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Kansas and OU would be sweet.
Both are politically attached to their in-state brothers
There are no stipulations/agreements holding the schools together and there is nothing the legislature can do to prevent KU from going wherever they want without KSU. If the Big 12 were to dissolve, which as times change (cable cutting - college playoff etc.) it increasingly looks like it will not) KU will act in it's own best interest with no ties at all to consider regarding KSU.Living in Kansas...I am not so sure that is the case. The University of Kansas will get what it wants...especially from the influential politicians on the eastern side of the state...trust me.
There are no stipulations/agreements holding the schools together and there is nothing the legislature can do to prevent KU from going wherever they want without KSU. If the Big 12 were to dissolve, which as times change (cable cutting - college playoff etc.) it increasingly looks like it will not) KU will act in it's own best interest with no ties at all to consider regarding KSU.
Again, outside of Texas, what school/market does not dilute the current revenue structure?
If the dude is suggesting they’re both SEC schools, I would guess Vandy and Mizzou.
In 2011 the then Chancellor of the University of Kansas, Bernadette Gray-Little, made a public statement to that effect just to make the matter clear once and for all. It may have been around the time that Scott (PAC) made an offer to Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Kansas (after pulling his offer to Oklahoma St.). Texas backed out and everyone (Big 12) signed a 13 year GOR instead.I agree...other than sentiment, there is nothing holding the 2 universities together.
That would be difficult to do as Big Ten membership also has an academic coalition.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Academic_AllianceI’m all for a one in, one out approach. More than 14 teams in a conference just gets too complicated and waters down rivalries. If we can get rid of Maryland and Rutgers, whose tradition aren’t worthy of the Big Ten and whose cultures don’t match in the least, then I’d be in favor of adding someone new like Notre Dame or Mizzou. I don’t think Oklahoma, Texas, or Colorado make any sense from a cultural standpoint - not Midwestern states, not close geographically.
It's a huge myth that has been around forever. IF a big, rich, lucrative conference were to offer membership to one of the in state schools but not the other, it would be politically impossible for the politicians to ultimately deny that opportunity to one of the schools. They're just not going to penalize a school that gets such an invite in the end. They'll make noise at the beginning but will cave like a house of cards if there is any serious hint that the deal will fall through as a result of them imposing a condition.Both are politically attached to their in-state brothers
I’m all for a one in, one out approach. More than 14 teams in a conference just gets too complicated and waters down rivalries. If we can get rid of Maryland and Rutgers, whose tradition aren’t worthy of the Big Ten and whose cultures don’t match in the least, then I’d be in favor of adding someone new like Notre Dame or Mizzou. I don’t think Oklahoma, Texas, or Colorado make any sense from a cultural standpoint - not Midwestern states, not close geographically.
Missouri and Oklahoma. Cool.
Mizzou is also a bad fit for the B1G. You do understand that their race riots have decreased enrollment by 35%, right? Mizzou has also closed seven dorms.The SEC would give the B1G a huge thank you if they took Missouri, especially if it was in an expansion of two teams going to 16 which would never happen because its too valuable of a spot. Missouri is a bad fit for the current SEC.
Yuck. For a truly national audience, the B1G would add Army, Navy, Air Force and Notre Dame.Kansas and Colorado? wow...those are horrible programs (Kansas bball is different). You need to get into Florida and get UCF and FAU. Huge markets and a ton of potential. Think Frost would like coming to Florida once or twice a year during the season to recruit? YUP. I don't think anyone in Florida has tuned in for a CU or KU game.
Yuck. For a truly national audience, the B1G would add Army, Navy, Air Force and Notre Dame.
I wouldn't be a fan of Mizzou. Plus I think that bridge, if there was one, burned.Mizzou is also a bad fit for the B1G. You do understand that their race riots have decreased enrollment by 35%, right? Mizzou has also closed seven dorms.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/12/student-riots-slashed-mizzou-enrollment-35-percent-two-years/
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_6e951473-8ee3-5c50-858b-adf1783ad81e.html
You might think you would want Texas and Oklahoma, but would you? Dealing with Texas is a dance without an end or any pleasure in it. With the new blood in KUs athletic department-and a world class Football Coach, 315 million dollars Our Chancellor has approved in updates to Old Memorial KU should be ready for Big 10 competition in short order. Add Missouri to that plate, and the Big 10 has a combination much better for the spirit of the Conference than Oklahoma or Texas. Look at the map and see if you don't agree.I really doubt that Colorado will ever be in the B1G (or anyone from the Mountain or Pacific time zones). I think Oklahoma and Texas are much more likely candidates IF the B1G ever expands again.
You might think you would want Texas and Oklahoma, but would you really? Dealing with Texas is a dance without an end or any pleasure in it. With the new blood in KUs athletic department-and a world class Football Coach, 315 million dollars Our Chancellor has approved in updates to Old Memorial KU should be ready for Big 10 competition in short order. Add Missouri to that plate and the Big 10 has a combination much better for the spirit of the Conference than Oklahoma or Texas. Look at the map and see if you don't agree. This one comes with Pictures folks.
MU is trying its hand at being a Southen State again. It cannot keep up SEC for long. Oklahoma and Texas fit much better in the SECThe SEC would give the B1G a huge thank you if they took Missouri, especially if it was in an expansion of two teams going to 16 which would never happen because it's too valuable of a spot. Missouri is a bad fit for the current SEC.
It's now about TV eyeballs and time zone matching. Kansas and Colorado don't bring enough TV eyeballs for their football programs. Colorado has the added problem of being in the wrong time zone to mesh with the eastern teams. We may hate Texas but there is no denying the financial clout they would bring any conference.You might think you would want Texas and Oklahoma, but would you? Dealing with Texas is a dance without an end or any pleasure in it. With the new blood in KUs athletic department-and a world class Football Coach, 315 million dollars Our Chancellor has approved in updates to Old Memorial KU should be ready for Big 10 competition in short order. Add Missouri to that plate, and the Big 10 has a combination much better for the spirit of the Conference than Oklahoma or Texas. Look at the map and see if you don't agree.
Agree, Missery and Notre Dame better fit, but BIG may want to just maximize $, and to get Texas OU would come along too. Just Texas and Notre Dame would be a financial windfall.MU is trying its hand at being a Southen State again. It cannot keep up SEC for long. Oklahoma and Texas fit much better in the SEC
I would like to see CU in our division of the B1G. Personally, I would like to see the conference expand to 18 teams with 9 in a division. You would then play all other 8 teams with no crossovers, thus determining a true division champ. Return to 4 non conference games
Thanks. But there are two problems with my idea. First, where are we going to find four more teams to add? We could raid the Big 12 I guess and try and get CU, OU, Texas, and Kansas. But that is a stretch. It will probably never happen. Second, if there are no crossover games between divisions in what sense is this a real unified conference and not two separate conferences who have a playoff game in December? Crossover games are hard to avoid therefore.Hmmm.....that's a damn good idea. It would remove "schedule" as a huge factor in determining the division champion. I like that!
It's KU and Oklahoma.
MU is trying its hand at being a Southen State again. It cannot keep up SEC for long. Oklahoma and Texas fit much better in the SEC
Bingo. No way we would ever consider the SEC. B1G and Pac? Absolutely but never the SEC.Texas won't join the SEC for academic reasons. They're a bit prideful that way. It would tarnish their image.