OT- DC commercial plane and Blackhawk collide
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I didn’t wildly speculate on the cause of the crash. I’ve watched several hours of local coverage on DC stations starting minutes after the crash. Everybody is searching for and want answers. There’s more to than just “the chopper pilot was too high”.
Haven’t heard that and the sex of the pilot really doesn’t matter. The onboard pilot had at least 6 years of experience according to TV reports.
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So what evidence do you have that the airline pilot or the age of the plane had anything to do with crash?
If you don’t want to be accused of wild speculation, stop pulling stuff like that straight out of your ass.
Yeah it's not like it was rookies. Gonna probably turn out to unfortunately being the perfect storm or rolling the dice finally caught up. Combination of things
You think he actually has a relative who is an air traffic controller? Lol. This guy magically has a friend or relative for any story he needs to make up.
Pretty sure that they are/were going to release names after all possible bodies recovered. But gotta ways to go.
I don’t know. But my brother-in-law practiced medicine for 40+ years, and I never thought it qualified me to deliver babies or diagnose diseases.
Another brother-in-law has been a Delta pilot for over 20 years. They don’t put the A team on those smaller jets. Generally they’re younger more inexperienced pilots. He started flying cargo planes then these kind of smalker passenger planes before getting to carry more passengers. The plane itself is old but airworthy but might lack technology available in bigger planes.
He’s retired now. Believe it or not I don’t make sh## up. There were 7 kids in my family.
Yeah the pilots cut their teeth on CRJ types and move up with seniority and retraining
Horrible. The race to make every fvcking thing political now is so frustrating. That’s the last thing the families want to hear. Really hard to understand how that could happen.
I love the internet. So fascinating. It's going to ruin this country, but what a wild ride before it does.
Believe what you want. I had 4 sisters. 2 brothers. 5 of us left. All college grads. 1 RN, 2 lawyers, 1 science teacher, myself and a business grad. We didn’t marry deadbeats. You can call me Dr if you want.
I didn’t say I don’t believe you. But I don’t give a shit if your uncles were the Wright Brothers - doesn’t mean you know any more about what caused the crash than anyone else here.
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If you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, then your word is good with me.
I have shared insight from an air traffic control supervisor and a commercial pilot. Stay classy. There are clearly some questions about instructions given by the controller and their timeliness. The “fly behind”instruction is normally used in daylight hours.
Marriot this week. Had dinner overlooking the Potomac tonight.
New report. DCA jet and chopper had a near miss on Tuesday. I’m telling you, I’ve been told this happens more than you know and staffing is an issue. It’s an extremely high stress job that takes extremely competent people at the screens.
maybe the choppers need to pay attention to the ceiling level. If that chopper stays at the level its likely another near miss . I agree it’s a problem that has to be fixed. And sometimes it takes a tragic accident unfortunately.
I think the question is whether the controller’s instruction to “fly behind” the plane was misinterpreted to fly behind the departing flight. In that case he maybe might have elevated to avoid the departing plane’s flight path. According to one pilot on TV, the controller instructions were questionable.
Of course every internet-brained person out there is now an expert in air traffic control and not hiring minorities.
Doesn't give them (2 of the crew were female) permission to breach the ceiling in Class B airspace. They were almost double AGL they are allowed when impact was made. Right by a runway. I am shocked they are allowed to go over 50 feet honestly. Class A is anything above 18,000 feet. Class B are major airports that look like an upside down wedding cake where the airport claims airspace in layers. Class C are regional like Eppley. I live in the outskirts of that airspace and if I want to fly my drone I need real time LAANC authorization on the Autopylot app. If I set the radius to 6 blocks out or more, I cannot go above 200 feet. If I stay under I can go up to 400. That Blackhawk is responsible for the deaths of those on that plane.
There is more. One more. They are supposed to hug the east side of the river and they were right smack dab in the middle of it. By a major international airport that is Class B airspace.
Ceiling height for helicopters are 200 AGL. They crashed into the commercial jet, that has serious limitations at taking evasive action, especially while descending and landing, at 350 AGL. I don't care if they're military, they do not have the authority to not follow FAA guidelines when in controlled airspace. That airspace BELONGED to that commercial jet. So here is my question. Now that you know the ceiling is 200 feet AGL, what do you think happens if they follow that regulation?
It appears that way but the instructions from the controller were problematic as well. The instruction to “fly behind” at night with two planes in the immediate area wasn’t good. Wouldn’t the controller have their (the chopper) elevation.? The military chopper I saw on Tuesday in that exact area couldn’t have been more than 200’ over the river. It’s been determined that one controller was manning 2 positions at the time of the crash. I’m not going to comment on their sexes because the photo I saw pictures of one left some question.
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The photos of the victims of this tragedy are gut wrenching, particularly those of the young skaters.
Remember the jersey drone incident? All the crazy conspiracy theories by all these experts but I don't see anyone over here acknowledging the new group just admitted the old group already explained it correctly. It's so funny. Our own aviation expert dingle was certain it was the Chinese, while he also managed to bring the SPR into the discussion. Which btw, is another subject he is clueless about.
Atc monitor shows the chopper at 200 feet AGL and 7 seconds after they started ascending impact happened. This is pretty cut and dry. The chopper pilot even requested visual separation, which was granted. That gives all responsibility to the pilot of the chopper to maintain that separation. Then, they immediately go and break the ceiling.
There are 19 of 30 positions filled since 2023. And they've had applicants. There is an issue there but it played no part in the events two nights ago.
My brother-in-law is Director of the NTIA and he says that dingleshitz is the biggest troll on this board.
7 seconds. That’s a fairly long time. So in your opinion IF the controller’s attention had been focused on one station instead of two, could they have prevented this accident by directing the chopper to change elevation? Multiple former pilots are absolving the plane’s pilot but questioning the controller’s instruction even though it appears obvious the chopper wasn’t where it should have been.
People are questioning why we fly missions along that river. After walking around the Whitehouse perimeter yesterday and then to the Capitol building yesterday, I can see why we keep air assets in close proximity and patrol that river with them. That river especially at high tide, provides rapid access to the Whitehouse and multiple key buildings for a drone that could take off from a pleasure craft. Flight time from the Potomac to the White House would be a few seconds.
There was a Chinese national arrested trying to flee the country after using a drone to film a U.S. military installation in California recently. Anybody who doesn’t think bad actors are using drones to monitor our sensitive areas are fools. They’ve purchased ag land around some of our military installations in the west for heaven’s sake.
So you are not only disputing the former groups explanation, you are disputing the current groups confirmation as well? Hilarious.
That is what Google is for. I am sure there is a youtube video with a step by step guide for diagnosing disease and baby delivery.
Hey man, stop diluting my clear and undisputed medical expertise. I've spent decades as a doctor's brother-in-law!
No, that is what you call not believing everything that was said or what you read about the drones in NJ. There are in fact foreign nationals flying drones over the US including in and around military installations. To assume that the NJ drones weren't doing the same is really no different than someone that believes the drones flying in California and around the Army Posts in Texas are just your run of the mill everyday folks flying drones.
