IF one never ventures off the interstate I can see why they would think there’s no surprises. BUT ask the dumb bitch if she’s driven across Eastern Washington. Talk about nothing. There’s lots of really cool spots in Nebraska but ya gotta look for them.
Hated Lincoln growing up. It's actually a pretty sweet college town now. Downtown and campus are so much better than 30 years ago. Probably one of the better places to send a kid. Decent sized city without some of the big city trouble.
Add to this playing in a conference full of weaklings for years, roided players with a S&C advantage, partial qualifiers, allowing a thug & hazing environment, amongst other things all helped.
For **** sakes how obtuse can you be? I’m not claiming that her image of Nebraska is a valid one. I am claiming that her image, though false, is a common one among outsiders to the State. Nor is she a dumb bitch. She has driven across Nebraska and finds it dull. So do I when I drive from Omaha to North Platte. But my point, which you utterly miss, is that this is exactly what outsiders think of our State. And if you don’t think that is true then you are simply completely oblivious to reality.
Lincoln was big enough for me to find trouble in college but small enough for the cops to say “just pay for the damages and we’ll forget it happened”. Not sure that’s how it works there anymore. Man we did some stupid stuff. 🥴
Plus county scholarships. We were NIL before NIL.
Don’t get the Hanes in a wad. I noted that IF you never get off the interstate I can see it. That said I don’t drive across southern Minnesota and ignorantly claim there’s nothing to see there. She’s ignorant and I’m sure happy to stay that way. I’ve driven across much of the country and I would never assume much about a state by where they put the interstate.
i think the dullest part of any state i have driven is the interstates. cant think of one contradiction to this. makes sense too.
Fine. But you still missed my point. Don’t care if her views are incorrect. Don’t care if she is a dumb bitch as you stupidly called her. Her views are very common ones. That was my point. But carry on with your “stupid bitch” line of inquiry. She is actually a delightful and highly intelligent person for the record. But carry on…
And my deeper point is this: we need a world class coach who can create a unique Nebraska identity and brand that is different from most others. Someone said this above and it is 100% true. Like Oregon or Nebraska of old, we need a unique football signature. But if our “brand” is to be like everyone else only “better” because we are landing all kinds of top end elite talent then we are going to be a flop. We will never be that kind of a program. Even under Osborne we were not that kind of program. He knew that too which is why he built the system he built.
As much as I LOVE and welcome the idea of having a “brand” and something to hang our hat on, so to speak, I just dont agree pennsy. You are being too doomsday.
I believe the culture Rhule is instilling will pay dividends. How many other programs have starting O and D linemen coming back for their 6th year? Yeah NIL is a factor but this wouldn’t have happened with Frost or Riley.
I think our roster has some talent. Alot of young talent. I think we have a number of players that would be very sought after in the portal. If we have a similar hit rate on the 2024 class as 2023 we could be in great shape going forward.
Maybe. But name one school in the plains west of the Mississippi and East of Idaho that has an elite college football team. There is a reason for that. I am not being a doomsdayer. I grew up in Lincoln. Sold coke in the stands as a kid. Rabid Husker. Love my State. Love Lincoln. Family all over the State. But I have lived long enough now outside of the State to fully appreciate how negatively most people on the coasts and in other big population centers view Nebraska. There is a reason, pathetic as it is, that they call the plains “fly over country”. Nebraska football will never compete with the kings of bling. Never. Only NIL money by the bucket loads can change that.
Disagree. I have met tons of people from around the country who love Lincoln. Lincoln must host a bunch of conferences because I meet a lot of people who love downtown Lincoln. Sure, you have people who have never left NYC or Florida, but you don't need to recruit 20 million kids. Rhule needs 10 to 20 non-Midwest recruits.
Off topic but what is the status of a new convention center in Lincoln? I would love that. And your point is a good one. Rhule just needs to find 20 kids a year from outside of our region. But they have to be 20 blue chip guys for us to compete with the elite teams again.
This is really not fair to Dylan. Like most of the top ten recruits every year, change High Schools and commit and de-commit. How simple to commit to one NC team and then to the next NC team. Gets people off his back because it is what was expected of him. Much easier than committing early to a team that had not had a winning season in 5 years. I think he always wanted to play for Nebraska.
