Why would Frost choose NU over Florida?

[BigRedLegion]

What has Scott Frost proven? He hasn't proven that can compete with the upper echelons of college football. He hasn't proven that he can recruit and build a football team. He hasn't proven he can sustain a program over a period of time. He hasn't proven much as a head coach. He was blown out by Arkansas State 10 months ago in the bowl game (the one game where you get to prepare and show what kind of coach you are).

So with that said, good luck to Scott at Florida. Hopefully he CAN prove all of those things above. Then we can bite the bullet and pay him $5MM a year and lock $20MM+ up for one man. Absolutely no chance we can take that risk at Nebraska right now.

What has Scott Frost proven? He hasn't proven that can compete with the upper echelons of college football. He hasn't proven that he can recruit and build a football team. He hasn't proven he can sustain a program over a period of time. He hasn't proven much as a head coach. He was blown out by Arkansas State 10 months ago in the bowl game (the one game where you get to prepare and show what kind of coach you are).

So with that said, good luck to Scott at Florida. Hopefully he CAN prove all of those things above. Then we can bite the bullet and pay him $5MM a year and lock $20MM+ up for one man. Absolutely no chance we can take that risk at Nebraska right now.

The upper echelon. I dont know if you've been watching but NU struggles with bad teams. NU is not close enough to the upper echelon to even think about competing with them. Scott turned Ucf around immediately and is still progressing. Is he the only coach that can fix this thing? No but I think hes earned a shot. One thing is for sure the current staff has to go.

 

[YouGotSwatted!]

Urban Meyer proved he could hang with the big boys at Utah. Scott Frost has not. Urban Meyer was a head coach for a lot longer than 1.5 seasons. Big difference.

Utah was a mid major at the time, and Scott Frost might turn an 0-12 team to 11-0. He doesn’t need to prove anything. Again you would’ve never hired Urban b/c you would’ve wanted to see him at another P5 first. You’ve lost touch with reality.

 

[supersport24]

What has Scott Frost proven? He hasn't proven that can compete with the upper echelons of college football. He hasn't proven that he can recruit and build a football team. He hasn't proven he can sustain a program over a period of time. He hasn't proven much as a head coach. He was blown out by Arkansas State 10 months ago in the bowl game (the one game where you get to prepare and show what kind of coach you are).

So with that said, good luck to Scott at Florida. Hopefully he CAN prove all of those things above. Then we can bite the bullet and pay him $5MM a year and lock $20MM+ up for one man. Absolutely no chance we can take that risk at Nebraska right now.

You can name many others who

What has Scott Frost proven? He hasn't proven that can compete with the upper echelons of college football. He hasn't proven that he can recruit and build a football team. He hasn't proven he can sustain a program over a period of time. He hasn't proven much as a head coach. He was blown out by Arkansas State 10 months ago in the bowl game (the one game where you get to prepare and show what kind of coach you are).

So with that said, good luck to Scott at Florida. Hopefully he CAN prove all of those things above. Then we can bite the bullet and pay him $5MM a year and lock $20MM+ up for one man. Absolutely no chance we can take that risk at Nebraska right now.

The same could be said for Tom Osborne, Barry Switzer, Bob Stoops, and Dabo before taking over a program. They all actually proved less than Frost. There are more examples if you want them.

 

[scarletred]

If he’s successful at UF he’s not coming home. Apparently you’re one of the idiots that wants to “wait and see” with frost.

Using your logic Urban Meyer would’ve never been hired at UF.

I wouldn't call him an idiot for thinking that. It's a good point, but then again we would all kick ourselves in the ass if Frost becomes successful some where else other than Nebraska.

 

[Suhrreal]

Utah was a mid major at the time, and Scott Frost might turn an 0-12 team to 11-0. He doesn’t need to prove anything. Again you would’ve never hired Urban b/c you would’ve wanted to see him at another P5 first. You’ve lost touch with reality.

Urban beat teams/programs like Texas A&M, Arizona, BYU, and others while he was at Utah. Utah is not Central Florida with regards to recruiting, enrollment, and many other advantages. He was a winning head coach over many seasons before Florida bit the bullet. Who has lost touch with reality?

