What the hell are you ranting about?!Sorry it hurts your feelings that if Leipold was coaching in Corvallis instead of Lawrence and never coached at UNO everyone would rightly be calling for Trev's head.
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What the hell are you ranting about?!Sorry it hurts your feelings that if Leipold was coaching in Corvallis instead of Lawrence and never coached at UNO everyone would rightly be calling for Trev's head.
He was a winner at D3 and in the MAC to a lesser degreeWell, if you had bothered to read the complete thread, I was responding to WHCSC who suggested the success that LL has experienced at Kansas is similar to Chadwell’s success at Coastal Carolina due to his outstanding quarterback. I don’t think this a fair criticism, since LL won championships with more than one quarterback.
Also, a case can be made for LL winning six D3 championships because despite Whitewater being a very good football program and making it to the championship game, it was LL that got them over the hump, SIX times.
Bottom line, LL is a winner.
... so if he was a completely different person? what a weird post.Sorry it hurts your feelings that if Leipold was coaching in Corvallis instead of Lawrence and never coached at UNO everyone would rightly be calling for Trev's head.
I'm not disagreeing with you.Well, if you had bothered to read the complete thread, I was responding to WHCSC who suggested the success that LL has experienced at Kansas is similar to Chadwell’s success at Coastal Carolina due to his outstanding quarterback. I don’t think this a fair criticism, since LL won championships with more than one quarterback.
Also, a case can be made for LL winning six D3 championships because despite Whitewater being a very good football program and making it to the championship game, it was LL that got them over the hump, SIX times.
Bottom line, LL is a winner.
He was a winner at D3 and in the MAC to a lesser degree
Great reply and I agree completely!I'm not disagreeing with you.
I believe LL didn't recruit their QB (Les Miles did) but he's not exactly some unicorn, and there'd be plenty of QB's that caliber that would come to Nebraska.
And people wonder why Trev didn’t fire Frost last fall on a shorter time frame? The KU collapse is making hiring him more difficult IMO. I have to believe things are still very fluidWhy do have to settle for a coach who's about to go 6-6? KU can keep him.
He’s virtually identical to Matt Rhule after Rhule’s second season in Baylor. Difference being he’s doing it with less talent and he’s not a fat slobWhy do have to settle for a coach who's about to go 6-6? KU can keep him.
Very, VERY important point people. How many of our candidates are fat slobs? They must immediately be taken off the list!he’s not a fat slob
only Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema but they're rare.Very, VERY important point people. How many of our candidates are fat slobs? They must immediately be taken off the list!
Are you serious?! “And people wonder why Trev didn’t fire Frost last fall on a shorter time frame.” Four years is a short time frame?!And people wonder why Trev didn’t fire Frost last fall on a shorter time frame? The KU collapse is making hiring him more difficult IMO. I have to believe things are still very fluid
Putting myself on the line here... and Rhule isn't even my guy! If MR is the pick, you can't tell me you'd judge a coach based on his waistline? I mean their are exceptions... Weiss and Mangino.only Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema but they're rare.
tell me with a straight face this looks like a confident leader of men:
Haha. Rhule isn't exactly a fat slob; he's "wide-boned" (but for sure he's overweight).He’s virtually identical to Matt Rhule after Rhule’s second season in Baylor. Difference being he’s doing it with less talent and he’s not a fat slob
Big-boned my dude! 😉Haha. Rhule isn't exactly a fat slob; he's "wide-boned" (but for sure he's overweight).
That's what I meant!Big-boned my dude! 😉
Those people were justified, NU lost 7 Bowl games in a row. That's hard to do.Remember the early 80's and people thinking that Nebraska couldn't win the big games.
He is, LL gets it, the only question I have is could he recruit to NE, playing some games in CA should help recruiting the west coast.The qb's he's developed at Kansas, the running backs he brought in and developed at Buffalo, there's more than enough evidence to suggest he knows what the hell he's doing on offense regardless of recruiting rankings. Open up the checkbook for a defensive coordinator and I'd be excited and supportive 100%.
I'm tired and this is a really stupid conversation to have. Maybe we should be worried about how much they drink and party instead, eh? How about hot tub times? Golf times? Terrible country music choices? Seems the last guy here who was in pretty good shape liked those things and he failed miserably. Maybe those things should be high on Trev's reason for DO NOT HIRE list.only Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema......
Because you don’t blow millions and a wasted season on LL.How exactly do you know?
Scott Frost was straight-up jacked! Andy Reid is a pig! Therefore, Scott Frost > Andy Reid.
Reid gets a pass cuz he’s old and probably has 5 years left maxshow me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship.
Andy's been "big" his entire life.Reid gets a pass cuz he’s old and probably has 5 years left max
Whitewater has zero titles before LL and zero since, despite being historically good.Well, if you had bothered to read the complete thread, I was responding to WHCSC who suggested the success that LL has experienced at Kansas is similar to Chadwell’s success at Coastal Carolina due to his outstanding quarterback. I don’t think this a fair criticism, since LL won championships with more than one quarterback.
Also, a case can be made for LL winning six D3 championships because despite Whitewater being a very good football program and making it to the championship game, it was LL that got them over the hump, SIX times.
Bottom line, LL is a winner.
