Tough guy
Eh. The people saying these kinds of things know little to nothing about what actually took place. Grain of salt.
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Yep, him not getting the job was his excuse to leave. I agree, he didn't really want to be here.
Not sure how much that was really a competition.Zac Lee / Cody Green / Taylor Martinez in 2010
Yep, him not getting the job was his excuse to leave. I agree, he didn't really want to be here.
Yep, him not getting the job was his excuse to leave. I agree, he didn't really want to be here.
They may have a better version of AMart already on their roster.Looking at Chips recruiting class, it looks like he isn't recruiting anyone right now.
I agree he didn't want to be here as a 4 year back up.
Yep, him not getting the job was his excuse to leave. I agree, he didn't really want to be here.
However it all went down, it seems pretty evident that Gebbia probably knew what he was going to do before Frost announced who the starter was. He had to know this was at the very least a 50/50 deal and that he had better have a contingency plan. IF he didn't, he's not as smart as we think he is. It's the way it is in college football. No hard feelings and I wish him well.Everybody has to put yourself in Gebbia's shoes before bad mouthing him. How would you feel in his shoes if you truly felt you had at minimum been equal to Martinez in the competition. If you were told by quite a few teammates that they felt you had won the competition. You had been told early on that Frost himself would be letting the competitors know who won the competition. When time comes not only does Frost not let you know but then lets out that the decision had been made 2-3 days prior already. Put those things in your thought process before passing judgments on Gebbia!
I played at the D2 level in a probably the best league in the country before NDSU, SDSU, UND, USD, Northern Colorado and UNO departed for division 1. It's not division 1, but if you played at the collegiate level for a good coaching staff who preaches buy in to the team concept, regardless of whether it was juco, d3, d2, d1, or NAIA, then you understand what I'm talking about. If you played and don't care, then maybe team doesn't mean as much to you. It does to me.At what level did you play? What position? Did you have realistic expectations to make the NFL? Could you throw a football over a mountain?
It seems very petty to leave because coach Frost didn't tell you in person. I can understand him being mad and upset, but the leave town 24 hours later. If he wanted to be here, he wouldn't have let something like that drive him away.I understand why you think that, but it is wrong.
Yes agree, 100%. He was only staying to get the starting job. Not because he loved his team mates, or Lincoln, or the University, or the coaches. It was about him. When he didn't get what he wanted, he bailed.If he really didn’t want to be here he would have left in the Spring.... He thought he could start that is why he stayed...
Those offensive starters need to re-examine their sentiments with TG leaving. At some point, you have to love the one your with. I don't blame TG for leaving and I know he had a lot of respect from his teammates but he's gone. Time to rally around your starter. You wish TG the best in life and move on.If not close then why are there other offensive starters that do not like this decision?
Question - can anyone find evidence of Frost stating that he was personally going to inform the two QBs of their status? You have been posting that Frost in some way treated Gebbia poorly. What exactly did he do, other than have Mario have the conference with the two kids?True, but if things happened differently this weekend, he would likely still be here.
They also don't leave the second things don't go their way.So everything we’ve ever heard about his time here is BS? Because guys that don’t want to be somewhere don’t bust their ass and have the relationships that he had (reportedly).
You have derailed.
It seems very petty to leave because coach Frost didn't tell you in person. I can understand him being mad and upset, but the leave town 24 hours later. If he wanted to be here, he wouldn't have let something like that drive him away.
Are you saying that Gebbia is leaving because Frost didn't tell him in person, as opposed to leaving because he is not going to get much playing time?It seems very petty to leave because coach Frost didn't tell you in person. I can understand him being mad and upset, but the leave town 24 hours later. If he wanted to be here, he wouldn't have let something like that drive him away.
You are not being fair. It appears it was a day or so after things didn't go his way, after he reflected on how poorly he was treated.They also don't leave the second things don't go their way.
Remember this team was in very mentally fragile state last year. While I think it is much better. I wonder how much it affects them.Those offensive starters need to re-examine their sentiments with TG leaving. At some point, you have to love the one your with. I don't blame TG for leaving and I know he had a lot of respect from his teammates but he's gone. Time to rally around your starter. You wish TG the best in life and move on.
That is what others are suggesting.Are you saying that Gebbia is leaving because Frost didn't tell him in person, as opposed to leaving because he is not going to get much playing time?
I must not be understanding everything that has happened. Besides Frost not directly telling him he wasn't starting, how was he treated so poorly?You are not being fair. It appears it was a day or so after things didn't go his way, after he reflected on how poorly he was treated.
I'm good with him leaving before fall camp starts. Once you go to camp, you're in on the season. That's just my opinion and obviously not everyone will agree, and that's okay. From experiencing fall camp and knowing how important it is to the season, once you show up for camp, you're all in with your brothers. If you're not all in, then don't show up to camp.Your initial post was that if he wanted to leave, he should have left earlier. He didn’t want to leave earlier. He wants to leave now, only because he now understands there is very little playing time in his future. Had he known one month ago that the plan was for him to be a backup at best for the rest of his time here, I’m certain he would have left earlier.
