I understand you do not like it
But you do not represent any more than 1 very specific sports fan
OT: The PGA Tour, LIV Golf and the NCAA
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But you do not represent any more than 1 very specific sports fan
Saw an article that Tiger is going to get $100 million in equity payments. Rory $50 million and Spieth and JT getting $30 million.
I'd laugh if after the payment Tiger joined somehow with LIV. PGA Tour can only gurgle those Tiger nuts for maybe a few more years before he is irrelevant. Outside of Scottie, who do you tune into watch is my question for the LIV haters?
Fowler - Isn't good anymore and doesn't win shit
Rory - Maybe still has a little luster
JT - Lost his game and isn't likeable.
Speith - Kind of a headcase, but isn't able to carry the PGA Tour
Who are the other "stars" does the PGA have? To me none. There are fantastic golfers for sure, but none that I tune into watch.
I'm sure all the hardcore PGA Tour fans are too busy watching the team event in New Orleans right now
oops wait that can't be right
Hovland is a stud for sure. I like the kid and he was linked to LIV at one point, but he's also pretty quiet and a subtle pro. He could have the makings of a star, but needs more mojo and moxie.
More people will watch that than any LIV tournament ever. The LIV tour where there are 300 people at the event and 10,000 watching worldwide on their computers. Total fail.
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I’ve tried to watch some LIV and to me it sucks. Much rather watch Rory, Scottie, Xander, Homa, Morikawa, Ludvig, Hovland, Sahith, Finau, Zalatoris, JT, Speith, Fitzpatrick etc. Theres some damn good golfers in that list and the young bucks like Ludvig and Sahith have my attention
Ha, was LIV even in the Open? To Kong and Tim, I wouldn't mind a response although neither of you seem smart regarding the subject. To a couple of the other tards, maybe Walleye and some dork I can't remember, LIV is is a rec league where there are like three outstanding golfers, or maybe one, where they don't play real championship golf. If you left, you left. Quit crying because how the LIVers finished in the majors this year was comical. Rahm, Gooch, Johnson, Smith, Koepka, Mickleson, Niemann, Reed, etc., embarrassing. DeChambeau was the only player all year who was worthwhile and i guarantee you, he is regretting his decision even if he got $100M. Quit crying that you want to come back when you left for the money. Embarrassing performances in the majors this year.
I seriously doubt any of the LIV players are regretting their decision.
liv seems to be slipping into obscurity. seeing ole balls phil out their embarrassing himself was sad. but bryson dechambeau, cam smith, tyrrell hatton didn't even make the cut which is even worse because they are liv's lifeline, right? oh well, i didn't miss them until this thread hit my email.
I'm not really a LIV supporter, mainly because I have despised Mickelson for decades. But couldn't slobbering LIV fanboys argue that the LIV Tour is simply undervalued ?
Maybe they'll start daily threads pointing to the Saudi money as proof that their theory MUST be correct.
Because you are a loser like the LIVers like the Garcia, Westwood, etc. who never were good and took the money. People who had a chance like Rahm and Smith are losers now....iike you. Dechambeau lost more money in endorsements than he will ever make in LIV. Chumps didn't regret their decision but even Rahm did at $500M, guaranteed.
A LIV player literally just won the US Open less than 6 weeks ago
Rahm finished T7 this weekend
Sorry about your LIV derangement syndrome, Lou
Sad? He made the cut. PGA keeps trotting Tiger out there and he can't break 75 right now, but good try. Rory, Hovland and a number of the PGA "stars" didn't make the cut either. What is your point? This is the tournament that everyone will struggle with at some point because of the weather. It would be hilarious if Xander made the jump to LIV.
Wow, strong response. Rahm will be really pleased with his strong major showings this year highlighted by his incredible T7 result at the Open. I'm sure he spent the night celebrating and telling his wife how happy he was with his 2024 performances. How many other LIVers were even in the top 20? As I wrote, DeChambeau was the only LIVer worth a crap this year. It's hard to play in a rec league on resort courses against old Euros and then compete in the majors. It can happen but playing limited field events with subpar talent on subpar courses over a weekend makes it much harder unless you are a total grinder like DeChambeau. Guys like Cam Smith and Rahm, guys who had the chance to be great, have to be kicking themselves. They got richer but they were going to be rich anyway.
my point was missed, mea culpa. it was put poorly. i didn't miss the liv stars who faded badly under the pressure of an open championship. further, as someone who spent a career in commerce, much of it m&a, i don't understand what keeps this liv charade afloat other than saudi oil proceeds. it's certainly not talent. the open showed that. with few exceptions - bryson, brooks, rahm - most of the liv members are ole balls has beens: dustin, phil, sergio, kaymer, mcdowell, et al. they couldn't win the sanderson farms championship much less a british in scotland.
