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If you had $100 to put down on who the new HC will be..

It probably won‘t be Mickey. If Trev wanted to hire him he would have done so by now in order to add stability to recruiting and to allow MJ to start building his own staff.

The difficulty in predicting who it will be resides in the fact that we simply do not know if Trev has offered the job to a few coaches but was turned down and is now in full-on panic, scramble mode. That is the nightmare scenario here. Just how attractive is this job anymore? Which is why a dark horse candidate nobody is talking about is really possible. Or … Trev keeps striking out and ends up hiring Mickey and then gets to claim with public plausibility that Mickey was his guy all along.

But if we assume that the job is still attractive and that there is interest in it then we are looking at 2 scenarios here. First, Trev already has his guy and he is a sitting head coach and so we will not know until the end of the season. Or second, his choice is a current coordinator like Bill O'Brien or a guy like Rhule and he is waiting to make the announcement until we lose to Michigan and are officially bowl ineligible.

Therefore, I would not bet a single penny on any candidate right now. I just hope to God it is not Campbell, Klieman, or Leipold. Aranda would be better than all three of those guys and I think Trev knows that. I do not see Kiffin or Mark Stoops coming here so Aranda is just who it might be. And so if you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a bet I would place my penny on Aranda.
 
It probably won‘t be Mickey. If Trev wanted to hire him he would have done so by now in order to add stability to recruiting and to allow MJ to start building his own staff.

The difficulty in predicting who it will be resides in the fact that we simply do not know if Trev has offered the job to a few coaches but was turned down and is now in full-on panic, scramble mode. That is the nightmare scenario here. Just how attractive is this job anymore? Which is why a dark horse candidate nobody is talking about is really possible. Or … Trev keeps striking out and ends up hiring Mickey and then gets to claim with public plausibility that Mickey was his guy all along.

But if we assume that the job is still attractive and that there is interest in it then we are looking at 2 scenarios here. First, Trev already has his guy and he is a sitting head coach and so we will not know until the end of the season. Or second, his choice is a current coordinator like Bill O'Brien or a guy like Rhule and he is waiting to make the announcement until we lose to Michigan and are officially bowl ineligible.

Therefore, I would not bet a single penny on any candidate right now. I just hope to God it is not Campbell, Klieman, or Leipold. Aranda would be better than all three of those guys and I think Trev knows that. I do not see Kiffin or Mark Stoops coming here so Aranda is just who it might be. And so if you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a bet I would place my penny on Aranda.
trev has no experience as a p5 coordinator so he’s destined to fail

or so goes the logic of many a dipshit “Husker Fan”
 
Whoever the new coach is I feel we who are Nebraska fans need to lower our expectations and give the new coach time to tear down and build up the program. I don't think there is an easy fix for our program and the sooner fans understand this the better.

I feel we need to stop expecting immediate results and give the new boss time to build it right. Trev Alberts now has the most important job of any power five AD in the country in my opinion and he can't mess this one up or Nebraska will become just a footnote in College football history if they haven't already.
 
Whoever the new coach is I feel we who are Nebraska fans need to lower our expectations and give the new coach time to tear down and build up the program. I don't think there is an easy fix for our program and the sooner fans understand this the better.

I feel we need to stop expecting immediate results and give the new boss time to build it right. Trev Alberts now has the most important job of any power five AD in the country in my opinion and he can't mess this one up or Nebraska will become just a footnote in College football history if they haven't already.
Not surprising, especially coming from this poster

has notre dame signed their B1G papers yet? Lol
 
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The Nebraska Football Head Coaching position is wholly unique

there is not a single thing someone can bring with them from a previous stop that will translate

this has been proven time and again, yet many insist on ignoring history as opposed to learning from it

really sad to see my fellow Nebraska Fans just outwardly and proudly proclaiming they have zero vision or ability to see the forest for the trees
 
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For those who say Leipold or Klieman would be home run hires, why is the Nebraska job they only one they are mentioned as candidates. Home run hires are guys that would be considered for any and all of the top jobs. Klieman and Leipold aren't listed as candidates for Auburn, Leipold was mentioned early on at Wisconsin but not much anymore.
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It seems like he doesn’t like being an after thought to basketball either.
Would not be a problem here, although volleyball casts a big shadow!
 
The Nebraska Football Head Coaching position is wholly unique

there is not a single thing someone can bring with them from a previous stop that will translate

this has been proven time and again, yet many insist on ignoring history as opposed to learning from it

really sad to see my fellow Nebraska Fans just outwardly and proudly proclaiming they have zero vision or ability to see the forest for the trees
It's all a crap shoot though. Nobody has anymore insight than anybody else here because this job has been so behind the times since TO. There's a solution for this place to be sure, and it does need to be soon - if not already too late. But nobody knows what that truly looks like until it happens or not at all.
 
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It probably won‘t be Mickey. If Trev wanted to hire him he would have done so by now in order to add stability to recruiting and to allow MJ to start building his own staff.