Who knows, maybe in subsequent conversation he was told that the QB One Line was a bit more clear cut that he thought it was. As in, he was decidedly going to be a backup.I must not be understanding everything that has happened. Besides Frost not directly telling him he wasn't starting, how was he treated so poorly?
I loved NU, my fraternity and Nebraska. I had a great college girlfriend who I later married. I still gave up my senior year to further my professional goals at a University 5 hours away because that is what I needed to do. I could have waited a year and possibly still gotten in to the program I wanted BUT I didn't have any guarantees I would still have that opportunity. You do what you think you have to do regardless of how many friends you have to leave behind. This decision is a MAJOR career decision for Gebbia and all of the hurt feelings by our fans is laughable. He didn't owe us, Frost or his teammates anything other than a handshake and a goodbye.Yes agree, 100%. He was only staying to get the starting job. Not because he loved his team mates, or Lincoln, or the University, or the coaches. It was about him. When he didn't get what he wanted, he bailed.
Lots of folks are on the "TG's gotta do what's best for TG" bus, but the above is a very fair take as well.I'm good with him leaving before fall camp starts. Once you go to camp, you're in on the season. That's just my opinion and obviously not everyone will agree, and that's okay. From experiencing fall camp and knowing how important it is to the season, once you show up for camp, you're all in with your brothers. If you're not all in, then don't show up to camp.
His teammates need him to be successful. Maybe Stan Morgan is fine with it. Go get yours. but if I sacrificed for years and stuck through coaching changes and worked my tail off to have a chance to win our senior year, and then one of his two scholarship QBs leaves 5 days before the opener, I'm feeling like he quit on us because he didn't want to deal with adversity.
Again, transfer before camp or after the season. Once camp starts, we're all in on the season. Don't bail on your teammates now, 5 days before the season opens. And its okay if people think I'm wrong or disagree with me. Maybe I am. I'm willing to admit I could be wrong. I've thought about this a lot. I want the kid to do well, but I think the team is more important than anything else. I felt it when I was in college.
Hope it was just a miscommunication/ misunderstanding. Not one of those things, like hiding the closet back in the day. A tough/ uncomfortable situation, and he hides.
Question - can anyone find evidence of Frost stating that he was personally going to inform the two QBs of their status? You have been posting that Frost in some way treated Gebbia poorly. What exactly did he do, other than have Mario have the conference with the two kids?
For all you and I know, Frost learned of TG's "contingency plan" and wasn't happy about it.
I don't fault him for leaving. He has every right too. I fault him for how he did it. It seems very petty and childishI loved NU, my fraternity and Nebraska. I had a great college girlfriend who I later married. I still gave up my senior year to further my professional goals at a University 5 hours away because that is what I needed to do. I could have waited a year and possibly still gotten in to the program I wanted BUT I didn't have any guarantees I would still have that opportunity. You do what you think you have to do regardless of how many friends you have to leave behind. This decision is a MAJOR career decision for Gebbia and all of the hurt feelings by our fans is laughable. He didn't owe us, Frost or his teammates anything other than a handshake and a goodbye.
So what were the "several other things"?It was only later when he learned of several other things that he and his father decided it was in his best interest to leave.
Specifically, what do you know? And how did Frost "f" the whole thing up. Do you have Frost's office bugged? Hacked emails? Perhaps Mueller needs to be brought in on this.All I can tell you what I know.
I think he f'd up this whole situation, but he is a smart guy and I am sure he will handle a similar situation much better next time.
Obviously neither of us were there to say yes or no.Since it never happened, you are comparing the current situation to a fairy tale.
While I agree with your post, coaches should also be held to the fire when they do not do what they say they are going to do.
There is more than just Frost not telling the Qb's in person who the starter was. I would bet that many of you that are bad mouthing Gebbia for leaving now would be doing the exact same thing if you were in his shoes. It is always true that when one does not know the whole story of something it is better to wait to express opinions about situations you know little about. When told Gebbia had no plans on leaving. It was only later when he learned of several other things that he and his father decided it was in his best interest to leave. I can tell you I have no problem with him leaving and hope Frost learns from all of this. He needs to!
How else was he going to do it? He had no choice at that point. Frost repeatedly has said that once the decision was made that his starter was going to get a long leash. That's telling the backup that you basically have no chance of unseating the starter. Frost named AM so Gebbia had to make a decision and make it quick. There's nothing childish or petty. He made a grown up decision that I'm sure was extremely difficult for him. He has a bunch of friends on campus and more than likely a girlfriend or girlfriends. This was not an easy thing for him and we need to just thank him for his efforts and the way he represented NU publicly.I don't fault him for leaving. He has every right too. I fault him for how he did it. It seems very petty and childish
I don't fault him for leaving. He has every right too. I fault him for how he did it. It seems very petty and childish
Translated - Scott Frost was petty and childish.He wasn't the only one that was petty and childish.
I must not be understanding everything that has happened. Besides Frost not directly telling him he wasn't starting, how was he treated so poorly?
True, but if things happened differently this weekend, he would likely still be here.