Question: With that kind of an attitude, are you successful at anything?
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Nebraska gave up a Hail Mary to SC at halftime of the bowl game a few years ago.
I find the level of discussion to be pretty poor here. One game doesn't make a season and one season doesn't define the trajectory of the program under new management.
I'm not sure what many of you have been drinking throughout the spring, summer and fall camp but perhaps there was too much red kool-aid. Some of us talked about it the last few seasons, our offense was pretty atrocious last season, but Abdullah could turn a 5 yard TFL into a gain, etc. the offensive talent has been lacking up front for several seasons. We started one of the most inexperienced lines in the country yesterday. That isn't a recipe for success and our coaching staff knew it and they certainly have been aware of it. They are making a push solidify their lines through recruiting. This lack of quality depth on the OL isn't Mike Riley's fault no matter how many times you say so, it still isn't true.
Riley and Banker may or may not be the guys to lead the program back, but as I have said for 9 months to anyone is that they need time to adjust and coach their team. The first game is simply that, for seven years we have witnessed the mistakes from week 1 be repeated through to November. Let's sit back and see what kind of adjustments and lessons this team learns from this.
For the record, no one here can prove you right or wrong. No one here controls the staff. No one is responsible for the performance of this staff.
As a man of science I feel it necessary to point out the uncertainty of one data point is infinity, making any conclusions at this point useless and wildly premature. The funny thing is that the pragmatic approach has been something many Biff lovers pleaded for and when the shoe is on the other foot, it has completely gone out the window.
I'm not sure what many of you have been drinking throughout the spring, summer and fall camp but perhaps there was too much red kool-aid. Some of us talked about it the last few seasons, our offense was pretty atrocious last season, but Abdullah could turn a 5 yard TFL into a gain, etc. the offensive talent has been lacking up front for several seasons. We started one of the most inexperienced lines in the country yesterday. That isn't a recipe for success and our coaching staff knew it and they certainly have been aware of it. They are making a push solidify their lines through recruiting. This lack of quality depth on the OL isn't Mike Riley's fault no matter how many times you say so, it still isn't true.
Riley and Banker may or may not be the guys to lead the program back, but as I have said for 9 months to anyone is that they need time to adjust and coach their team. The first game is simply that, for seven years we have witnessed the mistakes from week 1 be repeated through to November. Let's sit back and see what kind of adjustments and lessons this team learns from this.
For the record, no one here can prove you right or wrong. No one here controls the staff. No one is responsible for the performance of this staff.
As a man of science I feel it necessary to point out the uncertainty of one data point is infinity, making any conclusions at this point useless and wildly premature. The funny thing is that the pragmatic approach has been something many Biff lovers pleaded for and when the shoe is on the other foot, it has completely gone out the window.
BYU isn't a Power 5 team either. We will have to wait until Miami. Hopefully we can get a win in Riley's first chance against a Power 5 team.
No they are not. Are you trying to equate BYU and Notre Dame? If so, they are world's apart. It's been six years since BYU finished the season ranked.
i'm not ready to say that Riley was a bad hire at this pt. it was his first game. gotta give him a little bit of a break. he made some very poor coaching decisions down the stretch tho. But i do agree that i do envision us having a Cozgrove-type defense. our defense is going to be poor for a long, long time. Bo's defenses sucked just the same, toward the end of his tenure.
Still cautiously optimistic. I've said it will be a long road back to national relevance. Add another week to the road. And recruit, recruit, recruit.
2011 is 3, soon to be 4 seasons ago, when they last finished the season ranked (#25 coaches).
C'mon...who counts the coaches poll these days. In the AP its been right at six years.
Spinner4--are you trolling ?
If not, let's start here... are you in the working world? Have you managed people before or are you in a management position now? If so, would you pass judgement on your staff with little data to go off of. If you are not in management, would you want your boss to pass judgement on your body of work after a few weeks on the job? In the college coaching profession it takes a couple of years to adequately ascertain how the new staff is doing...let's give him sometime to show us what he can do.
Please tell me ---what do expect out of MR and his staff this year? Be specific in answering this question. From the prior posts it appears you are a BP fan. Tell me, what were your expectation of BP and at what point would you have fired BP and his staff?
If not, let's start here... are you in the working world? Have you managed people before or are you in a management position now? If so, would you pass judgement on your staff with little data to go off of. If you are not in management, would you want your boss to pass judgement on your body of work after a few weeks on the job? In the college coaching profession it takes a couple of years to adequately ascertain how the new staff is doing...let's give him sometime to show us what he can do.
Please tell me ---what do expect out of MR and his staff this year? Be specific in answering this question. From the prior posts it appears you are a BP fan. Tell me, what were your expectation of BP and at what point would you have fired BP and his staff?
I've used the coaches poll every year I've posted on here. As a Huskers fan, coaches poll > AP poll.
You were wrong, own it.
Glad you use the coaches poll...most don't. Watch a football game on TV. When they say where people are ranked it's AP. I can own the fact I was looking up the AP poll and BYU hasn't been ranked there in recent years. I didn't check a bunch of other polls. You found a poll where the were ranked #25. Great. How did they fare in the Sagarin rankings? Billingsley? Maybe they ended up #24 in 2011!
