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Why would Frost choose NU over Florida?

When will Frost be announced new HC

  • Before the end of the season

    Votes: 7 3.9%
  • After Iowa game

    Votes: 67 37.6%
  • After their bowl game

    Votes: 18 10.1%
  • He won't, he isn't going to be the next Neb HC

    Votes: 86 48.3%

  • Total voters
    178
Enormous difference in expectations between Washington State Football and Nebraska Football. Also, Moos has huge incentives tied to the success of the football program. Unless he honestly believes Mike Riley will win a championship here in the next couple years, he will not bring him back.

I hope you’re right and a Moos changes his MO
 
A couple of too many cocktails with dinner.
Could you explain it, then?
Let me slow it down...how will frost know nebraskas intentions? Riley fired? Moos already knows and tells him? Florida let's him decide after season?
I'm not arguing the premise that he will know, I'm wondering how he's so sure an how he will know before he makes a decision.
I don't know why you think that's such a crazy question, and find it rude you insinuate I'm drunk.
 
Could you explain it, then?
Let me slow it down...how will frost know nebraskas intentions? Riley fired? Moos already knows and tells him? Florida let's him decide after season?
I'm not arguing the premise that he will know, I'm wondering how he's so sure an how he will know before he makes a decision.
I don't know why you think that's such a crazy question, and find it rude you insinuate I'm drunk.
I was saying I had too many cocktails with dinner. I was replying to coachDubs. He told me I could have been more accurate.
 
The whole country knows we are talking about Frost so he has to have us in the back of his mind. I think he would want to and would wait til bowl season before going to Fla. His folks still live here( I think). His mom coached here at NU in the big 8. And after living in So Fla. For 5 years myself, back when I was a few years younger than he is now, I moved my family back to Nebraska to raise my kids here. That has it's appeal.. he has more head coaching experience than Solich or Pelini and they were are best 2 out of the last 4. His Dad was his head coach in high school and his mom was his WR coach. It's in his Nebraska blood. I believe he will be here in 2018
 
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If Frost would rather go to Florida, compete against Nick Saban and Alabama for his first big job, rather than coach in his home state for the University that he won a national title for...then...we are probably better without him...college football players and coaches are loyal to the core, especially when they win a title for a school, especially when it is their home state, and that school is the only team in that state....Scott would have to really hate the fans and U for him not to take the job, and if that is the case then we never should want him...
 
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If Florida was to push him for an early answer it would probably hurt their chances. Frost should be bowling in Dec or even Jan. Cant even be sure hes at the top of their list. I know one thing I have more faith in moos than I did in Eichorst.
 
I lean toward firing Riley unless he goes 7-5. I stupidly said during the game that he should be fired now. Emotional post.

And if Riley is fired I too would love to see Frost here. But if he doesn't come here it means his heart and mind are not as focused on dear ol' Nebraska U as we thought. And I wish him success wherever he goes. But if he doesn't come then he doesn't. So be it. Nothing we post here matters. There are other good coaches out there. We cannot allow our Frost lust to color our judgement. I really like the Moos hire. I have tremendous confidence that, should Riley be fired, he will bring in a very good coach.

We all just need to relax.
 
I lean toward firing Riley unless he goes 7-5. I stupidly said during the game that he should be fired now. Emotional post.

And if Riley is fired I too would love to see Frost here. But if he doesn't come here it means his heart and mind are not as focused on dear ol' Nebraska U as we thought. And I wish him success wherever he goes. But if he doesn't come then he doesn't. So be it. Nothing we post here matters. There are other good coaches out there. We cannot allow our Frost lust to color our judgement. I really like the Moos hire. I have tremendous confidence that, should Riley be fired, he will bring in a very good coach.

We all just need to relax.

If he finishes 7-5 or worse fan apathy will be at all time levels. If we don’t can Riley and Frost goes to UF there will be a civil war.
 
Jon Gruden coach at Tennessee in 1987 but has been out of college football since 1990...

That's a long time to have been out of college football.

He is a good coach.

How many NFL coaches have made good college coaches?

I know Lovie Smith is not making a very good college coach and Bill Callahan ended up not being a very good coach in the college ranks.

$10 million is a hell of a lot of money and if he takes it I hope he succeeds, but nothing says desperate quite like $10 million.

Surely they could pull a great coach away from another college team for a $10 million that is at least proven in college football.

I wouldn't hire Gruden. He will have a little more success than Lovie Smith. Tennessee has more resources than Illinois. I still think Jon will get frustrated with the college game.
 
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If he finishes 7-5 or worse fan apathy will be at all time levels. If we don’t can Riley and Frost goes to UF there will be a civil war.
Probably. Which is why Moos is in a tough situation. He knows what will happen if he doesn't fire Riley. Is that a good enough reason all by itself to fire him even if he goes 7-5? It might be. I don't know. Glad the decision is his and not mine
 
If he goes 7-5, the most likely scenario is win out minus PSU. That's one horrible game short of an expected win-loss record. The fact that things shut down late against the Badgers and the following no-show against tOSU really color the picture. Things would be different had we continued battling against Wisconsin and brought some type of game against the Bucknuts.
Frosty to NU has taken on a life of its own. Canning the guy for 7-5 is probably not good business and a first year AD normally wouldn't do that. If the kids play hard and salvage a winning record, it puts Moos in a tough situation.
 
