Seems changes need to be made with these NIL deals and the portal. It seems reasonable that NIL contracts be held binding with pay contingent on the player still being on the team and not transferring out with penalties paid if they do? With Crawford he made money off NIL and got a full year of free education and contributed nothing to the football team and is now transferring. Seems universities and businesses could avoid getting screwed and maybe provide these kids with more incentive to stay if they could lose money by transferring.
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Blame this 100% on the outgoing president of the NCAA. The man is a woke coward... He purposefully sabotaged college football with his last 2 major decisions. This now opens the door to a minor league system for the NFL.
Yes NIL and uncontrolled transfer portal has ruined the sport
You can be as hardball as you want but there’s almost certainly schools around the country who will undercut your terms and leave you paying second and third tier players.
Pandora’s box is open. We wanted to be one of the big boys and big boys get to feed the money pit.
Pandora’s box is open. We wanted to be one of the big boys and big boys get to feed the money pit.
I'm sure every NIL contract is unique and likely covers all these scenarios. In this particular case, I don't know how much money was involved but the company sure got a lot of free publicity out of the deal. So I'd say they likely got their moneysworth.
Nothing is stopping anyone from putting contingencies in NIL contracts....but good luck getting the best players if you do.
do you honestly think the air conditioning business didn't get a good ROI from that deal?
people need to separate NIL from anything having to do with what a kid does on the field
We got people losing their minds over what coaches get paid when it's not their (tax) money, and now we got people losing sleep over how a business spends their advertising budget.
Totally depends on how much money the kid got and the cost of the ads. If they planned on using the commercial over the next few years its return on investment will drop exponentially as the players notoriety will drop to zero.
but they gave everything that people wanted.. everyone said they wanted all these things..
(sound familiar?)
I always just assumed NIL deals had language in them that if you leave, the biz doesn't have to pay you anymore. Seems reasonable....if companies are signing kids without a similar clause, they're taking a risk I wouldn't be comfortable taking, but it's their right to do so. On the other hand, I have never actually seen an NIL contract. For all I know, some of them are just one big lump sum? Maybe some are monthly payouts? Maybe other?? I honestly don't know.
...and for the record, I hate the NIL and transfer portal.
...and for the record, I hate the NIL and transfer portal.
Who ****ing cares? Are you paying the players? Way to many bitches worrying about how other people spend their money
I think the NIL groups will learn their lessons and do what they can to maximize their own gain/interests within the allowed framework.
But these early years are a learning curve.
The bad news is you want the NIL groups working as best they can in alignment with your team’s own interests… but the team “can’t be involved.”
So it’s messy in that regard.
But these early years are a learning curve.
The bad news is you want the NIL groups working as best they can in alignment with your team’s own interests… but the team “can’t be involved.”
So it’s messy in that regard.
Has nothing to do with him being 'woke' and everything to do with him and other university presidents not taking this issue on directly. They knew it was coming for years. They knew they were going to lose in court and kept trying to kick the can down the road. It wasn't them being 'woke', it was them being incompetent.
From the NCAA website ncaa.org
FOSTERING DIVERSITY AND GENDER EQUITY
The NCAA believes in and is committed to diversity, inclusion and gender equity among its student-athletes, coaches and administrators. To further that mission, the NCAA’s Board of Governors created the Pledge and Commitment to Promoting Diversity and Gender Equity in Intercollegiate Athletics, which commits those who sign it to achieving ethnic and racial diversity and gender equity in hiring sports practices. Developed out of a member concern for the low representation of racial and ethnic minorities and women in coaching and athletics administration at all levels, the pledge has received widespread support since its launch in 2016, with more than 700 university presidents and almost 100 conferences signing on.
To some degree this is because they are never taught how to deal with life before coming to campus.
MANAGING MENTAL HEALTH
The NCAA provides resources to help college athletes, coaches, athletics administrators and campus partners better understand how to address mental health concerns. The NCAA has partnered with leading organizations to develop best practices (PDF) and training modules for coaches and administrators in support of student-athlete mental well-being. The goal of these resources is to encourage a culture in which reaching out for mental health care is normal and expected.
None of this is related to NIL.
Every major organization in the country has a department related to diversity and gender equality. Is treating people equally and with respect 'woke' or is it called just being a decent human being?
Secondly, the last 3 companies I worked for all have mental health lines for employees. The NCAA has had several athletes in the last few years who have committed suicide. Would you prefer them not to offer mental health counseling and more suicides?
Not everything is the 'woke boogeyman'.
It's hilarious that you think Diversity/Equity/Inclusion Departments have anything to do with treating people equally and with respect.
Define
Merriam Webster
Woke
: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
But we will only succeed if we reject the growing pressure to retreat into cynicism and hopelessness. … We have a moral obligation to "stay woke," take a stand and be active; challenging injustices and racism in our communities and fighting hatred and discrimination wherever it rises.
Allowing male students to participate in female sports is the definition of woke.
Mental Health is borderline for me, when you take the truth out of society and deal strictly in the "gray" or lies, it is hard to deal with life. Life is black and white, truth or lies, but if there are no absolutes young people can not deal with life. There is "male and female" only! No alphabet soup organization can not change this truth. The lie is "pronouns", you can be who you want to be. When you continually try to put a label on people you miss the truth. Mental Health professionals do not do any people any favors by keeping them in the pronouns to make them accept a lie. This is where mental health fails. There are many people needing help because the truth no longer exists.
My last thoughts on this.
This is what they're supposed to be doing. I'm not the one implementing anything. I choose to treat people of all backgrounds fairly and equally.
From dictionary.com "diversity, equity, and inclusion: a conceptual framework that promotes the fair treatment and full participation of all people, especially in the workplace, including populations who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination because of their background, identity, disability, etc."
Again, it is less the 'woke boogeyman' and entirely Emmert's (and the university presidents who enabled him) incompetence related to NIL. The NCAA knew they were going to lose and still spent millions of dollars ($300+ million over the last 7 fiscal years) on legal fees. Did the NCAA have a plan if they lost the case? Nope.
True cost to the NCAA revealed in landmark case paving way for NIL
The NCAA is paying for fighting against the Alston case that paved the way for NIL, quite literally after their tax records were revealed.
Here's one article listening some of his many failures.
Mark Emmert exits after turning NCAA into an embarrassment - Sports Illustrated
Pat Forde writes, “If there is a less respected current CEO of any organization, I don’t know who it is.”
www.si.com
Other than moving parts around more often, the NIL and portal have had very little impact on college football and recruiting class. They are pretty much the same now as they were a few years ago. The best recruiting teams remain at the top and so on.
They paid him $8,500 to do that slap dick commercial.. I think they'll be ok
As time goes on, the way and amounts of NIL money that is paid out will more than likely get tweaked, how it is today will evolve, after all, there’s only so much money to go around.
Whomever puts up the cash would like some kind of return on investment, winning football or other sports being high on the list.
Whomever puts up the cash would like some kind of return on investment, winning football or other sports being high on the list.
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What do you expect, given the current “it’s not fair that others have stuff I want, without putting in the work” mindsetWe got people losing their minds over what coaches get paid when it's not their (tax) money, and now we got people losing sleep over how a business spends their advertising budget.
How many kids inadvertently screw their chances of playing football beyond college because they're dicking around for a few nil dollars and transferring around? Choose a school, get locked in to the culture, get to work, and then make some cash on the side. It seems short-sighted for a lot of these kids. I don't fault them for making some money, but their priorities are screwed up
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