Most think the OSU game will be a blood bath
The UCLA game at home will be key. Lose that game with a bye week to follow and things will really get ugly.
If you were Troy Dannen…
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The UCLA game at home will be key. Lose that game with a bye week to follow and things will really get ugly.
Full support, anything you need let me know. Otherwise, hands off 100%.
You need to start making inroads to potential replacement assistant coaches right away, or otherwise all of the good ones are going to be scooped up by the time conference play is over and the off-season gets under way. Can't afford to be dilly dallying with performance reviews at that point.
This is what happens when you lose by 50 to freaking Indiana. Lol
Well, yeah. We've learned from the past and we're getting short on patience. I think that's perfectly normal. Hell, if anything, I think our fanbase as a whole has been more than supportive and patient for all of our failed coaches over the last 20 something years
You are clearly not understanding the dumpster fire that was Baylor when Rhule took over. A huge number of players transferred from that 7-6 team before he was even hired. No one wanted to go there they almost shut the program down because of Briles, they literally had 1 verballed recruit and 45 scholarship players on the team. That is nothing like Frost inherited at UCF and it was in a power league. It would be more accurate to compare Rhule's time at Baylor to Frost's time at Nebraska.
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There's a lot of tough talk in this thread that if the AD sits down and threatens a coach in year 2 that his job might go away if certain things don't happen....
Evidence says it rarely plays out like that. For one it's an idle threat, because Matt Rhule (any coach) is making enough money on the contract to never work again if they don't want to. Oh dear. And for most guys they will just take their pile of gold and move on to the next job.
For a guy who is going to count their wealth in the tens and potentially hundreds of millions of dollars, there's far more evidence that they will continue to do things their way, with their people, and on their terms, than they actually care to wear the uniform of any particular institution. There's always an open door somewhere who is open to listening to a plan.
Evidence says it rarely plays out like that. For one it's an idle threat, because Matt Rhule (any coach) is making enough money on the contract to never work again if they don't want to. Oh dear. And for most guys they will just take their pile of gold and move on to the next job.
For a guy who is going to count their wealth in the tens and potentially hundreds of millions of dollars, there's far more evidence that they will continue to do things their way, with their people, and on their terms, than they actually care to wear the uniform of any particular institution. There's always an open door somewhere who is open to listening to a plan.
Yeah, no one has the right to criticize Nebraska fans with regards to patience. Every other program. Literally every other one is filled with empty seats when the team loses a few games. I've been to all the blue blood stadiums and the fans are as fair weather as you can find, except in Lincoln. Fans deserve, and I use that word intentionally, deserve better than this.
It's enough. Flat out enough. It's one thing to line up, play your best, and get beat. Our coaches don't do what is required to win, though. They think they're smarter than everyone, or are just collecting paychecks and not worried about their results. Those are the only choices. They aren't maximizing anything here, and I'm talking about the last 3 staffs. They probably think they're working hard, but they don't have an understanding of what that means. And I don't mean they have to spend 18 hours a day in the office. But these guys are just going through the motions, you can tell when people are doing that. "We've always done it this way so we just keep doing it this way". There's no pride to have that N next to you, no shame in waking up to getting beat by 7 touchdowns because the sun is going to rise on them the next day anyway. They don't have what it takes.
It's enough. Flat out enough. It's one thing to line up, play your best, and get beat. Our coaches don't do what is required to win, though. They think they're smarter than everyone, or are just collecting paychecks and not worried about their results. Those are the only choices. They aren't maximizing anything here, and I'm talking about the last 3 staffs. They probably think they're working hard, but they don't have an understanding of what that means. And I don't mean they have to spend 18 hours a day in the office. But these guys are just going through the motions, you can tell when people are doing that. "We've always done it this way so we just keep doing it this way". There's no pride to have that N next to you, no shame in waking up to getting beat by 7 touchdowns because the sun is going to rise on them the next day anyway. They don't have what it takes.
If I were an AD I'd have a short list for sure, Dannen doesn't have an unlimited ability to write checks so he probably is going to have to work the booster network.
Yeah I don't suspect they are looking to write any big checks.. but I can see them making things very uncomfortable, to where maybe a guy decides to move on.. that's the angle I'd consider.
he's in a dump conference and he's also 18-2 so far at Liberty, and he had a good record at Coastal Carolina too.. so not sure why you're isolating on one game.. kinda small minded I guess.
