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Retards will say this is proof of global warming/climate change
Surprised this thread hasn't been nuked yet lol.
Anyway, obviously ain't nobody changing anybody's minds here. What's new right? Just irked me when people go straight to insults calling me or my friends and cousin retarded when they specialize in an area of expertise that others clearly don't here. I'm over it now though, so my bad for my part in continuing to respond to the conversation as if it was one (although props to Tru, who treated it more as one once we got past the insult stage of things).
I just wanted to jump in on the joke of whoever posted the gif of bugs bunny sawing Florida off into the ocean. I guess one can't bring up the topic of climate change without getting group thinked. All good, idc.
Whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. All good. We all say GBR and Iowa sucks (except redmichelle).
Anyway, obviously ain't nobody changing anybody's minds here. What's new right? Just irked me when people go straight to insults calling me or my friends and cousin retarded when they specialize in an area of expertise that others clearly don't here. I'm over it now though, so my bad for my part in continuing to respond to the conversation as if it was one (although props to Tru, who treated it more as one once we got past the insult stage of things).
I just wanted to jump in on the joke of whoever posted the gif of bugs bunny sawing Florida off into the ocean. I guess one can't bring up the topic of climate change without getting group thinked. All good, idc.
Whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. All good. We all say GBR and Iowa sucks (except redmichelle).
I'm done, but don't think it's been said yet (thanks for doing so btw).
It's not that climate change is ONLY warming - it's extreme shifts in climate in general. Includes odd snow events like what you're trying to poorly make a point with this post, Hawaii some years back, humid regions getting more humid and hot without the balanced other seasons (plus strong uptick in hurricane and severe storms), same for dryer desert regions, etc.
But whatever, sure 🤪
But you end up using all the money you saved on gas to buy a new battery. Or you’re left with a worthless pile of scrap.
If they want to get rid of greenhouse gases they need to worry about cows more than cars
Accomplished in drumming with live experience for over 15 years, and studio drummer with a Grammy nominated producer in multimillion dollar studios.
So yeah, I'd be upset if some lay person tried to say my part I just put down was 8th notes when they were actually 16th notes, or that my tuning was off because it didn't read some exact note on a stupid phone app they have abs think highly of for whatever reason - considering I've tuned drums on legit records for years. I'd be mad if my defense in return was called out as "retarded" even though my work has been based in hard earned, studious specialization.
I respect the scientists in my life whose personal work is in regards to climate and human contributions to it that are way more than volcanoes (about the equivalent to a data worth of jets emissions over Europe).
Science isn't some immutable god... And conformity is actually the enemy. Hence, peer review. Scientists love nothing more than calling their peers out on bs, which is why we even read and hear about it to begin with (when such things get spun by talking heads looking for ratings). The fact that there's a consensus on climate and human contribution at 99.9% says a lot.
In fact, if the sciences in general had more funding, you'd see less of such headlines, as the ambitious scientist wouldn't feel the need to "win" grant money by skirting around scientific rigor just to get their big attention grabbing "findings" funded/published. It's a whole system... But I digress...
That's less than most of MN got this whole winter. I think Fargo is under 10" of snow this winter.
You continue to show us your lack of education.
What SUVs were on the road in 1929 (and prior) to drive carbon emissions to impact "climate change?"
Or, have you considered, that crazy weather events have happened for 100s if not 1000s if not 1,000,000 of years and you just weren't around to see it?
Maybe if you sacrifice a virgin to the volcano gods that will cease the drought or stop the floods or...
But feel free to pay more taxes!
You're not a serious person. That's my last response. Anything further with any serious people can message me about it. I'm as done with this thread as Collier is with Nebraska.
Walk ahead on your flat earth sir! 👍
1st, no one said only, but coming from they guy who's worried people are denying we have a climate we'll let that slide.
Considering the entire push for EVs is getting low mpg vehicles off the road (to reduce carbon emissions - while ignoring all the rich people who fly to climate change conferences in private jets) and those are some of the lowest...
Massive fail on being genuinely concerned about the climate.