If he finishes 7-5 or worse fan apathy will be at all time levels. If we don’t can Riley and Frost goes to UF there will be a civil war.
Im having a hard time seeing 7-5. Unless we get help from opponents I think 5 wins is the ceiling. Minnesota is the best shot. If Riley is retained apathy will be at an all time high and the sell out streak will be in jeopardy
 
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Im having a hard time seeing 7-5. Unless we get help from opponents I think 5 wins is the ceiling. Minnesota is the best shot. If Riley is retained apathy will be at an all time high and the sell out streak will be in jeopardy
I agree that 7-5 seems a stretch given our injuries and our total lack of a running game. My hope is that if our run game continues to struggle that Riley will look at that fourth quarter against Purdue and just air it out just like that in our remaining games. Put the games on the shoulders of our QB and his receivers. Use what works rather than trying to force what doesn't.
 
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I also don't see this team winning more than maybe two more games. But, lets say we do get to 7-5 with an improved showing against PSU. Moos better have SF (or a proven P5 coach such as Campbell) signed and hiding under the Podium when he announces Reilly's firing. Otherwise, I fear another Stevie P. type fiasco of a coaching search with numerous coaches playing along to get raises from their current ADs and us finally settling on a dubious retread. Given how much all these coaches seem to love Reilly, few proven coaches will want to follow a guy they think was treated unfairly once the media starts blasting UNL for letting Reilly go. Less than 7-5 and a blowout loss to PSU and I think all coaches will understand that we gave Reilly sufficient time to show some kind of progress, and could see from games film just how poorly coached we are. In that case, I do have much more confidence that Moos's personality and salesmanship will allow him to draw in someone really good without having him sown up by the time Reilly's firing is announced.
 
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I lean toward firing Riley unless he goes 7-5. I stupidly said during the game that he should be fired now. Emotional post.
It's not often
And if Riley is fired I too would love to see Frost here. But if he doesn't come here it means his heart and mind are not as focused on dear ol' Nebraska U as we thought. And I wish him success wherever he goes. But if he doesn't come then he doesn't. So be it. Nothing we post here matters. There are other good coaches out there. We cannot allow our Frost lust to color our judgement. I really like the Moos hire. I have tremendous confidence that, should Riley be fired, he will bring in a very good coach.

We all just need to relax.
It's not often I disagree with you but I think what gets posted by fans does matter. Fans directly and indirectly provide the entire amount of revenue for the athletic Dept. A good AD would want to take our pulse before ticket sales, tee shirt sales and contributions tumble. I know he doesn't want to know what Camcon or Pennsy thinks individually but I believe our collective voice is heard. Boosters have a direct line to Moos. Is there another way aside from passive boycotting to let him know how We want him to spend our money other than these boards? I think we should not relax. We should ramp it up.
 
It's not often I disagree with you but I think what gets posted by fans does matter. Fans directly and indirectly provide the entire amount of revenue for the athletic Dept. A good AD would want to take our pulse before ticket sales, tee shirt sales and contributions tumble. I know he doesn't want to know what Camcon or Pennsy thinks individually but I believe our collective voice is heard. Boosters have a direct line to Moos. Is there another way aside from passive boycotting to let him know how We want him to spend our money other than these boards? I think we should not relax. We should ramp it up.
You are correct on this I think. My mistake to say our voices don't matter. In fact, in another thread that has long scrolled away I made the same point you are making now. So I contradicted myself. Happens all the time. Lol
 
FYI ... Frost is not giving anybody an early answer. He has too much pride to quit on his team while they are still playing.

If you want him, you wait till the bowl games are over and then you get an interview. Until then, you can talk to his agent and choose to believe or not believe whatever the agent is saying.
 
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It's not often I disagree with you but I think what gets posted by fans does matter. Fans directly and indirectly provide the entire amount of revenue for the athletic Dept. A good AD would want to take our pulse before ticket sales, tee shirt sales and contributions tumble. I know he doesn't want to know what Camcon or Pennsy thinks individually but I believe our collective voice is heard. Boosters have a direct line to Moos. Is there another way aside from passive boycotting to let him know how We want him to spend our money other than these boards? I think we should not relax. We should ramp it up.
I think we fans did ramp it up with half empty stadium after half of OSU. Everybody knows that can't happen. That's the real power.
 
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I also don't see this team winning more than maybe two more games. But, lets say we do get to 7-5 with an improved showing against PSU. Moos better have SF (or a proven P5 coach such as Campbell) signed and hiding under the Podium when he announces Reilly's firing. Otherwise, I fear another Stevie P. type fiasco of a coaching search with numerous coaches playing along to get raises from their current ADs and us finally settling on a dubious retread. Given how much all these coaches seem to love Reilly, few proven coaches will want to follow a guy they think was treated unfairly once the media starts blasting UNL for letting Reilly go. Less than 7-5 and a blowout loss to PSU and I think all coaches will understand that we gave Reilly sufficient time to show some kind of progress, and could see from games film just how poorly coached we are. In that case, I do have much more confidence that Moos's personality and salesmanship will allow him to draw in someone really good without having him sown up by the time Reilly's firing is announced.
I also wondered about these coaches who like Riley then I think about all the coaches who have no opinion - have you ever heard Meyer or Saban say they think Riley is a good coach. My take is there are many coaches and probably most that do not think much of his coaching.