Those people were justified, NU lost 7 Bowl games in a row. That's hard to do.
Dude - 9-4 sounds amazing right now - we are the worst D1 P5 program in the country.I don’t see the parallels myself between him and Riley. I think Leipold could give us Pelini type of results 8-4 to 9-3 consistently. Don’t believe we would ever get over the hump though
That’s a interesting theory. So do you take medical or recreational weed?only Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema but they're rare.
tell me with a straight face this looks like a confident leader of men:
I listened to his press conference after the big Texas loss the other day and I liked what I saw - a passionate rationale guy with energy who was very disappointed but put it all on himself. I think he has what we are looking for in personality and commitment. Let's face it we are not going to get five star Rivals players here unless it is Urban. We need coaches who can do more with less. I think he his the one..LL is a proven winner, maybe “average” winner; but a winner nonetheless. We need to win again. I would be okay with this hire..
They're not the same coaches at all. I still think Nebraska should be setting it's sights much higher.Don't even think it's comparable. Riley was a pushover coming in. Leipold is no pushover.
We're not going to have a job opening a year from now. Think! We're not dealing in hypotheticalsRhule did far more at Baylor toward the end of his time there than leipold has done. I wouldn’t have wanted Rhule after 7-6 at Baylor. If Leipold wins 11 games next year sure, hire him I think I would feel better. He’s not there now, I don’t want him now. Not complicated.
I like Aranda and he had a great year last year but is 6-5 this year. He hasn’t been HC many years and it remains to be seen if he can maintain long-term success by identifying, recruiting, and developing talent once Rhule’s guys are gone from his roster.true, but I wouldn't brag too much on his D3 Championships. the best case for Leipold is he turns around places that historically are very bad, which is arguably a greater task than what he would need to accomplish here and thus speaks to possibly being able to win quickly.
before Leipold, Buffalo only had 3 winning seasons this century. I don't think I have to explain Kansas, they have been a total doormat sans the brief Mangino period.
contrast that with Rhule. He's credited with "turning around Temple" when Temple had 9 win, bowl game attending seasons under the two coaches that preceded him. what he did at Baylor has been a contentious topic, but the fact of the matter is his Baylor stint is book-ended by coaches that did better than he did, which speaks to the fact that being able to comprise your roster of 80% Texas talent in your back yard makes it more likely you'll string together some nice wins.
Looks like Bill Belichik to me…..only Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema but they're rare.
tell me with a straight face this looks like a confident leader of men:
I like Aranda and he had a great year last year but is 6-5 this year. He hasn’t been HC many years and it remains to be seen if he can maintain long-term success by identifying, recruiting, and developing talent once Rhule’s guys are gone from his roster.
Rhule has twice shown that he can recruit and develop a winning roster. Two 10-win seasons at Temple and an 11-win season at Baylor after the massive scandal aren’t a fluke. He had a number of NFL offers because people recognized his abilities.
AgreeSome encouragement for LL in this thread as next coach
What we’ve learned - top 5 in no particular order
1) He’s not fat.
2) he’s an average “winner”… not sure what that means but you put the word winner in there so maybe it’s good? 🤷♂️… thinking it means he’s average at FBS (45-47 record) but DIII he’s a dam winner!!! And 3 is more than 1, so that’s gotta be good right?
3) he can take a loss well.
4) he acknowledges he’s to blame for blow outs (not sure how that’s good if he was the cause of the blow out but at least he acknowledges it)
5) Lance can’t recruit but we can’t recruit 5-stars anyways so let’s not recruit 4-stars either. 5.5 3-stars or below only. Let’s keep expectations low please. Let’s only recruit players who don’t have high expectations so that way they don’t get emotional after we lose. That way they “know who they are already and don’t have some crazy notion in thinking their special”
For a second I thought that was Barney C, but he isn’t wearing a t-shirt with holes in itonly Rhule, as it happens. show me a fat guy in their 40's that won a national championship. you can't, because people who can't control/take care of themselves have difficulty being leaders of men. there are outliers like Bret Bielema but they're rare.
tell me with a straight face this looks like a confident leader of men:
What if Trev announces a week from today that Lance Leipold is the 34th Head Coach at Nebraska..
How disappointed would you be in the hire?
Heard there is some smoke with this.
Bottom line is all of us and I mean all of us who are not part of the hiring process have no idea who the next HC will be. What I take from posters when they say this man will or will not be the head coach really have no idea, it's all about preference. I wish people would just say this is the coach I want or don't want, to say this coach won't or will be the next head man is pure speculation by all of us.I’ll preface by saying I would absolutely support Leipold if he was our coach. I wish I knew who Alberts and CSA have narrowed the job down to, but I don’t know because he, Doug Ewald and CSA have everybody completely spinning. They are putting on a clinic in hyper-media era.
What I do know is that anything short of a CEO I don’t think Alberts would tolerate or hire. He has also eliminated a lot of names just with his discourse in press conferences. Trev wants trench development on both sides of the ball, not just OL. I do think LL is a rising CEO, but he is aging, and I just don’t see him being the CEO Alberts will offer/hire. I also think Alberts is also trying to do all that he can for Mickey to stay on staff.
Please do hold me to it – I’ll explain when we don’t hire him 😉