Agree. But you said “HH will never give us the best chance to win”. Which is absolutely not true. You have no idea if DR will be a better college qb than HH for the season opener. Long term? Of course. But not day 1
Who is starting QB game #1 ?
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You related to Top Kong?
So SIMS should have started over HH? Seems HH gave us the best chance to win many times this last year. Doesn’t mean he’s good. Just better than anyone else on the roster. And until DR gets in a game, relying on a true freshman to read defenses and be more effective than a guy that’s been in the system and played vs big ten defenses is a risk. I’d rather take that risk and play DR. Doesn’t mean our record with DR would be better than with HH. We don’t know.
I’m not a HH fan so no. I think Chubba was better than HH. But anyone getting upset at me just suggesting that DR won’t be better than HH from day 1 is just being ridiculous. I hope DR is better. But relying on a true frosh qb, having never played a down of college football to win 6 games sounds steep.
IMO, I think they have a spring transfer FCS walkon that will be in the program all summer that takes the first snaps against UTEP. Call me crazy!
Man, people are really hypersensitive to the idea that DR won’t be ready to play college football from opening day. Really hope he doesn’t let the fanbase down; because we all know how patient and forgiving this fanbase is…
Dylan not ready is still better than our room. Will he be a Heisman Finalist - highly doubtful. Will he be better than our 3 QB’s last year … absolutely.
Just an opinion. What if he is not? He may very well be ready. I hope he is. I hope he’s a heisman finalist. But the suggestion a true freshman qb won’t beat out HH from day 1 shouldn’t be that controversial. Arch didn’t start. Ewers didn’t start. Fields didn’t start. Who was the last top freshman qb to start game 1? I realize our qb room is worse than all those teams, but it’s possible he’s not ready to go out win games even if he does beat out HH
I doubt that our two new portal transfer WR's chose Nebraska because they wanted to catch balls from Haarberg. I think Dylan will be the QB day one and the staff will not overload him with the entire playbook. I expect Dylan will be spoon fed and progress at a slower pace and as he gains more knowledge of the playbook he will adjust to playing college football. Dylan will be protected and not over worked. jmo
Dylan is already 6'3" 230lbs. He's obviously well trained and the #1 QB in the country. Last year our QBs performed horribly. Why would anybody expect someone else to start? Especially with Rhule bringing in a new Co-OC and potentially an offensive analyst to put him in the best position to succeed.
It’s going to be ugly on this board if DR looks like a freshman this year.
You think Neyor and Banks came here to catch balls from HH?
There’s your answer.
DR will start.
There’s your answer.
DR will start.
That’s not true. The defense won the games. If HH played great, despite the players around him, then you could say he won games. He was as much of the problem as the rest of the Offensive players trying to give the game away.
What did our offense avaerage, ppg? They didn’t win shit. We need much better production from the O. Let Raiola get the experience he needs to grow.
If DR cannot beat out HH as opening day QB1 this season, DR might want to reconsider football.
Sorry. I didn’t see this post before I replied. It’s 💯
It seems several questions have been raised here. Is DR going to start? Is DR going to be ready to start? Would HH be a better option at the start of the year? Who gives us a better chance to win?.
Just starting doesn't mean that much given that room. 2 freshmen and a great kid playing out of position.
The now retired Nick Saban was very much opposed to playing freshmen QBs. Some of his concern is they could get so beat up mentally they may never recover.
There is absolutely no way we can draw any conclusions on DR or DKs ability at this level come August. The game will be a whole new level. We can learn some things but overall, there is a ton to learn.
I feel safe in saying it is likely one or both freshmen get playing time because of injuries. Assume DR starts and gets hurt, who comes in? The offense changes completely with HH and injuries caught up to him as well. Dk will likely get rushed into service sometime, that could be interesting.
Where are the guys on here who were quick to pull a QB when he makes a mistake and have him watch a few series from the sideline? Whi would you do this with assuming DR is the starter?
I would like to see what the records are for freshmen QBs right out of HS. He is expected to learn the play books, make reads and all this with a set of WR that are new as well.
Just starting doesn't mean that much given that room. 2 freshmen and a great kid playing out of position.
The now retired Nick Saban was very much opposed to playing freshmen QBs. Some of his concern is they could get so beat up mentally they may never recover.
There is absolutely no way we can draw any conclusions on DR or DKs ability at this level come August. The game will be a whole new level. We can learn some things but overall, there is a ton to learn.
I feel safe in saying it is likely one or both freshmen get playing time because of injuries. Assume DR starts and gets hurt, who comes in? The offense changes completely with HH and injuries caught up to him as well. Dk will likely get rushed into service sometime, that could be interesting.
Where are the guys on here who were quick to pull a QB when he makes a mistake and have him watch a few series from the sideline? Whi would you do this with assuming DR is the starter?
I would like to see what the records are for freshmen QBs right out of HS. He is expected to learn the play books, make reads and all this with a set of WR that are new as well.
Careful. Logic and reasonable expectations aren’t well received around here.
Our QB room wasn’t just worse than those you teams you mentioned - it wasn’t even in the same stratosphere.
Also for the record … I expect DR to have some freshman pains. Though I don’t think it will be a turnover every 5 passes type of pains. He won’t be 5th year senior ready but compared to what we saw from our room I would bet my retirement he will not be statistically worse.
I seriously don’t get the mystery of having a true freshman start. Every fan has seen this from the Martinez boys. It’s not some unicorn situation where a freshman can come in and start. Also the fact that we actually have some tune-up games vs a division foe on the road at night.
DR is already a better college QB, and he hasn’t attended a class yet
Your statement alone admits that is nothing more than an opinion and not a fact. You can’t be objectively better and never played. Literally impossible.
Yeah, it is that controversial. HH isn’t a QB, at least, not a good one. This isn’t a question of two QB’s with a similar skill set and the incumbent has been good but the new kid is highly rated. They are entirely different. The O is going to be put in place for DR and DK to run, not HH.
You can use logic and have reasonable expectations and still say HH doesn’t start. He is not a QB. You would have two totally different offenses if you plan on starting HH and working in the Freshman. HH doesn’t fit the offense this staff wants to run.
Nice strawman. But when I bring a perfectly plausible scenario to a discussion, you can’t dismiss it with “matter of fact” opinion. Making outright statements of fact that are nothing more than an opinion is not an argument
Yet you state as fact something which you couldn’t possibly know in the post that I responded to. Goose meet gander.
Never said HH will start. I said it’s possible HH gives us the best chance to win because we don’t know how DR will perform at this level from day 1. I’m on board starting DR even if it means short term struggles. But can this fanbase handle DR not being great from day 1? Idk the answer to that
The only fact I stated is that we don’t know how DR will perform. That’s objectively true. Not a contradiction at all. Take your goose home and try again .
“‘HH will never give us the best chance to win.’ Which is absolutely not true.”
You, circa several minutes ago.
How do you know that statement is “absolutely not true.” How could you possibly know that. Or, are you just a liar?
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