Yant
- Thread starter leodisflowers
- Start date
To clarify, he did go home for a couple of days but was at practice this week.
I’ll say it again… coaching beef aside, not going into a game when asked ultimately means he let his teammates down. Perhaps he took a stand against Frost, and it may have even been justified. That being said, you’ll have a hard time convincing me that the rest of the team that was still trying to win the game appreciated the fact that he put himself first at that point in time. Wrong time to do it.
What I am saying is Frost doesn't know how to manage a team of alpha players.
Based on what? Again, not picking a fight but statements like the bolded are just tossed out without context or circumstantial proof. If it's just your opinion, I'm fine with that, but you make it sound so declarative.
Players don't just refuse to go in to the game for no reason. Something happened that caused that. I am 100% positive it reflects poorly on Scott or the staff in general.
I would love to know if (1) he refused to go back in the game and (2) if so, why? Clearly something happened but you're too anxious to throw the staff under the bus without considering that maybe he was just a prima donna. Or not, and that's the point.....we fans don't know the details so absolute statements mean nothing.
But let's keep cheering and waving pom poms for a coach that continues to nose dive the program and lower the talent level of the team.
As opposed to what? A full year of bitching about a coach, a program, players? Or maybe holding judgement until the results of the new O staff are out there. I choose not to live with sackcloth and ashes.
And yet most on this board loved MW when he was churning out yards and scoring TDs. I sure did. And when I learned what he did, that honeymoon was over, at least for me.
Yant was a gamble, and maybe it won't work out. But please stop trying to convince anyone that other programs don't take risks and reaches.
Last edited:
For the love of God, please give examples. And remember, you said "rarely".
nebraksa has far more reaches on their roster than almost every other power 5 school and it isn’t close
based on math
the average roster size in the big ten is about 105
Nebraska’s roster is 150+
the difference in those numbers =reaches
You do realize that difference is the walkon program at NU, right?
Gotta give those county scholarships to somebody.
Their lead recruiter is gone also. Never liked what he brought in like guys with two knee surgeries that wasted ships.
Let me see if I got this right.......
(1) You said NU has more reaches that any other B1G program.
(2) We both agree it's the walkon program.
(3) Doing the math (see what I did there?), you want to get rid of the walkon program so NU's percentage of reaches is the same as the rest of the B1G.
Profit!
Well, there you have it. Frost is too soft and can't hold his team accountable.
yes I would like to see Nebraksa get down to a manageable roster size - instead of having the worst player-to-coach ratio in power 5 football
I can respect this. I don't agree with you, but at least you were clear about your opinion.
EDITED FOR EXPANSION:
You do realize that there are a couple of starting linebackers--and damned good ones--would be lost without the walkon program.
So you don’t know what happened but are sure it is Scott Frost fault? Not the kid making bad decisions or the position coach actually interacting with him? Got to be Scott Frost some how.
The whole premise that someone else must have done something to make him mad, so he isn’t responsible for his actions is ridiculous. People are responsible for their actions. You don’t get a pass because you are mad or someone did something to you. If he refused to go in the game does it matter if it was because he was upset with his PT, or upset about how hard Held was on him or got his feelings hurt because the OSU players are big meanies?
And I don’t know what happened or even if he did refuse to go in the game. But the idea that someone isn’t responsible or at fault for what they do because they are mad or sad or whatever is absurd.
Last edited:
I didn’t say get rid of the walk-on program - most schools carry about 20-25 walkons
We’ve only beaten one power 5 team - I would say we are pretty lost
Could be Frost Could be held
But I agree that our rb utilization drove me nuts and it's been that way for awhile.
Usually 1 will surface as your bellcow. We never developed or established a real pecking order and seem to use certain backs in strange situations.
But yant showed strength, speed, size and toughness who was hard to bring down. His stiff arm moves were highlights when he got rolling.
He was raw and a freshman. I had high hopes for him
Okay, but your premise remains flawed.
TO had a huge walkon platoon and he won more nattys than Bob Devaney.
Last edited:
😂 Had word gotten out that this incident happens and Frost did nothing, the torches and pitchforks would have been out because he’s too soft or doesn’t demand toughness. It’s a lose-lose situation
PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENT
Linear thinking will make some ppl on this board give you pinch you won't forget.
Held was fired. Needed to go. Stepp said Held was the reason he came here, but Ron Brown was teaching them how to run the ball.
Why did Ryan need to go?
Do you think Ryan was the guy making the choices on who played during the game or during the week?
I highly doubt that.. more likely Frost himself or maybe Lubick had some involvement, but the offense is being run by Scott.. he's got his fingers in all of it.
Do you think Scott asked Austin who the center should be or did he just state that Cam was going to be the starting center a few years ago?
Did he ask who the QB would be from Verdu? C'mon, you know the answer to that.
This is the kind of playground bs management style Scott has, and why I feel he is the problem, not the assistants.
The assistants took the blame, and dips hit is going to get another year, and if all else stays the same, we will get the same results.
Guess who is coming back? (from another website)
" Has Frost had any conversations with Adrian Martinez about the quarterback returning for another season in 2022? Those conversations have been happening quite a bit, Frost said, but no decision has been made yet.
“I want what’s best for him obviously. He’s poured a lot into this, I believe in him so much. I see him every day and I believe in him,” Frost said. “I think we can still get a lot better around him. Obviously, if he’s back, he’s going to have a new coach and some new ideas. We’ll figure that out in about nine days.”'
That looks to me like AM is coming back.. no where in there did Frost outline his departure.. instead, he outlined the future with a new coach and new ideas...
Scott does not decide starters for every position. This is false. Who would you have started at center? At qb?
Yant isn't an alpha player. He's a dumbshit if he wasn't injured and wouldn't go back in the game. I've been a big booster of him since last spring but I can do without him if he's going to be that way. To quote that great philosopher and motivator, "can't win with players like that. Don't want them. Don't need them".
maybe mamma kicked his ass, told him to quit whining and get back to work. The guy has potential but he's nowhere near irreplaceable. I'll take Marvin Scott over him at this point.
Why do you think he refused to go in? if you were in his shoes, what would have had to happen to elicit that kind of response?
Years ago I was coaching some middle school FB. Had this super nice sweet kid on the team. We were up big and I wanted to get him in so I went over to him and said "Hey, John, I am going to get you in at safety, okay?" and he looked at me and said "No thank you"