There is plenty of talent on LIV. I will actually agree that Phil and a few others are past their prime and LIV is probably perfect for them, but back to Saudi money, who cares? Most of this corporate money is dirty is some aspect. You can see there is a lot of interaction going on and the LIV narrative is going away. The players are all talking, the TV stations are back featuring them and pretty soon they will probably have some sort of a deal.
a merger of some sort is certain to come at some point. there's nothing good about this liv tour. and the pga suffers from the loss of guys like bryson and brooks. the game will be better when they come back.
Agree that the entirety of golf will be better when this is all resolved and the 2 leagues are in perfect harmony again. Kumbaya, my friend, Kumbaya.
One of the main points to the original post was that the PGA f*cked up massively to even allow a separate league to form. They were so arrogant in their thinking that no one would leave their elitist tour that they did not change with the times. Essentially, when the PGA was forced to they made an attempt to finally do something. The whole thing turned out badly -- which never should have happened.
It is also entirely possible that a person can like/dislike players from both sides (and vice versa). That's kind of what a fan is all about. I love Mickelson and hate Tiger. Always have. I like Scheffler, and Xander (team Callaway!!!), JT, and Spieth. I like Koepka, DJ, and DeChambeau. Rory can still bite me (but I am coming around and will likely be a fan of his again someday). I think Jack Nicklaus is still the greatest golfer in history, not only for his tremendous accomplishments but also for being one of the best ambassadors for the game of golf.
And to respond to a previous poster about being smart. I think I was extremely smart to have dumped my load in your mom's arse last night instead of her bonus hole. I am not sure I have enough smart genes in my DNA to offset the stupidity in that family.
(Mods, if this last paragraph is over the line, despite it being good, clean fun, I will delete it.)
Might see a little movement in both tours. Also may see LIV events on TNT next year.
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LIV Golf Signs With Same Agency That Represents The PGA Tour In Potential Sign Merger Talks Are Progressing
LIV Golf and the PGA Tour are now represented by the same agency, CAA, which could potentially be the first major step in
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Pal you’re clueless i am a PGA guy through and through. I just stated that I doubt they regret the decision. And i do think any do with 100s of millions in the bank.
There should be a mixed format end of season tournament between the top 8 or 12 from each tourMight see a little movement in both tours. Also may see LIV events on TNT next year.
LIV Golf Signs With Same Agency That Represents The PGA Tour In Potential Sign Merger Talks Are Progressing
LIV Golf and the PGA Tour are now represented by the same agency, CAA, which could potentially be the first major step in
People would absolutely watch that
The biggest hurdle LIV still has is World Golf Ranking points. Merging marketing firms and getting better TV exposure is a step forward, but until they can get WGR outside of the majors (currently impossible) we will probably not see the best players at the same events.
Would love to see 6-8 events where 8-12 top LIV and PGA players cross over to each other’s tours during the season. PGA guys play LIV and vice versa. Both tours get exposure and see what they are missing (again, for LIV guys) and LIV get opportunity to get WGR points.
Would love to see 6-8 events where 8-12 top LIV and PGA players cross over to each other’s tours during the season. PGA guys play LIV and vice versa. Both tours get exposure and see what they are missing (again, for LIV guys) and LIV get opportunity to get WGR points.
Are you sure? As I wrote, "Chumps didn't regret their decision but even Rahm did at $500M, guaranteed."
Now just out, "Then earlier this month, Golf Digest quoted an anonymous Tour insider who was certain that Rahm regretted his move."
the liv issue, beside its saudi ties, is that many if not most of us do not like team golf, it's the antithesis of what golf has always meant to us: a dude out there winning against the field. the ryder cup being the clear exception. that said, the pga tour is not as entertaining as it was before liv because so much top tier talent has been bought-off. scotty is exceptional. but i doubt he has seven wins if the liv guys were still on tour.
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Josh Carpenter
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LIV viewership from this weekend per
@SportsTVRatings
: 89,000 for Sunday on CW for Jon Rahm's win
Saturday's second round: 134,000.
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Josh Carpenter
@JoshACarpenter
LIV viewership from this weekend per
@SportsTVRatings
: 89,000 for Sunday on CW for Jon Rahm's win
Saturday's second round: 134,000.
89,000 viewers. Hah, that shit is funny. Nobody watches, nobody cares about LIV. Rahm, Koepka, DeChambeau, and Smith are all regretting their decisions. They are complete after-thoughts in the world of golf except at the majors and then most of them aren't prepared because they play on resort courses with limited fields at no cut events with only three rounds. Why would the PGA cave at all to a totally subsidized rec league that nobody cares about? PGA is in the driver's seat in these negotiations.
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