Thoughts on what is happening at MissouriU
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Did these players stop going to class too? Seems that someone on full athletic scholarship would have some obligation to fulfill their responsibilities. This has got to be very tough for Pinkle. Talk about a division on the team! YIKES
Wolf is supposed to be in charge of all the students. They asked him to address the incidents of racial slurs and he pretty much dismissed them as over reacting. Good leaders don't dismiss problems. Wolf could have defused this by acting like he cared. Old saying, I don't care what you say until I know you care.lack of empathy was on display by Wolf.
You think all those people were in a good mood?
You can't invent facts. It was a non-violent protest. Period. The president decided not to engage with students and his driver bumped one with his car. That's what happened. Everything you are commenting on is made up and/or hypothetical. I'm not commenting personally about the situation - just stating precisely what happened.
About 8 percent of the student body is black. 3 percent of the faculty is black. If it matters, a little over 11 percent of Columbia is black.
I know it must seem like some crazy liberal agenda but it certainly seems like you have a tendency to believe that any race-related issue is contrived. So we will assume that you are a proponent of equal opportunity and I'll patiently wait for a reasonable explanation to justify the disparity. Racism isn't just burning a cross on someone's lawn. Racism happens when people in influential positions fail to recognize and address their own predispositions to select, hire, and promote others who look like they do.
Sometimes I wish folks could be a fly on the wall in the lives of someone else. You'd have a MUCH different view of race/gender relations....
I don't know the whole situation, I have read the 'list of demands' they put out and laughed. They demand that he acknowledge white privileged. What the hell will that do? Will that make the shit swastika go away?
I hope he does acknowledge white privilege. And then acknowledges black privilege and female privilege and every group of people and animal that enjoys a certain privilege that other groups don't. There are double edged swords for every group.
The university's liberalism has turned against itself. Classic.
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There is absolutely no evidence that the interaction was anything other than peaceful. Angry black protesters does not necessarily equal a mob. It's this guy's JOB to address student concerns and if he doesn't want to do that he should do something else. There were a million ways he could have handled that situation that would not have led to the outcry. Instead, he was a callous, unconcerning dick about it and here we are, quite rightfully IMO.
Ferguson protect started out non violent as well. So did Baltimore.
Also, peaceful protests don't stop a car that doesn't want to be stopped.
They better be able to actually pass a class now that the NFL might not look at them. They all certified themselves as trouble makers. Well, maybe Jerry Jones would want them.
This could be a hoax also. The nut job arrested for burning black churches was himself black, crazy friggin' world.
As someone posted, if a person dips their hand into shit to scrawl a message, they have much bigger issues.
On Mike & Mike, they stated that in interviews with the media, at least one player admitted that if they were 9-0 right now, they wouldn't be taking this position. That says a great deal about their true level of dedication & concern..
This could be a hoax also. The nut job arrested for burning black churches was himself black, crazy friggin' world.
As someone posted, if a person dips their hand into shit to scrawl a message, they have much bigger issues.
On Mike & Mike, they stated that in interviews with the media, at least one player admitted that if they were 9-0 right now, they wouldn't be taking this position. That says a great deal about their true level of dedication & concern..
No real bearing on the current situation since it was over 100 years ago, I just always thought this was an interesting fact. Interesting that they once forfeited a game because they were being racist, now they may "in effect" forfeit a game to presumably fight racism.
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1060800
From the linked article:
"Flippin was the first African-American athlete at Nebraska and only the fifth black athlete at a predominantly white university. Because of Flippin's presence on the roster, Missouri refused to play a scheduled game with Nebraska at Omaha in 1892. The result was a 1-0 forfeit."
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1060800
From the linked article:
"Flippin was the first African-American athlete at Nebraska and only the fifth black athlete at a predominantly white university. Because of Flippin's presence on the roster, Missouri refused to play a scheduled game with Nebraska at Omaha in 1892. The result was a 1-0 forfeit."
Funny how I don't ever see crap like this posted when white kids decide to protest. I wonder why....
I'd like to talk more about black and female privilege. Go ahead and line up the CEO's of every Fortune 500 company. I'm super excited to see black and female privilege on display.
Remember that time white people rioted after the OJ verdict and burned down their own city? Me neither.
The University of Missouri is not just some wacko liberal university, it is a member of the AAU and is the flagship land-grant school in the state. It has an obligation to serve all of the people. The President is being pressured to resign because he has allowed the school to reach a point where racism on campus is preventing the university from carrying out its mission:
Our distinct mission, as Missouri's only state-supported member of the Association of American Universities, is to provide all Missourians the benefits of a world-class research university. We are stewards and builders of a priceless state resource, a unique physical infrastructure and scholarly environment in which our tightly interlocked missions of teaching, research, service and economic development work together on behalf of all citizens. Students work side by side with some of the world's best faculty to advance the arts and humanities, the sciences and the professions. Scholarship and teaching are daily driven by a commitment to public service — the obligation to produce and disseminate knowledge that will improve the quality of life in the state, the nation and the world.
Our distinct mission, as Missouri's only state-supported member of the Association of American Universities, is to provide all Missourians the benefits of a world-class research university. We are stewards and builders of a priceless state resource, a unique physical infrastructure and scholarly environment in which our tightly interlocked missions of teaching, research, service and economic development work together on behalf of all citizens. Students work side by side with some of the world's best faculty to advance the arts and humanities, the sciences and the professions. Scholarship and teaching are daily driven by a commitment to public service — the obligation to produce and disseminate knowledge that will improve the quality of life in the state, the nation and the world.
