why are you talking about this? this huskers website!!!!!!President has now resigned.
why are you talking about this? this huskers website!!!!!!President has now resigned.
That's rich. Go ahead and point out where I stifled a bit of discussion in the entire thread. I'm perfectly capable of articulating my point of view without resorting to personal attacks or bullying someone. If you want to have a substantive discussion about issues, I'm game. If you want to use labels and deliberately misrepresent what I've said, I'm out.
I just read a timeline of events published by the student union newspaper (and if I wasn't on a iPad I would link it) that if correct illustrates that Tim Wolfe was much more involved than we are being led to believe. From the papers perspective it sounds like this is a lot more about money than it is about race though race was certainly a component. It sounds from the article like Tim Wolfe had met with the protestors and with the hunger striker and was sympathetic but was unwilling to succumb to their demands (one of which was him stepping down). It appeared the Mr Wolfe was more than willing to continue negotiations. I suspect we are going to learn a lot that is unfavorable about the protesters in the coming days but unfortunately that will be to late for Mr. Wolfe.
There is where you are wrong, we will hear very little to nothing if your events are actually true, and you know what, no white people will riot or demand anyone's head on a platter either.
As I pointed out in another thread, white people regularly do the same things we call "rioting" when it's done by black people but we simply don't call it rioting when it's done by white people. It's the same dynamic at play where a white kid goes into a black church, shoots the place up because he hates black people, and we don't call it what it is: terrorism. We chalk it up as one deranged individual when we all know full well that had that been a Muslim kid it would have been labeled "terrorism" no questions asked.
Ultimately, when you say something like "and you know what, no white people will riot," why do you think that is? Do you think white people are just inherently less violent? Or, perhaps, do you think that rioting (whatever that really means) is an inevitable action of a group whose grievances are not addressed through political or other non-violent channels? At some point, if your society is not listening to you, what are you supposed to do to get them to do so?
This is all you need to know about this tolerant group...what a bunch of ass-hats...makes me sick
Missouri is 1 and 5 in conference. One...and...five. They suck. Turn loose this group of entitlement whiners, and find some damn football players that will 'actually' play football while not worrying about what some dumbass paints on a wall. The redneck may not even attend Mizzoo. Find the racist and beat the hell out of him, but the boss ain't steppin' down to your demands.
Pull the scholarships, boot the malcontents out, no more free chow and entitlements. Form your circular firing squad boys, it's a tough ass world out there...piss on your demands. Maybe the Rev Al will take ya in.
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As addressed previously, comparing rioting in celebration of sporting events to racial rioting is like comparing rape to consensual sex. Both have elements that are similar but they are nothing alike. Rioting in celebration of sporting events rarely cause any substantive property damage, includes members of all races, is quickly ended and is non-confrontational. Racial rioting as we've seen in Ferguson and Baltimore is primarily limited to one race, frequently causes substantive property damage, is never quickly resolved and is very confrontational (in fact deadly). Your comparison is ludicrous!As I pointed out in another thread, white people regularly do the same things we call "rioting" when it's done by black people but we simply don't call it rioting when it's done by white people. It's the same dynamic at play where a white kid goes into a black church, shoots the place up because he hates black people, and we don't call it what it is: terrorism. We chalk it up as one deranged individual when we all know full well that had that been a Muslim kid it would have been labeled "terrorism" no questions asked.
Ultimately, when you say something like "and you know what, no white people will riot," why do you think that is? Do you think white people are just inherently less violent? Or, perhaps, do you think that rioting (whatever that really means) is an inevitable action of a group whose grievances are not addressed through political or other non-violent channels? At some point, if your society is not listening to you, what are you supposed to do to get them to do so?
I watched that video earlier & it seems only some people get rights.
This is all you need to know about this tolerant group...what a bunch of ass-hats...makes me sick
I would also like to hear how a campus that is so racist with a student body and administration that is so racially divided has a black student body president. The student body as reported is 8% black and 80 some percent white yet somehow a person of color was elected student body president. How do we explain this discrepancy? It would appear to me that a rather large portion of the white student body was fairly non-racist!
I would also like to hear how a campus that is so racist with a student body and administration that is so racially divided has a black student body president. The student body as reported is 8% black and 80 some percent white yet somehow a person of color was elected student body president. How do we explain this discrepancy? It would appear to me that a rather large portion of the white student body was fairly non-racist!
Ultimately, it seems incredibly stupid for anyone here to be questioning whether black students attending a university none of us attend have legitimate grievances or are, in fact, engaging in some sort of grand conspiracy to remove the President of the university for no reason whatsoever. None of us have ever walked a mile in their shoes or know what it's like to be a black student at a school in the south. Think about how ridiculous it sounds to hear a white guy in Nebraska say that a black kid at the University of Missouri does not, in fact, experience racism. It's absurd.
On another note, whether you all like it or not, this event is a game changer. Given the priority our society places on sports, the bottomline is that black athletes have tremendous power to effectuate change and I, for one, am glad to see them use it. Imagine if, for instance, LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant said that they would not play in the playoffs unless the police departments in their respective cities pledged to have all of their officers wear body cameras. Those police departments would pledge to wear body cameras just as fast as this university president resigned.