The difficulty in predicting who it will be resides in the fact that we simply do not know if Trev has offered the job to a few coaches but was turned down and is now in full-on panic, scramble mode. That is the nightmare scenario here. Just how attractive is this job anymore? Which is why a dark horse candidate nobody is talking about is really possible. Or … Trev keeps striking out and ends up hiring Mickey and then gets to claim with public plausibility that Mickey was his guy all along.

But if we assume that the job is still attractive and that there is interest in it then we are looking at 2 scenarios here. First, Trev already has his guy and he is a sitting head coach and so we will not know until the end of the season. Or second, his choice is a current coordinator like Bill O'Brien or a guy like Rhule and he is waiting to make the announcement until we lose to Michigan and are officially bowl ineligible.

Therefore, I would not bet a single penny on any candidate right now. I just hope to God it is not Campbell, Klieman, or Leipold. Aranda would be better than all three of those guys and I think Trev knows that. I do not see Kiffin or Mark Stoops coming here so Aranda is just who it might be. And so if you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a bet I would place my penny on Aranda.
Hey, this is a $100 bet, now pony up that other $99.99! :)
 
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It's all a crap shoot though. Nobody has anymore insight than anybody else here because this job has been so behind the times since TO. There's a solution for this place to be sure, and it does need to be soon - if not already too late. But nobody knows what that truly looks like until it happens or not at all.
it's always a crapshoot when you're aiming at turds (liepold, kleiman, campbell, etc)

Mickey would be the polar opposite to every one of our underwhelming, never win anything division foes, which is exactly what we should be begging for

instead, a large majority simply want to become them - a couple going so far as to say we should be happy lowering our expectations or turning into wisconsin

absolutely pathetic in every single way
 
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I just want it to be someone who knows wtf they are doing. A coach that checks as many boxes as possible. Luckily none of us have to make this decision.
 
because Auburn thinks they should be Alabama, and they will continue to cycle through coaches until they accept they're doomed to be the little brother of the state.

per their fans, their home run hires are guys like Deion, Kiffin, and Freeze. I'd put Freeze in the category of home run for Nebraska as well, but I don't see that happening unfortunately.

If Kiffin were to come to Nebraska and turn around this shitshow, he'd bolt for Alabama the day Saban retired. Deion is a totally unknown commodity that could be phenomenal, but could also be Turner Gill 2.0. And given how important he's stated that helping the black community is to him, I don't envision him coming to a state that is 90% white. Auburn is perfectly content to take that risk, fire him in two years, and roll the dice again.

I think most Nebraska fans would agree that we'd just like to see success similar to that of Michigan/Wisconsin/Penn State; win most of your games, beat a couple ranked teams, always be in the conversation for the B1G CCG, maybe even a dark horse CFB playoff contender every 5 years. Leipold and Klieman seem capable of that, and realistic as a long-term fit.

Auburn fired the only active coach with 3 wins over Nick Saban, so its silly to compare their expectations to ours when we have a much more reasonable understanding of the CFB landscape.
When you hire guys like Leipold and Klieman your ceiling is Wisconsin, you don’t have to worry about anything else.
I don’t care about long term fit. I don’t care if Kiffin comes in, turns it around and then bolts for Alabama. He wouldn’t get that job anyway. But if he turns it around, the job remains attractive and you go get the next guy, if he does leave.

if your goal is not to reach the CFP annually when the playoff expands to 12 then I don’t want that guy as coach. If a fan is content with reaching the 12 team CFP every 5 years then expectations are lowered. The underdog mentality will be in full effect. You can miss me with that line of thinking.

but you do you.
 
When you hire guys like Leipold and Klieman your ceiling is Wisconsin, you don’t have to worry about anything else.
I don’t care about long term fit. I don’t care if Kiffin comes in, turns it around and then bolts for Alabama. He wouldn’t get that job anyway. But if he turns it around, the job remains attractive and you go get the next guy, if he does leave.

if your goal is not to reach the CFP annually when the playoff expands to 12 then I don’t want that guy as coach. If a fan is content with reaching the 12 team CFP every 5 years then expectations are lowered. The underdog mentality will be in full effect. You can miss me with that line of thinking.

but you do you.
Who's on your list?
 
When you hire guys like Leipold and Klieman your ceiling is Wisconsin, you don’t have to worry about anything else.
I don’t care about long term fit. I don’t care if Kiffin comes in, turns it around and then bolts for Alabama. He wouldn’t get that job anyway. But if he turns it around, the job remains attractive and you go get the next guy, if he does leave.

if your goal is not to reach the CFP annually when the playoff expands to 12 then I don’t want that guy as coach. If a fan is content with reaching the 12 team CFP every 5 years then expectations are lowered. The underdog mentality will be in full effect. You can miss me with that line of thinking.

but you do you.
you have a completely unrealistic idea of the state of Nebraska football

but you do you
 
When you hire guys like Leipold and Klieman your ceiling is Wisconsin, you don’t have to worry about anything else.
I don’t care about long term fit. I don’t care if Kiffin comes in, turns it around and then bolts for Alabama. He wouldn’t get that job anyway. But if he turns it around, the job remains attractive and you go get the next guy, if he does leave.

if your goal is not to reach the CFP annually when the playoff expands to 12 then I don’t want that guy as coach. If a fan is content with reaching the 12 team CFP every 5 years then expectations are lowered. The underdog mentality will be in full effect. You can miss me with that line of thinking.

but you do you.
If and when the right coach comes along and NU is beginning to compete for a Division/BIgTen title, it will not be long until the drums start to beat as to why the Huskers are not in the CFP.