It's a rare occurrence but every post from you makes me have less respect for you. And you were in negative territory many posts ago.
Florida is like many places that have very good charter schools and some lower performing regular public schools. DeSantis IS making a big difference by forcing those public schools to teach actually useful material instead of woke garbage.
In my state of Colorado we transferred my son from a regular public school to a charter school and the academic rigor is just night and day better. He was literally bored to frustration at the public school and is finally now being challenged. He LOVES the teachers and subject matter. They aren't spending a month learning about 'activists' (truth about his prior school). I think even the teachers there hated wasting time on useless junk pushed from the government.
A couple decades from now we'll all be benefitting from governors like DeSantis and Abbott that are ensuring kids in those states have been educated and aren't woke activist tools.
Arrived at my stance via critical thinking as someone who used to be a climate denialist 👌
Why would you deny there is a climate?
I don't like the wind towers...but...if you are going to be surrounded by them you might as well take the money too. Its not a perfect scenario, have had a few bugaboos and mishaps on the wind company but 10k a year for 30 year term on a 100 acre pasture that supports 24 pairs in a good year, its a nice boost.
Was wondering what the going rate was. One of the big down falls is the fact that in order to get financing their will be contractors lein put on the property that ties your hands.
It's usually a 4 to 5 shell company LLC that does land acquisition, construction, operations. Owned by one parent company ( more than likely foreign) they maximize tax refund and depreciation then sell to sister company and they start depreciation all over again
Ah yes, one of those climate scientists who somehow didn't realize China is actually building more coal plants than the rest of the world combined.
Don't know how he could have missed that considering the reporting source
China is building more and more coal plants. They are just locating them further away from their major cities.
Micro vs Macro. Micro fluctuations in the climate over the past 50 years doesn’t necessarily mean the “sky is falling” and we need to overreact and put idiotic policy in place that will in most cases have a more negative footprint than what we have today.
As someone mentioned, funding and job security is likely the larger reason for the overall scientific consensus.
My only experience with this is knowing that citrus was only grown up to the Orlando area in the 70’s and now they grow as far north as Valdosta, GA… (the frost line has shifted). But who's to say that won’t shift in the next 50 years back to the south? I don’t think anyone really knows for certain and some of the current policy seems to be a speculated guess at best. Politics… got to love it… not. Husker football is the reason I’m here.
Just my 2 cents… but I’m not a scientist.
As someone mentioned, funding and job security is likely the larger reason for the overall scientific consensus.
My only experience with this is knowing that citrus was only grown up to the Orlando area in the 70’s and now they grow as far north as Valdosta, GA… (the frost line has shifted). But who's to say that won’t shift in the next 50 years back to the south? I don’t think anyone really knows for certain and some of the current policy seems to be a speculated guess at best. Politics… got to love it… not. Husker football is the reason I’m here.
Just my 2 cents… but I’m not a scientist.
Researchers require grants. They go where the money is and ride that train
I actually think a lot of that citrus stuff is genetics done through improved cultivars. No different than Honeycrisp apples can be grown damn near to Canada because of selective breeding. But yes, USDA zones have all shifted north.
So the negative is we have more food to eat.. oh the horror 🤣🤣
As long as the research keeps improving varieties. IMO. There has been a lot of challenges in agriculture lately. Many regions in a drought followed by severe storms. Early springs, late frosts. Need to keep producing improved varieties of all kinds of crops to be able to handle increased variability.
Not sure I follow. It seems like two entirely separate arguments when it comes to global food supply and how everyone else could be impacted by unnecessary policy. If you’re dialed into the world of Ag, they’re intelligent enough to pivot and change pretty quickly as needed… it is after all their livelihood. California is doing it now with Almond production.
I wouldn’t make the mistake of underestimating the American Farmer. They’ll do what they need to do to be successful either way.
Footprint individually is probably 30x30 including the gravel around it’s base plus, probably lost 5-8 acres of pasture due to the road into it. I think in the area ours is located, I can count 75-100 in all directions.
How big is the cement under it. Pretty sure that's wider than 30 and won't percolate moisture
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