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Thoughts on what is happening at MissouriU

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My second favorite team of all time, is whoever Missouri is playing on any given Saturday going forward. I hope they get baby seal clubbed and never win another game and I hope recruits mention they would never consider this school based on the actions of the administrators who folded like a cheap tent. Go BYU!!
 
For those of you complaining that this is "politics," I'm not sure what you mean by that. If you define politics as the process of altering your society so as to function in a way you believe it should function then, at some level, EVERYTHING is politics. The idea that someone at the core of this movement is also involved with a Democratic senator is perhaps the least surprising thing ever. Does it really spark outrage that someone interested, passionate, and talented enough about politics to obtain a job with a senator would be the same person to lead a movement on his campus? I mean, I'm having a hard time ginning up surprise or outrage here.

I think the real problem a lot of you are having is that this movement was successful and, for some reason, you see black college kids working together to solve problem on their campus in a peaceful way as threatening as opposed to inspiring.
 
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I think the real problem a lot of you are having is that this movement was successful and, for some reason, you see black college kids working together to solve problem on their campus in a peaceful way as threatening as opposed to inspiring.[/QUOTE]


I think the problem a lot of people are having is the fact that a few small isolated incidents that the prez. had zero to do with, paid the ultimate price. His greatest sin? Being white. How are you going to feel about all this if the guy who drew with poop turns out to be black? Or if the truck load of people that shouted a racist word never happened? This is a pretty dangerous precedent, set off by some things nobody has al the facts on, but that didn't stop mob justice. If this guy really did meet with those kids several times and he really did meet with the hunger strike kid, as somebody reported earlier, then you'll have to tell me what more he could have done here, because I don't see it.
 
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Remember the name Tim Tai...He stood up to the mob and kept insisting that he had a First Amendment right to be there. Intolerant liberals, screaming for minority rights all the while getting in the grill of a minority photog.!
Good to see one young man stand up to the mob.

Chairman Mao's cultural revolution is now.

Caught this on TASS... err National news, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest praised the group of protesters for rallying together and demanding change, pointing out that Obama’s first presidential campaign was embodied by the same spirit.
 
Obama should be removed from office because of these incidents. Clearly as much his fault as anyone else, sans the ALLEGED perpetrators. I demand my pound of flesh, this is not political! This is about what a group of people feel is right, and that is all that matters.
 
As long as taxpayers put up with this bs, it ain't changin'.

Ya know, I just visited a thread wishing a 240 yr. Happy Birthday to the USMC and then came across this bit on Ms. Click and her contribution to America.

Her faculty page describes Ms. Click thusly:

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Dr. Melissa A. Click earned her Ph.D. from the Department of Communication at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Her research interests center on popular culture texts and audiences, particularly texts and audiences disdained in mainstream culture. Her work in this area is guided by audience studies, theories of gender and sexuality, and media literacy. Current research projects involve 50 Shades of Grey readers, the impact of social media in fans’ relationship with Lady Gaga, masculinity and male fans, messages about class and food in reality television programming, and messages about work in children’s television programs. Melissa is Vice-Chair of ICA’s Popular Communication Division and is Chair of the committee hosting the Console-ing Passions conference at the University of Missouri in April 2014.

Melissa’s excellence in the classroom has been recognized by the MU Chancellor’s Committee on the Status of Women (Tribute to Women, 2004), the Intercollegiate Communication Association/iCom (Outstanding Professor, 2007), MU’s College of Arts & Sciences (Purple Chalk Award, 2007), Lamda Pi Eta (Honorary membership, 2008). In 2010, she received the Provost’s Outstanding Junior Faculty Teaching Award. MU’s Association of Communication Graduate Students have recognized her as an “Outstanding Mentor” (2011) and as “Graduate Advisor of the Year” (2013).

Frequently Taught Courses:
Comm 4618/7618 – Television Program Analysis and Criticism
Comm 4638 – New Technologies and Communication
Comm 4975 – Visual Literacy
Comm 8110 – Intro to Graduate Studies
Comm 8150 – Seminar in Television Criticism
Comm 9530 – Topics in Mass Communication: Cultural Studies, Audiences, & Fans


No word on whether Ms. Click will face sanctions or face criminal prosecution for her actions, or whether she will be teaching a course in Introduction to Sick Irony 101.
 
Just heard about this on the radio this morning. Really, really bad.
The whole situation has gone from troubling but understandable to something deceitful. What do they not want us to know? It's possible that everything may be what they claim but their actions sure make that hard to believe and the rush to judgement becomes even more suspect.
In my opinion, and that's all this is, the real heros here may be the two guys who gave up their jobs to try to end the madness.
 
