Possible B1G expansion candidate: Colorado

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  1. ajehealth

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    I liked it when conferences were smaller and everyone played each other. Obviously not the case anymore. Oh well.
     
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    Hope you are right
     
  3. vic.valiant

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    Should Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas and Colorado join the Big10 would anybody ever get above .500?

    Oh and btw screw the Domers.
    Go Blue!
     
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    thats why we want ku and cu, if we took them and 0u, the big 12 would fold . then there would only be 4 major conferences, which is perfect for a 4 team play off...the texas, west virginia and oklahoma states would be absorbed by the big east, sec and pac 12...each conferance would have 2 divisions. and play 3 non conferance games, in the 3 other conferences. plus with cu ku and 0u the teams would still have connected borders. if you replaced cu with ut it would be a double edge sword, it would open texas recruiting more, and more tv sets, but you would have strife in the conference, because ut would pull some bs with the big 10 network and say they should get more than purdue, or some bs like that.
     
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    CU ranks higher than NU in academics. NU is dead last in the BIG 10 also. CU and NU need to go back to the BIG 12 and ND has to go to the BIG 10, makes sense academically and geographically.
     
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    The last word of your post is the only part that doesn't matter (relatively). Conferences today are about footprint and eyeballs to get the largest media contracts.

    That being said, I am a fan of geographically-compact conferences relative to today. Much easier to travel to games, and you feel like you know the other schools better because of greater local influence relative to today's conferences.
     
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    I know the OP was talking about expansion from the administrator's point of view and not the average fan, but living in Colorado, I can assure you that the average CU fan has no interest in joining the B1G. CU has always yearned to be in the Pac10/12, where it rubs shoulders with the west coast elites - most feel the University of Colorado is a step above many of the B1G schools academically for sure, plus CU has nothing in common with most of the B1G school geographically and culturally. They are happy right where they are...yes they miss playing Nebraska but they still have little brother CSU to kick around, so that will suffice.
     
  8. Quix0te

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    Frankly, B1G academics rank well above the P12 using any metric you wish to choose (links). If you want to use AAU membership, it's B1G 92%, Ivy League 87% and Pac-12 67%.

    https://herosports.com/collegefootball/ranking-fbs-conference-academic-ranking

    https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/us-news-rankings-of-top-six-football-conferences-092012/

    http://georgiabasketballblog.com/u-s-news-world-report-rankings-conference/
     
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    Yeah regarding academics I wouldn't rate Arizona St., Oregon St., Washington St., Utah over Nebraska.
     
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    I really doubt that Colorado will ever be in the B1G (or anyone from the Mountain or Pacific time zones). I think Oklahoma and Texas are much more likely candidates IF the B1G ever expands again.
     
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    I agree, although I would say CU has more to offer than KU re: overall market and viewership potential, Texas, OU, and Notre Dame are the remaining Big Fish. I'm convinced Texas and OU will leave the Big12 for either SEC or BIG. What is interesting is what will Notre Dame do? Their annual athletic revenue will soon be dwarfed, if not already, by Indiana and Purdue.
     
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    I just shudder at the thought of Texas big wheels pushing all of us all around (again). But maybe Ohio State, PSU & Michigan would not put up with that.
     
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    That's the rub with the Horns, OSU, Michigan, Penn St. might just feel to uncomfortable with them, i.e. , there would be zero trust with Texas, everything would have to spelled out exactly in the agreements.
     
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    "most" would be wrong...

    Colorado would rank dead last in the Big10 were it not for Nebraska.

    Go Blue!
     
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    Nebraska > Michigan St. for sure
     
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    and Rutgers
     
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    No thanks. Culturally they are a better fit with the PAC.
     
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    Texas won't join the SEC for academic reasons. They're a bit prideful that way. It would tarnish their image.
     
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    CU is becoming a bit of a mercenary then. I can see why they joined the PAC 12 but a move to the Big Ten not
    so much.
     
  20. Quix0te

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    Wall Street journal ranks every public school in the B1G except Nebraska ahead of Colorado.

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    I taught at CU from 2013-2017. In the rankings in their mind, their peers are Southern Cal, Northwestern and UCLA. In reality, they're a lot closer to UNL (my alma mater), KU, CSU and Iowa — all of which I've worked for as well. Students don't vary that much from one public university to another.
     
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    Maybe Creighton's brother school, USF should get back into the sport LaughingLurk
     
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    This isn't about academic snobbery. It's about conference revenue. Colorado will be left in the rear sniffing droppings if they stay in the Pac 12. Comcast won't distribute P12 programming and interest in college football is far less in the west vs the east.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03...-the-big-12-in-distributions-to-the-campuses/
     
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    Since when does Comcast refuse to distribute Pac-12 programming? In Colorado, Pac-12 Network is on Comcast's digital basic. It's Big Ten Network that Comcast stopped carrying in Colorado at any price, even if you are willing to buy an extra tier.

    I follow the Buffs and pull for them most of the time, but I don't see CU being particularly attractive to the Big Ten. Doesn't have the population base that Rutgers (which I thought the Big Ten was foolish to add, by the way) and Maryland brought to the table, doesn't have a large fan following in any particular sport and its revenue sports - football and MBB - were recently trending upward but now seem to be treading water.
     
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    My thoughts as well as far as the average fan has no desire to go east. PAC is the place that makes sense for cu.
     
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    I would be surprised to see the University of Colorado return to the Midwest and East for athletics.

    The Big Ten likely goes South ultimately would be my guess, if and when.
     
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    No!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I know the answer to this and The BIG has been in talks with 2 particular teams the last 2 1/2 years and The BIG has done a really good job keeping it hush, hush. One of the agreements that the BIG has agreed to, is keeping these 2 in the West Division and not stacking the deck in the east which they will not like this one bit as they can't do anything about it. The BIG was told if they didn't agree to this, the deal was off the table and they are a package deal. I know who the 2 are. When it is announced, it will send shock waves throughout all of FBS and is something The Mighty SEC will hate and become extremely verbal about it. I will just say that one of my sources is friend that a higher up in The BIG offices. I've known since the beginning of the talks. This is all I will say!
     
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    They are not keeping it hush hush if it is leaving the BIG offices. Shouldn't be telling anyone no matter how good a friend. That's what supposedly sunk Missouri. Couldn't keep their mouth shut, IF they had an invite.
     
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    I never once said who the 2 were and won't
     
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    Understand. But still risky if you are in the know and your name is not Delaney.
     
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    Missouri and Oklahoma. Cool.
     
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    OU is not going anywhere.
    there is no better spot for them in america but where they are.
    the B12 is their league and there is no other league where that would be the case.
    its not always about maximizing the absolute most $$
    its about winning. and OU is right where it wants to be
     
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    Again, outside of Texas, what school/market does not dilute the current revenue structure?
     
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    At a certain point, it will become a matter of the Big 12's imminent collapse (not as unstable as once was, however) and four remaining Power conferences break off from FBS. Couple that with TV markets/footprints, and Oklahoma is an appealing candidate if for no other reason to play keep away from the SEC.

    The question becomes whether Delaney will be able to convince the school presidents/chancellors to go along because Big Ten membership has academic implications greater than other Power conferences.
     
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    I have seen your other posts about OU and let's just say you are wrong. Keep it simple as that.
     
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    Missouri would not be a shock, but Alabama would.
     
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    Sure. The Big 10 can add CU, then add CSU, then maybe Utah, BYU, and then head up north and sweep up Montana and Wyoming. Lol.

    Love visiting those states, great places, but the logic of adding any of them to the Big 10- no.
     
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    Don't forget Boise St.
     

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