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I don't doubt the existence of lingering racism in our society. However, there is a track record on campuses of stuff like this turning out to be a hoax. I posted recent examples.
Maybe there really is a racist on campus who took the time to draw a swastika in poop in a residence hall. Personally, I think it sounds fishy, but if it truly happened with racist intent, I hope they catch him/her.
Or maybe this another example of liberal students and liberal professors protesting what is likely a hoax carried about by liberals to "raise awareness." You'd be naive not to acknowledge this possibility.
Thanks for demonstrating your keen understanding of race relations. You've made my point better than I could.
Yes, white people just riot after their sports teams win or lose and then we don't call it "rioting," we call it "getting a little carried away."
If they were 9-0 that President would have been fired yesterday. That dynamic would have given these players even more power than they already have.
I think you're being as big of a dork as you think I am being, so I'll be happy to agree to disagree on this issue.
He was referencing a post that implied that BLACK football players are too stupid to pass their classes. Reading comprehension. Try it sometime.
We have come to define "rioting" as something unique to black people despite many instances of white people doing the exact same thing.http://mic.com/articles/116680/11-s...standard-of-reactions-to-riots-like-baltimore
You've seen evidence to suggest that this is a hoax? Do you see that your own perception bias is reflected in the words you've selected? I read your linked article. About half of the "hate crimes" were actually false reporting on rape allegations. That's not remotely germaine to the discussion. However, if you already believe that blacks and whites are treated equally in most situations, it feeds your preconceived notion. Bad stuff isn't really happening.
This is NOT just one incident on campus. It makes it so conveniently simple to box the situation up as "just one thing". There's more to this situation than a dookie swastika. Please stop for a minute and think about the situation. These players are risking their scholarships and their standing in an OVERWHELMINGLY white community in order to protest a perceived injustice.
What do they have to gain compared to what they are risking? Think about it....
Using your same line of thought, I give you this (the bolding is mine):
- 50 percent of professors describe themselves as being "left or liberal." That puts the professoriate considerably to the left of the country as a whole; Gross estimates that professors are "about three times more liberal on average" than American adults.
- However, just 8 to 9 percent of college faculty can be accurately described as "far left" or "radical"—and the percentage is even smaller among younger faculty. "The professorate is obviously not bursting at the seams with revolutionaries," writes Gross.
- 19 percent of professors could be called "moderates."
- On the right, Gross estimates that economic conservatives comprise just 4 percent of academia, and that 23 percent of academics are social and pro-military conservatives.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/higher-education-liberal-research-indoctrination
Meanwhile:
- Conservatives remain largest ideological group, at 38%
- Liberals up one point to 24%, the highest yet
Let me know when you want to go start a strike with me against this injustice!
Entirely possible I mis-read that. I will not go back and re-read it, but will apologize if that is my bad. My point was, I am not saying the kids don't have a gripe, but for them to claim it's a peaceful protest, then stop a car that didn't want to be stopped, and act like the real potential for that to turn ugly doesn't exist, and for that act to make them even angrier? That I don't get. That had the potential to get real ugly, and he made the right decision not to stop. I am not saying they don't have some gripe, but is it possible they are blaming to much of this on their prez? Looks to me like it's possible, like they want somebody's pelt and don't care who it is. Not sure what getting him canned is going to do for their cause.
It's pretty simple. If there are truly racists creating a hostile environment for other students, investigate them and punish them appropriately.
I'll acknowledge there are racists out there. Can you be big enough to acknowledge that a lot of these alleged incidents turn out to be hoaxes?
The university president should have issued a public and strong condemnation for any racial acts.
With that being said, the best and most qualified person(s) should be getting jobs. If you are asking for a quota, are you also asking for discrimination against all that don't fit the requirements to maintain the quota?
With that being said, the best and most qualified person(s) should be getting jobs. If you are asking for a quota, are you also asking for discrimination against all that don't fit the requirements to maintain the quota?
I didn't give that stat, a team player made that statement.
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I believe the University President would have reacted differently if it were a handful of white students that were engaged in non-violent protest. I believe that's one of the underlying issues in this situation. When people feel powerless to have their voice heard eventually they will either give up ... or yell louder.
The President could have taken the bold move to step out of the car and sit down for a discussion. He's paid good money to be held accountable for his decisions. He chose to drive away. In retrospect, maybe he regrets the decision. Maybe he ought to stand up and address these issues because to this point, he's done NOTHING publicly other than say he's not stepping down.
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I still think he made the right decision to keep driving in that scenario. But thank you for being reasonable about it, we don't have to agree on everything to be reasonable with each other.
Are you saying if your car were stopped by a number of angry college students that you would get out and discuss their issues? Because I'm telling you that any basic self defense class would tell you that your nuts. The moment he left his car he would have lost all control of the situation and there is no telling where the situation would have escalated to. Likewise, I suspect if a student group made demands of me and was willing to stoop to aggressive tactics like stopping my car, I likely wouldn't be willing to spend a lot of time with them discussing the situation.
Sorry Archie I often agree with you but in this situation where they stopped his vehicle I disagree. The moment they stopped his vehicle this demonstration stopped being non-violent.
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