Kind of pisses all over that "civil protest" and "no violence" stance doesn't it?

Not at all. My comment has to do with the faculty member being involved in the way she was.

As far as I know there still hasn't been any violence; though, the one line in the video about 'muscle' obviously suggests she was asking for help to forcibly remove the student photographer. I'm not sure what happened after that.
 
Just heard about this on the radio this morning. Really, really bad.
Archie, again I apologize cause I'm posting from an iPad 'does anyone know if it's possible to link from an iPad' but the timeline I read yesterday mentioned a number of moves the university made to the financial detriment of the graduate student program. The hunger striker was a 3 year graduate student and the lovely Melissa Click taught an intro to Graduate Studies course and I believe mentored graduate students.
Now I may be wearing my tinfoil hat a little to tightly but I'm stating to see a pattern and don't believe it's entirely a coincidence. The words "graduate student" keeps appearing in to much of the correspondence I'm reading to believe I'm wrong.
 
Boom. Facts be damned. Minorities are so oppressed there, that they are forced to turn to illegal tactics. So much hypocrisy. The whole situation has turned laughable.

You said "minorities" but the article is talking about athletes.

You do realize that white athletes are also included in those crime statistics, right? The fact that you mentally leaped from reading about athlete crime to an assumption about minorities is a dangerous leap in logic.
 
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Archie, again I apologize cause I'm posting from an iPad 'does anyone know if it's possible to link from an iPad' but the timeline I read yesterday mentioned a number of moves the university made to the financial detriment of the graduate student program. The hunger striker was a 3 year graduate student and the lovely Melissa Click taught an intro to Graduate Studies course and I believe mentored graduate students.
Now I may be wearing my tinfoil hat a little to tightly but I'm stating to see a pattern and don't believe it's entirely a coincidence. The words "graduate student" keeps appearing in to much of the correspondence I'm reading to believe I'm wrong.

No worries. It is going to be very interesting to see how all of this unfolds.
 
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You said "minorities" but the article is talking about athletes.

You do realize that white athletes are also included in those crime statistics, right? The fact that you mentally leaped from reading about athlete crime to an assumption about minorities is a dangerous leap in logic.
Only a dangerous leap in your opinion. Break it down for me since you are so sure. I am guessing you won't like what you find, and it is way out of proportion compared to the "student body average" of minority percentage. I stand by what I said, you are free to jump to your imaginary racism accusation. That is your "right"
 
Only a dangerous leap in your opinion. Break it down for me since you are so sure. I am guessing you won't like what you find, and it is way out of proportion compared to the "student body average" of minority percentage. I stand by what I said, you are free to jump to your imaginary racism accusation. That is your "right"

So you are freely admitting that you are comfortable making negative assumptions about people based on race? I just want to make sure I understand your position.

When you hear the words "athlete" and "crime" you've concluded that its black athletes (for the most part), is that correct?
 
So you are freely admitting that you are comfortable making negative assumptions about people based on race? I just want to make sure I understand your position.

When you hear the words "athlete" and "crime" you've concluded that its black athletes (for the most part), is that correct?
No. I am stating that it is fact that black athletes commit crimes at higher rates than their percentage of student-body would show. You are welcome to disprove this fact, and also show where people were forced to lose their job over these dozens of prior incidents in Mizzorah.
 
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For those of you complaining that this is "politics," I'm not sure what you mean by that. If you define politics as the process of altering your society so as to function in a way you believe it should function then, at some level, EVERYTHING is politics. The idea that someone at the core of this movement is also involved with a Democratic senator is perhaps the least surprising thing ever. Does it really spark outrage that someone interested, passionate, and talented enough about politics to obtain a job with a senator would be the same person to lead a movement on his campus? I mean, I'm having a hard time ginning up surprise or outrage here.

I think the real problem a lot of you are having is that this movement was successful and, for some reason, you see black college kids working together to solve problem on their campus in a peaceful way as threatening as opposed to inspiring.

First off I want to say I think you are a worthy debater. I disagree with you but I would never want to silence you (cough***Click***cough). Second, I think progressive leanings are tinged with anarchist sensibilities. A part of me wonders if when you go into a theater you have to resist the urge to yell "Fire" because you're curious to watch the masses trample each other.

Enough editorializing. You're right that everything boils down to a quest for power, which is another way of saying everything is politics. So I commend you for proclaiming that to be true in this case. The self-examination you should go thru is what happens to people who are consumed with power? What happens to their integrity? Have you read the works of political philosophers? People like . . .

