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Also named Patterson as his dark horse Heisman candidate.But Desmond said they would win National title!!
that appears to be just really poor intelWasn’t Meatchicken’s defense supposed to be the best in the nation?
This is good except I can’t stand ND either.
time to transfer big brother.Dylan Mccaffrey in for Michigan
I remember the days when many of us looked towards Harbaugh and McElwain with longing eyes. Funny how things turn out.
So the Bo Pelini argument(tm). For some fans and programs, the QUALITY of your wins and losses is more important than how many times you have beat up inferior opponents. Getting beat in every major game you play is not going to warm peoples' hearts.Expectations were/are crazy high for Harbaugh - understandably. Having said that, he has averaged more than 9 wins per season - has played in a major bowl and finished in the top 10 in his first three years. Many are labeling him a bust. Is our staff going to outperform these results in the first 3 years? And if not, is the narrative going to be the same for Frost as Harbaugh?
So the Bo Pelini argument(tm). For some fans and programs, the QUALITY of your wins and losses is more important than how many times you have beat up inferior opponents. Getting beat in every major game you play is not going to warm peoples' hearts.
Doesn’t Harbaugh have the benefit of top 10-15 recruiting classes that Frost doesn’t have?Expectations were/are crazy high for Harbaugh - understandably. Having said that, he has averaged more than 9 wins per season - has played in a major bowl and finished in the top 10 in his first three years. Many are labeling him a bust. Is our staff going to outperform these results in the first 3 years? And if not, is the narrative going to be the same for Frost as Harbaugh?
Doesn’t Harbaugh have the benefit of top 10-15 recruiting classes that Frost doesn’t have?
If Frost loses 6 games this year (I don’t think he will, but many on here seem to think he will), then he can only lose 2 games total the next two years or he will not have the same record over 3 years that JH does.
I don’t think it is a valid comparison due to their respective starting points...
If our offense looks pedestrian like Michigan's, yeah, something is up. Two offensive gurus at Michigan scoring 7 points.Expectations were/are crazy high for Harbaugh - understandably. Having said that, he has averaged more than 9 wins per season - has played in a major bowl and finished in the top 10 in his first three years. Many are labeling him a bust. Is our staff going to outperform these results in the first 3 years? And if not, is the narrative going to be the same for Frost as Harbaugh?
You wanna bet on thatThe shine is off the apple. Harbaugh will tuck his tail between his legs and head back to the NFL after this year.
I bet if he wins 8 or fewer games he will go back to the NFL after this season.You wanna bet on that
Yep, Harbaugh could be in some hot water if he doesn't do something this year. Starting to remind me of BO. Consistently good at being slightly above average.Didn’t expect this at all.
I remember the days when many of us looked towards Harbaugh and McElwain with longing eyes. Funny how things turn out.
He will definitely be in hot water if this continues. When you are being paid Urban Meyer/Nick Saban level money but have Bo Pelini/Harbaugh kinds of results, you don't get forever.
No one's saying 9 wins is some huge success. However if a coach is getting 9 wins every year, he's probably doing a decent job and doesn't deserve to be fired.Many continue to use the 9-game mark as a sign of success. In this day and age, 9 wins is not exemplary. Today, we have conference championship games and longer seasons.
being ranked in the top 25 is more importantNo one's saying 9 wins is some huge success. However if a coach is getting 9 wins every year, he's probably doing a decent job and doesn't deserve to be fired.
And what did the previous guy do with those top 10-15 recruiting classes?Doesn’t Harbaugh have the benefit of top 10-15 recruiting classes that Frost doesn’t have?
If Frost loses 6 games this year (I don’t think he will, but many on here seem to think he will), then he can only lose 2 games total the next two years or he will not have the same record over 3 years that JH does.
I don’t think it is a valid comparison due to their respective starting points...
And what does that have to do with comparing Harbaugh to Scott Frost? Is Scott Frost starting at the same level that Harbaugh did? Not even close… In terms of talent and schedule. I’m not sure what you’re getting at here…And what did the previous guy do with those top 10-15 recruiting classes?
I'm not exactly sure either but while Harbaugh did coach in the NFL, did he have good success there? For a couple years, yeah, then he slid off. Don't quote me when I say this, but it looks like Harbaugh may be slipping in Michigan like he did in San Fran. Frost did go to the NFL for six years but hasn't really played a ton, but went to northern Iowa, then to Oregon (kickass offense), UCF, then here. The difference? Frost had a longer line of success. Sure, it will take a while, but Frost will be kicking hard ass.And what does that have to do with comparing Harbaugh to Scott Frost? Is Scott Frost starting at the same level that Harbaugh did? Not even close… In terms of talent and schedule. I’m not sure what you’re getting at here…
I'm not exactly sure either but while Harbaugh did coach in the NFL, did he have good success there? For a couple years, yeah, then he slid off. Don't quote me when I say this, but it looks like Harbaugh may be slipping in Michigan like he did in San Fran. Frost did go to the NFL for six years but hasn't really played a ton, but went to northern Iowa, then to Oregon (kickass offense), UCF, then here. The difference? Frost had a longer line of success. Sure, it will take a while, but Frost will be kicking hard ass.