Hmmm...
Tom inherited a program that was high end and his first game was against UCLA(#10 at the time, finished 12th).
Frank inherited a program that just won a national title, his first game was against Louisiana Tech.
Callahan inherited an ok program and his first game was against Western Illinois.
Pelini inherited a crap program by our standards and his first game was against Western Michigan.
Riley inherited an ok program and his first game was against BYU.
Of the teams listed in the coaches very first game I will only credit TO as having a tougher feat in terms of the team. Between the other teams BYU is the last I'd want to play so it's not like Riley had as easy of an entrance as the others have.
I am fully on-board with this team and staff. That was an exciting game. We rolled up a lot of offense but didn't sustain drives when we needed to run out the clock or get an insurance score. I loved what I saw up until the last second. My position is one of full support for the team and the staff.
Media using media, wow. Next time you say someone hasn't been ranked, cite the poll you're talking about, it isn't hard.
Going back to the OP, I just got a strong dose of reality this weekend. Mike Riley and the rest of the coaching staff are human. I figured we'd win 8 to 10 games this season. I'm gonna dial those numbers down a bit, say 6 to 8 wins.
Sure, we will throttle some of the teams early on our schedule, and the over-the-top pro-Riley crowd can come in and crow some. But now, any team with a heartbeat has a legitimate shot at beating us in my book.
Sure, we will throttle some of the teams early on our schedule, and the over-the-top pro-Riley crowd can come in and crow some. But now, any team with a heartbeat has a legitimate shot at beating us in my book.
What does the AP poll count for these days either? Like HTO said, the media uses the poll because...hold on to your seat...it's a media based poll. You make it sound like the poll is a vastly superior poll. I can't believe that you brought up the computer polls to imply that the Coaches' Poll is as lowly regarded as those polls.
Just like any fringe top 25 program, we're still at least 3 years away. This weekend didn't make it any shorter.
While not ready to throw the towel in , frankly after following the Huskers with way too much energy and commitment over the past 35 falls I am scaling back.
I don't think we will see Nebraska return to national prominess , and seriously doubt we will ever win the big
I wish the players and coaches well , but a reality check finds me less involved from here forward
I don't think we will see Nebraska return to national prominess , and seriously doubt we will ever win the big
I wish the players and coaches well , but a reality check finds me less involved from here forward
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The thing is, it was a very long shot Nebraska was going to make the playoffs this year. But, Nu still has a chance to make the conference title game. Nu still can win the conference title. Why would anyone doom and gloom with all of that still in front of the team?
You mean you want more evidence in order to make an informed decision to base your opinion on? What's wrong with you? You call yourself a Husker fan?
Too bad MR didn't get to start with Western Michigan, SJ state, and New Mexico State. Rather than BYU, S. Alabama and Miami. This staff had no idea what it had for a team till this game. I'm confident this staff will work on its weekness and build upon its strength.
It seems like the petulant children have stopped playing Madden on Xbox, to throw a temper tantrum on the boards. Man I feel bad for you with that sort of outlook.
It seems like the petulant children have stopped playing Madden on Xbox, to throw a temper tantrum on the boards. Man I feel bad for you with that sort of outlook.
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Really
Move along? Have you been a fan for 35 years ? Or alive that long?
Tell me of a program the likes of NU who hires a coach 29-33 in his last 4 years
The team is probably better under Rielly than pelini
I just feel We are years away from being good let alone great
Really
Move along? Have you been a fan for 35 years ? Or alive that long?
Tell me of a program the likes of NU who hires a coach 29-33 in his last 4 years
The team is probably better under Rielly than pelini
I just feel We are years away from being good let alone great
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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You are the asshat claiming you don't care. So just move along and do something else. I have no idea why you are even here if that is your little whining-baby stance. You said it, because you wanted to be another idiot that has decided the program is doomed after 1 damn game. You can claim you didn't want blo, but your whining ass wasn't here when he was pissing his pants and telling us to f off. Fitting your spineless ilk is here now. So yes, move along.
Pete Carroll is the closest, with a 33-31 record his last four before USC hired him. Saban catapulted his only good season at Michigan State in to the LSU gig, prior to that last season he was 25-22-1 with no finish better than fifth. He also had back-to-back, BTW his only two, losing seasons with the Dolphins prior to accepting the Bama job...
As for guaranteed success based on previous record, Brady Hoke says hello. So does Urban Meyer, someone who isn't leaving tOSU to coach Nebraska.
There are few guarantees, see James Franklin, and Charlie Strong as prime examples. I can list more if you choose, let me know...
I'm saying that BYU/Notre Dame should be considered P5 level. Kansas is a P5 team. Washington State is a P5 team. Purdue is a P5 team. BYU is head and shoulders above that level of program. They 'P5' in my book.
You mean you want more evidence in order to make an informed decision to base your opinion on? What's wrong with you? You call yourself a Husker fan?
In jest or not, I've never been asked if I'm a Nebraska fan more than in the last 2 days lol
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