 

[TwinsRRUs]

tennessee has offered gruden 10 million
https://www.seccountry.com/tennesse...den-10-million-year-also-eyeing-bobby-petrino
sec going to be hiring some coaches this year
florida
tennessee
most likely
texas a&m
arkansas

Jon Gruden coach at Tennessee in 1987 but has been out of college football since 1990...

That's a long time to have been out of college football.

He is a good coach.

How many NFL coaches have made good college coaches?

I know Lovie Smith is not making a very good college coach and Bill Callahan ended up not being a very good coach in the college ranks.

$10 million is a hell of a lot of money and if he takes it I hope he succeeds, but nothing says desperate quite like $10 million.

Surely they could pull a great coach away from another college team for a $10 million that is at least proven in college football.

 

[Suhrreal]

I cannot wrap my head around how ridiculous this is.

The only thing that is ridiculous is guaranteeing a guy $20MM who has not yet proved he can do any of the things I stated above. I guess the only thing more ridiculous than that is thinking a guy will take many less millions just to come home.

You can name many others who

The same could be said for Tom Osborne, Barry Switzer, Bob Stoops, and Dabo before taking over a program. They all actually proved less than Frost. There are more examples if you want them.

And how much did those guys get paid to take over those programs???

Are we now on the same wavelength?

 

[supersport24]

The only thing that is ridiculous is guaranteeing a guy $20MM who has not yet proved he can do any of the things I stated above. I guess the only thing more ridiculous than that is thinking a guy will take many less millions just to come home.



And how much did those guys get paid to take over those programs???

Are we now on the same wavelength?

Who cares. The best Nebraska is going to do is take someone who is doing well at a lesser school or a top assistant and hope
they turn into the best big thing. Scott Frost is the most logical choice because he knows what Nebraska is all about. If
Frost does well here you have him for 20 years and don’t have to worry about him leaving as long as he is treated right.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Pass on 13 million?

Sounds like he would. Not my call.

 

[YouGotSwatted!]

Urban beat teams/programs like Texas A&M, Arizona, BYU, and others while he was at Utah. Utah is not Central Florida with regards to recruiting, enrollment, and many other advantages. He was a winning head coach over many seasons before Florida bit the bullet. Who has lost touch with reality?

You’re losing ground with every post. Using your logic Va tech would’ve never hired fuente, Clemson would’ve never hired Dabo, etc. - the list goes on for days. Saban is the only coach “qualified” in your mind.

 

[BigRedLegion]

The only thing that is ridiculous is guaranteeing a guy $20MM who has not yet proved he can do any of the things I stated above. I guess the only thing more ridiculous than that is thinking a guy will take many less millions just to come home.



And how much did those guys get paid to take over those programs???

Are we now on the same wavelength?

Those guys weren't HC before they took over. Frost is and hes winning. Who do you want to be coaching at NU in 2018?

 

[Slantsflood7]

7-5 and Riley is a lock to stay. 6-6 is iffy but you boys should prepare yourself for the possibility of Riley being here next year.

Take my tickets

 

[scarletred]

Those guys weren't HC before they took over. Frost is and hes winning. Who do you want to be coaching at NU in 2018?

Someone other than Riley.

 

[Suhrreal]

You’re losing ground with every post. Using your logic Va tech would’ve never hired fuente, Clemson would’ve never hired Dabo, etc. - the list goes on for days. Saban is the only coach “qualified” in your mind.

I'm losing ground by posting facts? My claim is that an unproven coach in a bottom tier conference is not worth $5MM a year/$20MM long-term. And your rebuttal is that Dabo and Fuentes would have never been hired? Never mind that Fuentes spent four years as a head coach and Dabo was already on Clemson's staff before either guy was hired at their current spot. And neither guy was paid anywhere near $5MM+ a season. You may need to work on your "logic."

"Swinney gives Clemson bang for the buck. When Clemson coach Dabo Swinney was hired in 2009, his original contract was for a base salary of $900,000."

Hey if we can get Frost for that kind of money, I'm all aboard!

 

[DONU.]

Nebraska has never been Scott Frost's #1 choice, so let's hope he takes this Florida job and proves that he belongs where many of you say he does. Then he can come home again.

Agree. Let's see if Frost can recruit on an national scale. That's my main concern. Just how hard it is to recruit to UCF with all the left over. Take the KU job, recruit 4 star players, bowl eligible three straight years and we'll talk.