This is Reason #1 for hope. Reason #2 is the fact that NU is dead last among Power 5 teams in turnover margin over the last 20 years, and it's not close. On Sept. 10, NU had a -105 turnover margin since the 2004 season, and the next worst team was at -55. We closed the season at -116 for the 20-season span. Despite that, our won-loss record over that span is 132-105. It's insane to turn the ball over so consistently over a 20 year stretch, and it's whacko that NU has a winning record in spite of it.
West of the Mississippi and East of Idaho? What does that leave like a dozen schools (sarcasm). Should we narrow it down further to north of Norman and south of Fargo and get it to 6?
If can get the best player in Hawaii after 7 losing seasons we can recruit plenty of good players. Would be much easier to win and the recruiting will sell itself.
I find that hard to believe. Schools like Lake Stevens, Archbishop Murphy, O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, Chiawana, Camas, Bellevue, Eastlake, Skyline, Gonzaga Prep, Kennedy Catholic, Graham-Kapowsin have been on ESPN and play schools from other states. I have an old Nebraska buddy who also ended up here in Washington who teaches at Graham-Kapowsin. He reads this Board as well so maybe he will join in on this discussion. G-K finished runner-up in 4A to Lake Stevens. I think this was the 3rd year in a row. Former Husky starting Qb Dylan Morris who got beat out by Penix Jr played at G-K. My friend tells me they have 4-5 players who are going to get FBS scholarships. There is a good football culture here. Bellevue was rolling with players like Budda Baker and Myles Jack until the coach got caught cheating by the state governing association. Something about how he was recruiting players. They all do it. Kellen Moore's dad was a very innovative coach at a 2A school in farm country, Prosser, Washington. He ran a fast break offense with Kellen passing to ball to brother Kirby and a kid whose name I cannot remember who played slot receiver at U Dub.
Oh that’s right, thank you for reminding me that the Big 8 Conference was so much weaker than all those other conferences, we had so few Academic All-Americans, and that program that Boyd Eppley put together wouldn’t have done squat hadn’t it been for the juice. I had forgotten what a rogue program Osborne ran in Lincoln with all those NCAA violations. 🤔
Ran across an article this morning on Blye Hill, FCS portal CB. He is from Baltimore, played FCS in Pennsylvania. He actually said that he was told Lincoln is in the middle of nowhere. So when he arrived in Lincoln he was pleasantly surprised with the size of the city. The negative opinions can easily be turned into a positive by getting kids to Lincoln. A kid/family staying in downtown Lincoln and hanging out on campus is not going to feel like they are in a podunk small town.
well your friend and your nebraska buddy are certainly entitled to their opinions, but i'm gonna trust the experts that rank the schools and the fact that hardly any NFL players went to high school in Washington. a 4A Washington school would get absolutely trounced by 6A football from any state.
playfootball.nfl.com
Lincoln is an awesome city. The trick is to get over the negative recruiting hurdles about Lincoln being a cow town in order to get the recruits to come here.
I think every staff has got a top 10 recruit to visit Lincoln. Not a concern for me. We just have to actually win I'd we want to step up recruiting. Pelini had Andrus Peat. Riley had Parsons and I believe another OT from Cali. Rhule has already had Raiola, Baker, Frazier, on campus and he's barely been here a year.
I can't tell you how important this point is and how it cannot be overstated. The fall of Nebraska football is directly related to Bill Callahan and everyone that followed him trying to "modernize" the offense.
yeah that's cool if you want to be Iowa.
Part of your problem pennsy is youre making the mistake of thinking 3* and 4* kids are different than other 4* and 5* kids. They are not.
Being Iowa would be a MASSIVE upgrade compared to what NU has become.
It was mentioned early in this thread, but FCS football over the past decade has been dominated by schools in Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. Yes, its a lower level of football, but whatever level you play at, success is highly tied to coaching, talent, and a culture of success breeding more success. When I look at the rosters Montana and SDSU who are in the championship this year, while there are a fair share of local kids, there are also a lot of kids from around the country. Doubt most of those kids grew up dreaming about playing football in the Dakotas or Montana. They are there because they want to win and taste success.
no it wouldn't. Iowa routinely gets a cupcake schedule in the Big 10 and opens with 3-4 warmup games.