Hammurabi
Nietzsche
John Calvin
Thomas Hobbes
Mencius
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cicero
Saint Augustine
Xenophon
Thiruvalluvar
Plato
Al-Mawardi
Muhammad al-Shaybani
Ibn Taymiyyah

If not, you should consume them. I think you'd enjoy it.
 
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You said "minorities" but the article is talking about athletes.

You do realize that white athletes are also included in those crime statistics, right? The fact that you mentally leaped from reading about athlete crime to an assumption about minorities is a dangerous leap in logic.

It's interesting you bring this up. In an earlier post someone linked an article about the disproportionate nature of violence caused by athletes on campus. Mizzou seems to have a problem in this area. I'm sure it's mainly white farm kids who are responsible, I can't imagine kids who come from an unstable and crime-ridden urban environment being accused of rape or thuggery.

Just as I can't imagine a national magazine reporting about a fraternity gang-rape by whites at a confederate state school being anything but truthful.
 
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What's happening at the University of Missouri today is that ConcernedStudent1950 are bullying media out of public spaces they have a right to be in. The video below even includes a Missouri assistant professor, Melissa Click, shouting for "muscle" to have a reporter removed from a public space. With each passing day their true colors and motivations become more and more clear. This is basically a leftist political movement trying to bully the University into a list of political demands.

From the New York Times. I'd recommend watching the entire video:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/u...otesters-block-journalists-press-freedom.html
 
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First off I want to say I think you are a worthy debater. I disagree with you but I would never want to silence you (cough***Click***cough). Second, I think progressive leanings are tinged with anarchist sensibilities. A part of me wonders if when you go into a theater you have to resist the urge to yell "Fire" because you're curious to watch the masses trample each other.

Enough editorializing. You're right that everything boils down to a quest for power, which is another way of saying everything is politics. So I commend you for proclaiming that to be true in this case. The self-examination you should go thru is what happens to people who are consumed with power? What happens to their integrity? Have you read the works of political philosophers? People like . . .

Hammurabi
Nietzsche
John Calvin
Thomas Hobbes
Mencius
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cicero
Saint Augustine
Xenophon
Thiruvalluvar
Plato
Al-Mawardi
Muhammad al-Shaybani
Ibn Taymiyyah

If not, you should consume them. I think you'd enjoy it.

Why demonize the political left? Vehemently disagree all you like, but to call Progressives potential anarchists? If you've read all those philosophers and historians you list, then you know better than a gross mischaracterization like that, surely. For example, I'm very liberal in political thought, but I don't consider conservatives as having fascist sensibilities. They don't need to be demonized for me to feel confident in my opinions.
 
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Why demonize the political left? Vehemently disagree all you like, but to call Progressives potential anarchists? If you've read all those philosophers and historians you list, then you know better than a gross mischaracterization like that, surely. For example, I'm very liberal in political thought, but I don't consider conservatives as having fascist sensibilities. They don't need to be demonized for me to feel confident in my opinions.

You betray yourself. You would be a fool not to think there are conservatives with fascist sensibilities. Look at Bush's quest for total control over communication monitoring. Of course Obama ramped up that program and even infused it with a demographic data collection program designed to help the gov't with its social engineering programs.

And you don't see the slavish devotion of the left to Aaron Schwartz; Ross Ulbricht; #blacklivesmatter and the Occupy movement?

No, your comment was too well written and I deduce you're too intelligent to convince me you're not aware of the sensibility attribution we're talking about.
 
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What's happening at the University of Missouri today is that ConcernedStudent1950 are bullying media out of public spaces they have a right to be in. The video below even includes a Missouri assistant professor, Melissa Click, shouting for "muscle" to have a reporter removed from a public space. With each passing day their true colors and motivations become more and more clear. This is basically a leftist political movement trying to bully the University into a list of political demands.

From the New York Times. I'd recommend watching the entire video:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/u...otesters-block-journalists-press-freedom.html

she's hiding because she knows her agenda has nothing to do with the student safety or welfare.
 
Same attempt happening at Yale now! Will be interesting when university revert back to actual standards of the individual vs a quota.
 
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Same attempt happening at Yale now! Will be interesting when university revert back to actual standards of the individual vs a quota.

Ironically, liberalism is a major source of intolerance and discrimination that needs to be addressed on America's campuses.

Examples like this are easy to find. Underling and bolding is mine:

"The authors also drop this bombshell: In one survey they conducted of academic social psychologists, "82 percent admitted that they would be at least a little bit prejudiced against a conservative [job] candidate." Eighty-two percent! It's often said discrimination works through unconscious bias, but here 82 percent even have conscious bias."

http://theweek.com/articles/441474/how-academias-liberal-bias-killing-social-science

Public universities are taxpayer supported but frequently create environments of intimidation against all non-liberal views.
 
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