 

[YouGotSwatted!]

I'm losing ground by posting facts? My claim is that an unproven coach in a bottom tier conference is not worth $5MM a year/$20MM long-term. And your rebuttal is that Dabo and Fuentes would have never been hired? Never mind that Fuentes spent four years as a head coach and Dabo was already on Clemson's staff before either guy was hired at their current spot. And neither guy was paid anywhere near $5MM+ a season. You may need to work on your "logic."

"Swinney gives Clemson bang for the buck. When Clemson coach Dabo Swinney was hired in 2009, his original contract was for a base salary of $900,000."

Hey if we can get Frost for that kind of money, I'm all aboard!

You would’ve hired neither, that’s pretty clear. Is saban “qualified” in your mind?

 

[TwinsRRUs]

I don't think I would want Urban Meyer or Nick Saban at Nebraska because they've never coached here before and don't understand the Husker traditions and culture...

Gimme some Scott Frost! He has been here before and knows the traditions and culture plus he has a winning record as a head coach.

Even if it would take him 10 years to bring them back Nebraska back he should not get fired.

He may not have very much experience but I have a feeling that is teams with win more than Mike Riley's teams are currently winning at Nebraska.

At this point it feels like there's no way he could do any worse so what the hell, bring him on.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

You would’ve hired neither, that’s pretty clear. Is saban “qualified” in your mind?

Frost= Saban. You heard it here first in this thread.

 

[BigRedLegion]

Agree. Let's see if Frost can recruit on an national scale. That's my main concern. Just how hard it is to recruit to UCF with all the left over. Take the KU job, recruit 4 star players, bowl eligible three straight years and we'll talk.

What says the KU job is even an option? If its not NU Frost will get picked up by another school in a similar situation to NU Tenn and FU.

 

[supersport24]

I'm losing ground by posting facts? My claim is that an unproven coach in a bottom tier conference is not worth $5MM a year/$20MM long-term. And your rebuttal is that Dabo and Fuentes would have never been hired? Never mind that Fuentes spent four years as a head coach and Dabo was already on Clemson's staff before either guy was hired at their current spot. And neither guy was paid anywhere near $5MM+ a season. You may need to work on your "logic."

"Swinney gives Clemson bang for the buck. When Clemson coach Dabo Swinney was hired in 2009, his original contract was for a base salary of $900,000."

Hey if we can get Frost for that kind of money, I'm all aboard!

Frost is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. His next job will be a top job somewhere and he will be making a lot of money.

 

[DONU.]

What says the KU job is even an option? If its not NU Frost will get picked up by another school in a similar situation to NU Tenn and FU.

KU Is not an option I know. Do we know for sure Florida and Tennessee are that much interested?

 

[BigRedLegion]

I don't think I would want Urban Meyer or Nick Saban at Nebraska because they've never coached here before and don't understand the Husker traditions and culture...

Gimme some Scott Frost! He has been here before and knows the traditions and culture plus he has a winning record as a head coach.

Even if it would take him 10 years to bring them back Nebraska back he should not get fired.

He may not have very much experience but I have a feeling that is teams with win more than Mike Riley's teams are currently winning at Nebraska.

At this point it feels like there's no way he could do any worse so what the hell, bring him on.

Although the sarcasm here is thick. You do bring up a good point. How could it get much worse? I think he would get NU back to being relevant faster than MR.

 

[BigRedLegion]

KU Is not an option I know. Do we know for sure Florida and Tennessee are that much interested?

There has been a lot of praise for him nationally its hard to believe that wont catch someones attention. However nothing is for sure.

 

[flatout124]

The dominant conversation in our home this weekend is what the hell will we do or how will we “recover” if we go 6-6 or for that matter 7-5 and Moos decides we need to retain HCMR for another year BUT Frosty goes ahead and heads over to the Gators or insert another 5 program? Fast forward to 2018, we tank and Frost goes 9-3/10-2 etc...i’d say 60% of our fan base would lose their collective mind. Is it worth the risk?
No guarantee with Frost or with anyone else for that matter but you talk about alienating the fans and jeopardizing the “sellout streak”!

 

[RedMyMind]

McElwain was being paid 4,268,385...

11 of the top 14 Head Coach in the SEC are in the top 30 salaries.

and they had to buy him out for a pretty penny.

