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$EC, throw a rock at any school in that conference and you will find major recruiting violations.# of 5 star recruits for entire conference
BIG TEN - 3
ACC - 4
PAC12 - 5
BIG12 - 2
That is why I cannot understand why most are giving our class a B.# of 5 star recruits for entire conference
BIG TEN - 3
ACC - 4
PAC12 - 5
BIG12 - 2
That's what having a great coach and program that throws a ton of money and people at recruiting does. Get off the cheating garbage.... every program cheats according to some on here.That's what winning (by any cost) does.
That's what having a great coach and program that throws a ton of money and people at recruiting does. Get off the cheating garbage.... every program cheats according to some on here.
That is why I cannot understand why most are giving our class a B.
That's what having a great coach and program that throws a ton of money and people at recruiting does. Get off the cheating garbage.... every program cheats according to some on here.
Come on, get off Alabama and the SECs nuts. Saban and most of the SEC coaches are probably doing everything possible to get there guys they want (cash, cars, promises and or what ever it takes to get there man or men). In these days, it's all about winning, winning and more winning. There isn't much of the "by the book" innocent type coaches in that conference and anyone who believes different is apparently blind. Look, Ole Miss is already getting looked at for....ummm....some reason. I know, pour SEC, all the haters want them to fall. I here the world's smallest violin playing right now.
If that is true...it is pretty smart!Heard on the radio today from someone who would know (former CFB and NFL coach) that no SEC coaches are allowed to call the NCAA on another SEC coach or school. Instead they are to call the SEC headquarters who will address it as they see fit.
5 of his last ten classes were top 10.Of course, this is JMO, not yours. I just get tired of everyone bagging on this class because Riley has not immediately turned our program around by landing a Top 10 class. It's not a reasonable expectation. Osborne didn't do it.
Bo wasn't a B recruiter.Top 2 or 3 = A+
Top 10 = A
Top 15 = A-
Top 20 = B+
Top 25 = B
I wasn't a fan of his average #23 classes nor his 9/10 wins a season nor the way he deported himself...he needed to go. But let's stop moving the goal posts.However, we are just asking him to repair the program that Pelini left in a mess. Unless you are still pining for Bo you know that is true.
Come on, get off Alabama and the SECs nuts. Saban and most of the SEC coaches are probably doing everything possible to get there guys they want (cash, cars, promises and or what ever it takes to get there man or men). In these days, it's all about winning, winning and more winning. There isn't much of the "by the book" innocent type coaches in that conference and anyone who believes different is apparently blind. Look, Ole Miss is already getting looked at for....ummm....some reason. I know, pour SEC, all the haters want them to fall. I here the world's smallest violin playing right now.
Saban doesn't cheat, that would be dumb. That's taken care of for them, the coaches don't know about it.You need to get off the SEC penis envy. So tell us when Saban decided to start all this cheating....was it at Mich St, LSU, or Alabama? Not one person on here ever mentions dirty play while he was in the Big. Just a bunch butt hurt because the SEC is owning it right now. Stop the whining and just get better, it's simple.
Saban doesn't cheat, that would be dumb. That's taken care of for them, the coaches don't know about it.
nick saban was only 23-16-1 at msuYou need to get off the SEC penis envy. So tell us when Saban decided to start all this cheating....was it at Mich St, LSU, or Alabama? Not one person on here ever mentions dirty play while he was in the Big. Just a bunch butt hurt because the SEC is owning it right now. Stop the whining and just get better, it's simple.
nick saban was only 23-16-1 at msu
I would have never guessed that you weren't happy. Shocker! And yes I am speaking for myself. Just because you have blinders on to the state of our program under Coach Pelini doesn't mean that there weren't serious issues. Wins and losses don't tell the whole story for both the Pelini staff and the current one. So, good luck with your hatefest. Riley isn't going anywhere for the next three years."However, we are just asking him to repair the program that Pelini left in a mess.".
No, we're not. Perhaps you are but please do not make that statement as an implied, and unanimously agreed upon, assumption. Riley is to be held to the same standard that all coaches are here at Nebraska-perhaps that's a good question to ask...what are the current standards (for me, it's been winning but obviously that expectation has been sent packing in the favor of "happy press conferences")?? That statement above to me reads as a direct excuse for any lack of winning and any other critical questioning of what is currently occurring (and yes I do believe in patience as well with ANY new staff).