As time goes along, and NU fails to get into a 12-team playoff, the natives will become restless and another coaching change will likely occur.

After playing 10th fiddle for so many years, the heat will come on to return NU to its "rightly" place among college football.

In recent years, we've been subjected to scrounging for scraps, and as soon as a winning mentality emerges again, the desire to return to the limelight will be too much to resist.
 
The bar has been so low the last 8 years does it really matter it can’t be worse.
 
I would argue that you have lowered your expectations to the point that being Iowa is ok with you. So yes to me, that is unrealistic.
then it'd be your problem for not understanding what I said.

I would be fine with Ruhle or Kiffin.
two guys that have the same ceiling as Pelini, and yet you're opposed to being Wisconsin-tier.

makes sense
 
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LL was 5th on Callahan’s list today:


Stoops
O'Brien
Rhule
Doeren
Lipoid
Field
Mickey

Are you sure you weren’t thinking of Sipple. He is very high on LL, but also said he agreed with this order:

Rhule
Stoops
Leipold
Doeren
MJ
O’Brien
Field
So much of this is a matter of money. You throw enough of it at most people and they'll go anywhere. Rhule has a very high, steady income no matter what he does. Personally, if I were him I'd just travel the world, buy a massive plot of land to raise goats, and retire.
I have Mickey as the most likely because he is already here.
 
So much of this is a matter of money. You throw enough of it at most people and they'll go anywhere. Rhule has a very high, steady income no matter what he does. Personally, if I were him I'd just travel the world, buy a massive plot of land to raise goats, and retire.
I have Mickey as the most likely because he is already here.

Something tells me Ruhle is still interested in being a high level football coach. I doubt the end goal was to get enough money, by being fired, to disappear and raise goats, but you never know I guess.
 
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And as I wrote before, when you want to run you don’t hire a guy that has leg braces on, because the best he will ever do is walk.
Pretty lame analogy. Klieman kept it rolling at North Dakota State which was the minimum expectation. And now he has built Kansas State into a top 20 program capable of beating anyone in their conference. He is probably the best coach in the Big 12 when you consider what he doesn't have to work with. He elevated them as much as could be expected, and is now ready to step up to a bigger stage, ala Nick Saban to LSU. Nick Saban is not Nick Saban if he stays at Michigan State. He's Barry Alvarez.

I don't know what Klieman is thinking. Maybe he's satisfied with above average.
 
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then it'd be your problem for not understanding what I said.


two guys that have the same ceiling as Pelini, and yet you're opposed to being Wisconsin-tier.

makes sense
Other than both Ruhle and Kiffin putting an emphasis on recruiting and both being offensive minded coaches, and both having coached in New Year's day six bowl games, yep same ceiling.
 
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Pretty lame analogy. Klieman kept it rolling at North Dakota State which was the minimum expectation. And now he has built Kansas State into a top 20 program capable of beating anyone in their conference. He is probably the best coach in the Big 12 when you consider what he doesn't have to work with. He elevated them as much as could be expected, and is now ready to step up to a bigger stage, ala Nick Saban to LSU. Nick Saban is not Nick Saban if he stays at Michigan State. He's Barry Alvarez.

I don't know what Klieman is thinking. Maybe he's satisfied with above average.
This might age like an avocado

surely the best coach in the conference can at least get to a conf championship game?
 
Pretty lame analogy. Klieman kept it rolling at North Dakota State which was the minimum expectation. And now he has built Kansas State into a top 20 program capable of beating anyone in their conference. He is probably the best coach in the Big 12 when you consider what he doesn't have to work with. He elevated them as much as could be expected, and is now ready to step up to a bigger stage, ala Nick Saban to LSU. Nick Saban is not Nick Saban if he stays at Michigan State. He's Barry Alvarez.

I don't know what Klieman is thinking. Maybe he's satisfied with above average.
He was an FCS coach for 19 years before he even attempted coaching at the top level.
 
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Other than both Ruhle and Kiffin putting an emphasis on recruiting and both being offensive minded coaches, and both having coached in New Year's day six bowl games, yep same ceiling.
Tuco's updated requirements:

1) never win the conference
2) lose most of your bowl games
3) lose to most ranked teams

may as well just bring Pelini back for you
 
Tuco's updated requirements:

1) never win the conference
2) lose most of your bowl games
3) lose to most ranked teams

may as well just bring Pelini back for you
Is the list of former D3 national champion coaches to go onto sustained national D1 success longer or shorter than the list of WR coaches turned head coaches who did the same?

Just curious
 
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