 

[huskerfan1414]

If Frost can't wait for Nebraska till the end of the season, he doesn't want the job. End of story

This is really not accurate.
Riley just beat Purdue.
The Florida administration will press for an answer.
If Frost knows he wants to go to a big school, that Florida job is appealing, even if Nebraska is his first choice.
As of right now the Nebraska job isn't open and until Riley is fired there's no guarantee it's gonna be.
Right now the Florida job is open but it probably won't be come Black Friday, even if the official announce,net isn't until then.
Frost might be afraid he will be left in the cold if Florida hires someone else and Nebraska ends up keeping Riley.
This is all assuming both ADs want to hire him, of course, which may not be true either.

Moral of the story, its not as simple as "oh I'll just say no to this promotion and assume a different promotion is coming open."

 

[otismotis08]

Guess it sometimes does sometimes make sense to fire a coach mid-season. Hmmm....

 

[otismotis08]

Cut it out with the Frost won’t sign anything strawman - EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.

What can be started now is informal communications with frosts agent indicating interest, getting asst coach salaries scoped, contracts prepped, etc.

This isn’t hard to figure out except for idiots here.

Been saying this for months. Some people just won't accept it.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Guess it sometimes does sometimes make sense to fire a coach mid-season. Hmmm....

Tell Osborne that, because if he was AD he would be handling this the same way.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

This is really not accurate.
Riley just beat Purdue.
The Florida administration will press for an answer.
If Frost knows he wants to go to a big school, that Florida job is appealing, even if Nebraska is his first choice.
As of right now the Nebraska job isn't open and until Riley is fired there's no guarantee it's gonna be.
Right now the Florida job is open but it probably won't be come Black Friday, even if the official announce,net isn't until then.
Frost might be afraid he will be left in the cold if Florida hires someone else and Nebraska ends up keeping Riley.
This is all assuming both ADs want to hire him, of course, which may not be true either.

Moral of the story, its not as simple as "oh I'll just say no to this promotion and assume a different promotion is coming open."

Or he stays at UCF one more year. Goes 12-0 and ups his value even more. There are many more options for him than NU or everyone else this year

 

[huskerfan1414]

Or he stays at UCF one more year. Goes 12-0 and ups his value even more. There are many more options for him than NU or everyone else this year

There's no reason. Keep dreaming.
Look at the power five positions coming open this year.
If he has a shot at them there is no sense in raising your stock. These are top programs.
Keep dreaming. If Frost wants a big job he will not be at UCf next year. Too many good jobs coming open.

 

[YouGotSwatted!]

Tell Osborne that, because if he was AD he would be handling this the same way.

Remember there was no December signing day like there is this year

 

[huskerfan1414]

Tell Osborne that, because if he was AD he would be handling this the same way.

Wtf does this matter? Honestly is an entire section of your brain used only for Osborne?

 

[supersport24]

Remember there was no December signing day like there is this year

Plus things have changed vastly in college football. I don’t think there were a ton of big head coachin openings that year either.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Wtf does this matter? Honestly is an entire section of your brain used only for Osborne?

Because it is how things are done. I see you are triggered now. Sorry about your luck

 

[supersport24]

Wtf does this matter? Honestly is an entire section of your brain used only for Osborne?

Yea Osborne is the devil. He ruined Nebraska football. The guy has done more harm to the program than Harv and Eichorst

Sincerely 4..6.3.

 

[little a]

Sounds like he would. Not my call.

If he passes on big money from Florida and takes less to come here we all need to STFU- he's a better man than me.

 

[coachDubs]

Good move by Florida. They're not trying to hold on to mediocrity like some around here..

Unfortunately there are quite a few blind ppl around.

Bill Moos, who's been publicly approved by Tom Osborne, is holding on. You donks can point the fingers to the fans all you want however, the fact is - Bill Moos is the Athletic Director, Hank Bounds is the President, Ronnie Green is the Chancellor and not one of them have fired Riley.

They're the ones hanging on, period. All other shit is just that, shit.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Because it is how things are done. I see you are triggered now. Sorry about your luck

What? You're a robot, I'm convinced.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Remember there was no December signing day like there is this year

Recruits do not matter. New coach will be able to plug in his guys, but more importantly walk-ons.