Once his TE coach was fired for a DUI I would sit him down and say if any of your coaches are caught drinking or doing any other activities that could get in their way of performing the job you, Matt Rhule, could be fired for cause and not receive your buyout. They all drink, some excessively, once you catch one, you document and use it when necessary to dump Rhule and save at least some of the buyout. In this way you do not need to be tied to a sinking ship for a coach that didn't earn or deserve a buyout that was given by an idiot AD who planning to leave anyway. Only hold onto Rhule as long as you need to get the coach you want and believe in...if that means firing Rhule in November, December, March...you do it. None of this waiting until the "right moment" to fire to only then get whatever random coach is 4th best available. If Rhule sues it will still probably be better than giving him 25 million or whatever straight up. Right now NU is acting like an abused wife...like we don't deserve better. Rhule showed up acting like a savior when he was so bad in Carolina that they kicked him out of the building and wouldn't let him back in mid-season...then he rolls in and acts like we are lucky to have him...like Lincoln and Nebraska is so pathetic we had to settle for a guy without a trophy who hasn't won anything and wins 25% of his games against decent opponents. Nebraska needs to represent something again, lets be the school that won't put up with shit from coaches...let find a nobody and pay him a million base, and ratchet it up based on incentives. Then give him the most in college football to bring in the best coodinators money can buy...he will be driven to manage to get paid and his coordinators, will always be the highest paid in the country. Coordinators can be fired on the spot without buyouts and so they have built in motivation, none of this bring "your guys" with the "CEO" getting 60% of the coaching pool. When that guys wins 9 or 10 and leaves we bring in another who is hungry...much better than being the worst team in college football year after year, literally a team that is unwatchable half the year, who still pays top dollar to scammer head coaches.
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Brilliant. Send this to Dannen ASAP.
He's not calling anybody. Rhule is going to have a chance to make some changes if things don't get straightened out by Black Friday.
Rhule isn't going anywhere this year. The idea that Dannen would fire him is ridiculous. We're pot committed and all of the boosters of substance I know are still behind Rhule. Satterfield? Not so much.
To be fair, look what he had to work with last year. Lost the WRs and RBs and the usual injuries to the line. Then the fiasco with Sims and Harrberg.
What’ll be interesting is if Rhule does have to replace 3 assistants or more on the offensive side alone. Does he go out of his comfort zone to people he has never worked with before? You also have to accept the fact that year 3 may resemble a lot of year one with all the new additions.
Let's hope he hires someone like Mickey Joseph who can bring in talented recruits.
This is the first thing I learned when I became an administrator. Every decision has a myriad of possibilities associated with it and you have to calculate as many as you can.
I am sure when I was a lowly teacher I was one of those people in the teachers lounge who actually thought they knew something.
Always a lot of bravado until you actually have to live with your decisions and explain them to everyone. It’s not like Nebraska sports operate in a vacuum.
What? His whole career he sucked as an OC. Everywhere.
If you are replacing the OC, you let the new OC call the shots on that offensive staff, imo.
Are you special needs? Serious question.
They might be one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen in over 20 years on rivals.
Also, feel free to mix in a paragraph or two.
Good lord.
Bald is beautiful my manIf I’m Troy Dannen I buy a truckload of Rogaine and hope for the best!
Interesting. Last I knew they was no evidence of this occuring. You are one of those guilty no matter what kinda people.
He has never beaten a Power conference ranked team. BYU doesn’t count they were an independent. Isn’t that the standard?
says who? I really have no idea what standard you are talking about. Whatever conference the guy has been in, he's won a lot of games.
have to agree.. has Matt Rhule ever gone out and gotten top position coaches or has he always 'promoted from within'..
The whole idea of promoting from within works when you're a super successful coach, but when you are not that kind of coach, it's seems more code for the inability to hire top position coaches imo.
A large problem with Matt is he talks a lot about "standard". Yet, very little standard is applied in some areas. NU sets the "standard" in facilities, player amenities, wow factor items that haven't elevated a program that is visually sub-standard and looks to be reeling towards a disastrous finish to yet another season.
Letting that little pip squeak that coaches WR's that won't block, catch/won't make contested catches, can't even get open, yet the same damn 3-4 guys keep getting all the snaps. Off the record, ask a Ron Brown or a Tom Osborne if the standard is being met there according to the 2 guys who know what championship play actually looks like. I don't even dislike McGuire, he shows a lot of enthusiasm for his job, but he needs to be held to this mythical "standard" that Matt espouses.
The same thing could be said for Barthel. We're 7 games into a season and he doesn't even appear to have a plan of his RB's and their rotation. We've had Ervin, always injured in the #4 spot all year, and he should just be a total non factor in any plans. Rahmir, who plays hard when he's healthy, is hurt again. EJ who lacks in pass pro is a kid who should just go back and play for Fleck and likely have a solid career.
Dowdell, who couldn't juke me, has that fumble bug jump up at the worst possible times. The RB room and coach are a total cluster fvdk. Barthel needs to go. We don't even have to discuss what a disaster Foley is at ST coach, or that Satt is never gonna get it done as a OC.
I'm hoping the young OLmen we have had enough time in the weight room to be more than an average OL next season. Pyle, Brix, Gottula, Magic, Sledge have GOT to be better than the fence posts, other than Mazz, don't they? The ONLY guy that they can't replace that's actually a good OLman is Mazz and he can't get out of his own road.
We don't have a TO whose teams style of play said,
"On offense this is what we do, this is who we are."
In one year, we went from 3 QB's that would run, but couldn't throw, to now one QB who can throw, but won't run. In that same vein, we went from last year's mostly inexperienced receivers, who could get open on occassion but not get the ball, to a veteran crew who could get the ball, but can't get open.
What the fvck are we doing on that side of the ball? And who are we 19 games into a new regime?
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If he’s so innocent then why wasn’t he retained?
Why is he down at lowly Grambling?
He has a much deserved reputation
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