IF means IF. IF he had seen it earlier. He apparently tried to pull it up when he saw it way too late. No doubt his singular focus was on the runway and his older plane likely didn’t have the latest accident avoidance tech that might have warned him in time.
I live about 3 miles from Davison field in Lorton, Va. That is where the Blackhawk flight originated. A few years, a Blackhawk was down to the trees right next to our apartment no more than 150 feet away. Maybe as little as 100. Likely from Davison.
Nice! I lived in Montclair for a while when my parents were stationed at Quantico & Pentagon. I don't miss the traffic.
Just face it dingle the stupid bitch flying the helicopter was somewhere she wasn’t supposed to be and killed 66 other people.
She is PIC fault ultimately lies at her feet. She was either stupid or she was evil. I won't speculate but there is no way they didn't see that commercial jet.
It's not airport environment. It is Class B airspace. Everything besides breaching the ceiling is just noise. If you are Military training in Class B, C or D airspace, it is really really really important to respect the ceiling.
So basically it was intentional. Or she's a moron who just killed 64 people because she couldn't take direction.
You were right😕. My inclination to blame a very young commuter pilot and support a military pilot was completely wrong. I hear crow tastes like chicken.
There was a problem there with their staffing which has been addressed by the FAA.
Not buying any of this post .the people in the chopper had the wrong plane is site the whole time.At no time did the tower tell them to change flight directions. Not sure where this bitch is coming from.
That’s true . But my point is where are the getting information that the instructor told her to Change direction. It didn’t come From the tower . Why would he say “they want us to do this “ when there is no audio to back him up .
Doesn’t really matter. Training pilot kept telling trainee that she was 100 ft too high. She acknowledged but never corrected. At what point should he have taken control??
Was the air traffic controller involved in this crash at fault?
Absolutely she was clearly above the ceiling. She caused the crash by doing so . But people shouldn’t make shit up to make it look intentional.
The question is whether or not the controller manning both stations could have prevented the crash if his attention wasn’t split between two stations? We’ll never know but probably not. That was not standard OP though for that airspace at that time of day. The supervisor who let the other controller leave work early may bear some culpability. They have their person to blame so even though they’ve addressed the controller situation and military traffic, I doubt any blame will be assigned publicly to the controller and supervisor.
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Well she intentionally ignored ceiling and commands from flight instructor. Couple minutes later, almost 100 people died.
That is the bottom line that the bottom of America cannot accept.
Yes she to far above the ceiling but she was looking at the wrong plane IMO . She is still ultimately responsible for the crash because that reason. I was extremely critical of her when this happened due that exact reason My point tonight on the post about her disregarding the instructor to change flight direction and saying she intentionally ignored him . I am saying there was no radio communication tape that was released that I heard telling the chopper to do this .if you are going to post something like the tweet in question to accuse someone of intentionally flying a chopper into a plane you better well dam have evidence to back it up.
Evidence? This is a message board. We should not be held more accountable than 'legacy media'. BTW, the United States Armed Forces practice with and deploy helicopters, aka Helos. Choppers are what we use in kitchens to process food.
Flying above the ceiling was a factor but so was the visual separation request and approval. She asked for vis sep, it was granted. The training pilot said, I believe they want us to turn left which would have distanced the helo from the plane. Even at the altitude she was flying, if she turns left at any point during that 15 second period, everyone on both aircraft are still alive.
Where is the information coming from that the tower told them to turn left? That is what i am questioning . All the radio communication that was released between the tower and the chopper I didn’t hear such a request. Untimely the pilot was well above the elevation she was supposed to be flying at so she unfortunately is responsible for the accident.
It does seem illogical for her to have failed to follow instructions. That said, we don’t know if her headset was functioning properly or not. I haven’t heard if she acknowledged the flight instructor. The whole deal was fubo. Start with pilot or crew error. I still question why you let a controller leave early in that air space. Then why in the hell was that middle of the river path an approved chopper flight path? Lastly why the hell were they allowed to fly short a crew member? As I’ve stated previously, when we landed on that runway the day before, there’s no way in hell we were at or above 500’ when we were over the middle of that river.
I think the question (or maybe questions) here.