GBR
No, I doubt every single program in the country have people paying players without the knowledge of the program.So you're willing to admit that ALL programs have people paying players without the knowledge of the program including Nebraska?
Come on, get off Alabama and the SECs nuts. Saban and most of the SEC coaches are probably doing everything possible to get there guys they want (cash, cars, promises and or what ever it takes to get there man or men). In these days, it's all about winning, winning and more winning. There isn't much of the "by the book" innocent type coaches in that conference and anyone who believes different is apparently blind. Look, Ole Miss is already getting looked at for....ummm....some reason. I know, pour SEC, all the haters want them to fall. I here the world's smallest violin playing right now.
Every coach at Bama recruits. Every coach at Bama recruits well. Even Joey Freshwater recruits (and not just QBs). Saban believes in recruiting and that doesn't mean just throwing a bunch of $ at it. That means every coach at Bama works his ass off, gets to know their targets, and knows how to sale. Yes the wins obviously make it easier for them but I am sure Saban himself will tell you that the Bama coaches still have to work their asses off in recruiting regardless if they just won a title or not.
Which makes me really shake my head because our staff doesn't have the success as coaches to "wow" commits. Our program has not won anything of importance in the life time of the kids we are now recruiting. But yet half of our staff is dog shit as recruiters and I mean of zero value to the recruiting game.
-Hank Hughes is probably the dullest guy you will ever meet in your life. He's a good X's & O's guy (especially against the run) and always has been. Look at this career and youll ask your self," why has this guy been stuck coaching UConn, Memphis, & Cincy?" Then after meeting him, you will understand
-Bruce Read- Really, do I even have to say anything. Worst coach to ever coach at NU in my life time. Worst recruiter to ever recruit at NU in my life time. He lives off of his buddy's tit and I think he may actually be mentally retarded.
-Reggie Davis - is he back from vacation yet? I think he went on vacation after the bowl game because he didn't do jack shit after. Does he even actively recruit?
-Mike Cavanaugh - I am sure I will take a lot of heat for hating on this guy. When he first came here, like many of you, I got pumped watching his youtube videos. I thought, what a great old man but the fact is, he isn't producing. 3 commits in 2 year. 2 were very, very good (Farnoik & Barnett). But let this sink in, the old staff did a better job at recruiting O-lineman for this class, then Cav did... and lets not even talk about his coaching ability. Good thing he knows people who will support him.
Bray, Stewart, & Williams - Carried this staff in recruiting this season.
Riley did a great job for a HC in the recruiting game. One day I hope this man will realize that a ton of his failure in football was because of his kindness to retaining friends on staff. I am all for helping buddies out but I am also against Cronyism & Nepotism. He decided long ago that being a loser was ok.
Banker & Langsdorf - did what is about expected from a Coordinator in recruiting.
So my point of all this is, look at how hard Bama's coaches work in recruiting. Look how every coach (even the coordinators) get commits. Yes, some of it is do to who they are but those coaches still have to recruit. If they relied on Name only, there are many other "big name" schools that would beat them out for those 5 stars. If they had 4 deadweight coaches in recruiting like NU has, then Bama would drop from the elite but Nick is too smart to ever let that happen. He'd fire a SOB for slacking at recruiting. Riley would never fire anyone.
Every coach at Bama recruits. Every coach at Bama recruits well. Even Joey Freshwater recruits (and not just QBs). Saban believes in recruiting and that doesn't mean just throwing a bunch of $ at it. That means every coach at Bama works his ass off, gets to know their targets, and knows how to sale. Yes the wins obviously make it easier for them but I am sure Saban himself will tell you that the Bama coaches still have to work their asses off in recruiting regardless if they just won a title or not.
Which makes me really shake my head because our staff doesn't have the success as coaches to "wow" commits. Our program has not won anything of importance in the life time of the kids we are now recruiting. But yet half of our staff is dog shit as recruiters and I mean of zero value to the recruiting game.
-Hank Hughes is probably the dullest guy you will ever meet in your life. He's a good X's & O's guy (especially against the run) and always has been. Look at this career and youll ask your self," why has this guy been stuck coaching UConn, Memphis, & Cincy?" Then after meeting him, you will understand
-Bruce Read- Really, do I even have to say anything. Worst coach to ever coach at NU in my life time.