I think if Lebron, Steph and Kevin decided not to play in the playoffs for the reason you describe we would find out how willing their fans were to watch players that didn't feel the need to make political statements. I suspect they would also find that their reputations and marketability were irrepairably damaged. The Missouri players are fairly insulated from damage because no one outside of Missouri knows who they are. In fact I bet the majority of Missouri residents don't know which players were holding them for ransom.Ultimately, it seems incredibly stupid for anyone here to be questioning whether black students attending a university none of us attend have legitimate grievances or are, in fact, engaging in some sort of grand conspiracy to remove the President of the university for no reason whatsoever. None of us have ever walked a mile in their shoes or know what it's like to be a black student at a school in the south. Think about how ridiculous it sounds to hear a white guy in Nebraska say that a black kid at the University of Missouri does not, in fact, experience racism. It's absurd.
On another note, whether you all like it or not, this event is a game changer. Given the priority our society places on sports, the bottomline is that black athletes have tremendous power to effectuate change and I, for one, am glad to see them use it. Imagine if, for instance, LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant said that they would not play in the playoffs unless the police departments in their respective cities pledged to have all of their officers wear body cameras. Those police departments would pledge to wear body cameras just as fast as this university president resigned.
If the reason is not, "there is a culture of racism on this campus and the President seems utterly unconcerned about it," please enlighten me what the reason is. If nothing else, the incoming President is going to have to take these concerns really seriously if he or she wants to keep the job and my guess is that person will implement some policy changes designed to address these concerns. That's how you change the culture of a university in a meaningful, yet peaceful way.Oh I think everyone agrees there is a reason. A very Machiavellian one.
You are being naive if you don't think that would work. These players--by and large poor and politically unconnected--got the President of a major university to resign within 72 hours of threatening to boycott a game. That's some real power right there and I bet there are a lot of other athletes who are taking note, as they should.I think if Lebron, Steph and Kevin decided not to play in the playoffs for the reason you describe we would find out how willing their fans were to watch players that didn't feel the need to make political statements. I suspect they would also find that their reputations and marketability were irrepairably damaged. The Missouri players are fairly insulated from damage because no one outside of Missouri knows who they are. In fact I bet the majority of Missouri residents don't know which players were holding them for ransom.
Perhaps I am being naïve but I suspect this is not a threat that will continue to be effective. The sports world will eventually, likely quickly, refuse to be held hostage by athletes for political gain, especially when the majority of fans don't agree with their demands. I would compare it to the football and baseball strikes of past decades. Tell me again how well that worked out for the athletes.You are being naive if you don't think that would work. These players--by and large poor and politically unconnected--got the President of a major university to resign within 72 hours of threatening to boycott a game. That's some real power right there and I bet there are a lot of other athletes who are taking note, as they should.
See Hillary and Her campaign implying that Bernie Sanders is sexist for having the audacity to not take part in her coronation, and not marching lock step with her on gun control...Liberal policies coming full circle, eating their own.
If the reason is not, "there is a culture of racism on this campus and the President seems utterly unconcerned about it," please enlighten me what the reason is. If nothing else, the incoming President is going to have to take these concerns really seriously if he or she wants to keep the job and my guess is that person will implement some policy changes designed to address these concerns. That's how you change the culture of a university in a meaningful, yet peaceful way.
Christ this isnt a political issue....Its about a group of students fighting for the right to feel safe on campus. This isnt a Right or Left issue its a basic be decent to all humans issue. I cannot believe some of what I am reading on here, or at least cannot believe that some would be comfortable stating what they are even with fake names.
be decent and have compassion for others ...keep the right and left leanings to yourselves ...its pretty simple
And I bet she can't even make a decent ham sammich.From what I have seen with her she comes across as extremely hypocritical in her stance with the media...
no that was a demand, one of the incidents was off campus, just what the hell was he supposed to do about thatThey don't want an apology. They want the university president to do his job and condemn racist incidents and make it clear that it's unacceptable -- immediately. What exactly was there to think about? Was it a complex issue? No. If there isn't an immediate response from the top, it's basically ok? It may be an overreaction from the protesters but I think it's great. Love to watch us play football? Then don't allow open racism on your campus. Pretty simple.
I can't tell what I'm watching. I gave it about 5 minutes...who is mad at who over what exactly?
I can't tell what I'm watching. I gave it about 5 minutes...who is mad at who over what exactly?
You are easily deceived or very naive to believe this is not political.Christ this isnt a political issue....Its about a group of students fighting for the right to feel safe on campus. This isnt a Right or Left issue its a basic be decent to all humans issue. I cannot believe some of what I am reading on here, or at least cannot believe that some would be comfortable stating what they are even with fake names.
sorry if mentioned already, but ill bet the student news photographer (who appears to be a minority himself) felt pretty unsafe on campus, as well. im glad he stood his ground. we'll all benefit from that.I watched that video earlier & it seems only some people get rights.
How ironic is it that Melissa Click a communications professor at MU is filmed calling for the physical removal of campus reporters. Campus reporters that were in a public area reporting on student involvement. Really makes you wonder what these protesters had to hide!You should be giving that speech to Melissa Click and the people demanding that Tim Wolfe apologize for being white.
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