Florida fires their coach mid season of his third year after winning his division his first two years and no one seems to be talking about unrealistic expectations for Florida

NU needs to grow a pair - this staff had a losing season the first year numerous embarrassing losses and shows no signs of even getting better - what the heck are we waiting for
 
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Im having a hard time seeing 7-5. Unless we get help from opponents I think 5 wins is the ceiling. Minnesota is the best shot. If Riley is retained apathy will be at an all time high and the sell out streak will be in jeopardy
If we only win five games then he will be gone for sure anyways.
 
Probably. Which is why Moos is in a tough situation. He knows what will happen if he doesn't fire Riley. Is that a good enough reason all by itself to fire him even if he goes 7-5? It might be. I don't know. Glad the decision is his and not mine

I have no idea what Moos is going to do at the end of this season. If the Huskers finish 7-5 that still leaves us with Riley. Mr. Mediocre. Moos has to ask himself how many 7-5 seasons he will accept. Moos will have to calculate how much support the football team will continue to get from us fans if Riley continues to coach the team to an average record. He will have to determine what salary a new coach will cost the university. Moos is getting paid 1 million plus incentives. Have the incentives been published? It would be interesting to know what they are. It will all come down to money.
 
I have no idea what Moos is going to do at the end of this season. If the Huskers finish 7-5 that still leaves us with Riley. Mr. Mediocre. Moos has to ask himself how many 7-5 seasons he will accept. Moos will have to calculate how much support the football team will continue to get from us fans if Riley continues to coach the team to an average record. He will have to determine what salary a new coach will cost the university. Moos is getting paid 1 million plus incentives. Have the incentives been published? It would be interesting to know what they are. It will all come down to money.
Incentives were published a while back. Almost all were tied to the success of the football team.
 
Assuming both NU and Florida jobs open up, as seems very possible, I think the only reason he would come here is if he has some overwhelming sense of loyalty.

Florida has a few perks:

1. Recruiting. Not only talent, he's already in-state and developing pipelines. Recruits he's talking to go to UCF can easily transition to UF, only 125 miles away.

2. Money. Florida is paying $4.25M compared to Riley's $2.7. Now consider Florida doesn't have state income tax and that is an extra $225k he would save.

3. Lifestyle. Now, this is speculation on my part, but Frost seems like a coast guy. He went to Stanford, Oregon and UCF. He only went to Nebraska after it became obvious Stanford wasn't going to work out.

4. Husker nation gave him a good booing at home when he was a player. Is that something he still remembers or cares about?

Frost said in a 2012 interview that if he ever could come back to Neb and coach he would. It was his dream job.
 
If this all goes down like we all think and Riley is going to fired at some point and Frost is to be possibly named new HC. When does it happen? With FL making a move now, do we need to do the same as not to miss out? Would Frost wait knowing the Neb job will be available. Here is my thought process.
I believe if offered the Neb job he is going to take it. He has been quoted in multiple interviews over the years as saying, Nebraska is where he would like to end up. That is is dream job. So, I believe there is no rush to fire MR and make a fast move for Frost. He will wait. Guessing Moos has already been in contact with him and told him the game plan. All parties involved will wait. Riley will be fired after the Iowa. Frost will be named HC whenever his last regular season game is. I don't see him staying on till UCF bowl game. As he needs to hit the ground running to save recruiting before the Dec signing date.
 
IMO it kind of depends on whether Frost's comments regarding his team our sincere or just coach speak.

And also could depend on how his season finishes up. If his team remains undefeated then who knows he could end up coaching the bowl game first somewhat of a finish what you started type of thing where it would be a major bowl game) but if they are not undefeated I could easily see him coming after their last game of the regular season.
 
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What Frost said he would like to do in the future may not still be true with him. He has a lot of options it appears, Nebraska is just one. He also may not feel he is ready to come back home. I don't think for a second it is a slam dunk.
 
What Frost said he would like to do in the future may not still be true with him. He has a lot of options it appears, Nebraska is just one. He also may not feel he is ready to come back home. I don't think for a second it is a slam dunk.
Surprised Oregon didn't bring him home last year when they hired their new coach.....Winking
 
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I am so it kind of depends on whether Frost's comments regarding his team our sincere or just coach speak.

And also could depend on how his season finishes up. If his team remains undefeated then who knows he could end up coaching the bowl game first somewhat of a finish what you started type of thing where it would be a major bowl game) but if they are not undefeated I could easily see him coming after their last game of the regular season.
I guess we'll all see...he seems genuine

I think he would feel deep guilt to leave UCF this fast.

 
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