-Mike Cavanaugh - I am sure I will take a lot of heat for hating on this guy. When he first came here, like many of you, I got pumped watching his youtube videos. I thought, what a great old man but the fact is, he isn't producing. 3 commits in 2 year. 2 were very, very good (Farnoik & Barnett). But let this sink in, the old staff did a better job at recruiting O-lineman for this class, then Cav did... and lets not even talk about his coaching ability. Good thing he knows people who will support him.
Bray, Stewart, & Williams - Carried this staff in recruiting this season.
Riley did a great job for a HC in the recruiting game.
Yep...your analysis seems to be spot on. The next guy to go should be Read. Riley has to know that he doesn't have a decade to get us back to double digit wins and championships. He needs to cut bait with Read and get Davis and Cavanaugh motivated...or put their heads on the chopping block.Every coach at Bama recruits. Every coach at Bama recruits well. Even Joey Freshwater recruits (and not just QBs). Saban believes in recruiting and that doesn't mean just throwing a bunch of $ at it. That means every coach at Bama works his ass off, gets to know their targets, and knows how to sale. Yes the wins obviously make it easier for them but I am sure Saban himself will tell you that the Bama coaches still have to work their asses off in recruiting regardless if they just won a title or not.
Which makes me really shake my head because our staff doesn't have the success as coaches to "wow" commits. Our program has not won anything of importance in the life time of the kids we are now recruiting. But yet half of our staff is dog shit as recruiters and I mean of zero value to the recruiting game.
-Hank Hughes is probably the dullest guy you will ever meet in your life. He's a good X's & O's guy (especially against the run) and always has been. Look at this career and youll ask your self," why has this guy been stuck coaching UConn, Memphis, & Cincy?" Then after meeting him, you will understand
-Bruce Read- Really, do I even have to say anything. Worst coach to ever coach at NU in my life time. Worst recruiter to ever recruit at NU in my life time. He lives off of his buddy's tit and I think he may actually be mentally retarded.
-Reggie Davis - is he back from vacation yet? I think he went on vacation after the bowl game because he didn't do jack shit after. Does he even actively recruit?
-Mike Cavanaugh - I am sure I will take a lot of heat for hating on this guy. When he first came here, like many of you, I got pumped watching his youtube videos. I thought, what a great old man but the fact is, he isn't producing. 3 commits in 2 year. 2 were very, very good (Farnoik & Barnett). But let this sink in, the old staff did a better job at recruiting O-lineman for this class, then Cav did... and lets not even talk about his coaching ability. Good thing he knows people who will support him.
Bray, Stewart, & Williams - Carried this staff in recruiting this season.
Riley did a great job for a HC in the recruiting game. One day I hope this man will realize that a ton of his failure in football was because of his kindness to retaining friends on staff. I am all for helping buddies out but I am also against Cronyism & Nepotism. He decided long ago that being a loser was ok.
Banker & Langsdorf - did what is about expected from a Coordinator in recruiting.
So my point of all this is, look at how hard Bama's coaches work in recruiting. Look how every coach (even the coordinators) get commits. Yes, some of it is do to who they are but those coaches still have to recruit. If they relied on Name only, there are many other "big name" schools that would beat them out for those 5 stars. If they had 4 deadweight coaches in recruiting like NU has, then Bama would drop from the elite but Nick is too smart to ever let that happen. He'd fire a SOB for slacking at recruiting. Riley would never fire anyone.
Davis and Cavanaugh? What the hell do you want? Good grief.Yep...your analysis seems to be spot on. The next guy to go should be Read. Riley has to know that he doesn't have a decade to get us back to double digit wins and championships. He needs to cut bait with Read and get Davis and Cavanaugh motivated...or put their heads on the chopping block.
I was thinking the same thing. Farnioks dad specifically mentioned Cav as one of the reasons he chose NU. Players love the guy!Davis and Cavanaugh? What the hell do you want? Good grief.
He's just trolling.I was thinking the same thing. Farnioks dad specifically mentioned Cav as one of the reasons he chose NU. Players love the guy!
Bo got 7 years and no double digit win seasons and no championships. Defense also regressed once Cally's boys moved on. And yet, some knobs were still crying that he was fired.Yep...your analysis seems to be spot on. The next guy to go should be Read. Riley has to know that he doesn't have a decade to get us back to double digit wins and championships. He needs to cut bait with Read and get Davis and Cavanaugh motivated...or put their heads on the chopping block.