and struggle against them. So what does that make us?

Our team went 1-8 last year in the conference. Everything that is great about our program was built many years ago. A little humility would be nice. We have individual players who have it but as a program we play like a program that doesn't respect their opponents. We don't do the little things that win games. We don't prepare well and it shows up almost every week.

A poster who finally gets Benning's point. And as he says a program that needs to learn it's a developmental program.