The coaching carousel is mostly just dumb luck
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Yes, very much a timing thing, although some programs seem to be set up to transition from one successful coach to the next (Ohio State, Oregon, GA)
Or you can go get an actual proven winner
You’re going to need to define that further, the criteria is too broad
Could you imagine the reaction around here if we had hired a guy from JMU?
On the surface, at the time, Rhule was worth the gamble. Realistically, he was about as good as we were going to do....I mean, people thought we were to good for BOB.
The sun likely would not have risen the next morning.
Urban is the only guy available who is just about guaranteed to turn this around and hire good coaches, just like 2 years ago.
Or someone who has proven he can win in this league. Like the fat man, I don't care anymore how disgusting he is.
Still others like the KSt coach and Chadwell were hire on the list than the gasbag we got
No he wasn't. It's an easy copy out to think that and another failure by our grifter decision makers in Lincoln.
KSU coach and Chadwell were my two realistic top choices. Oh well.
not going to go round and round about it, but i stand by what i typed...Urban wasn't coming here...outside of him, they were all gambles. i wonder if you're just looking at this through hindsight and would ask if you remember the boards reaction when BOB was floated, a guy who's resume was better than we deserved...and he wasn't good enough...heck even posters here didn't want urban because he was to slimy...i think people forget all the hand wringing on just about every possible candidate that was mentioned, all of them had their detractors. rhule was as good as we were going to do and most of us felt pretty lucky to get him at the time
It is not a huge issue but the Indiana coach is already in his 60's...like 63?
I am guessing this contract alone made him rich (please, I don't need 50 replies about how a dude in his 60's could not retire off of 6 years 27 million dollar contract), so more than likely, he is doing 6-7 years tops, which might have scared off some AD's?
I know it would have been something that I thought about it, not sure if it would have scared me off though. But I could see why it would be a consideration.
And yes, I am an ageist. Shut up
I am guessing this contract alone made him rich (please, I don't need 50 replies about how a dude in his 60's could not retire off of 6 years 27 million dollar contract), so more than likely, he is doing 6-7 years tops, which might have scared off some AD's?
I know it would have been something that I thought about it, not sure if it would have scared me off though. But I could see why it would be a consideration.
And yes, I am an ageist. Shut up
Chadwell was successful at the G5 level. Then again, so was Scott Frost.
I wonder if Chadwell just likes a lower level gig and way less pressure?
the guy with 4 COTY awards who had an FBS winning % of 0.826 and his team in playoff consideration late last year?
it wasn't luck, it was an intelligent hire.
the bright side is he won't be at Indiana long with multiple SEC teams looking like shit.
reality is, I didn’t mind the Rhule hire it’s the fvcking contracts for these clowns that we just need to fvcking stop
We are the dumbest mudderfvking program on the planet
Frost, a 7 year deal, then after a couple shitty seasons a 2 year extension?
Then, giving Rhule a 9 year deal!
I mean, what the hell
We are the dumbest mudderfvking program on the planet
Frost, a 7 year deal, then after a couple shitty seasons a 2 year extension?
Then, giving Rhule a 9 year deal!
I mean, what the hell
history has shown if people here are pissed, you are doing something right
Once you look at it from the employers point of view, you'll understand. It's not winning football they want, it's a lucrative program. Fans will still pay and advertisers + TV money are locked in. You're a victim of the grift if you continue to shell out. Your choice what you do with your money, though.
However, without big contracts, we can't make big time coaching hires.
I think it's more of an AD's ability to know what good coaching looks like instead of going for a hot name. Indiana is having success not just because of Sig but his staff/some players came with him.
Realistically no, he wasn't the best we could do. Of course poster are going to argue about any name and nobody here knows who would come and who wouldn't. Money talks. Act like a blue blood and stop ripping this state off.
Honestly, fans should stop showing up. Kills me to say that, but what are we left with. It's obvious he was the wrong choice.
The longer we wait, the longer it is before we start winning again. I don't want to hear another word about raising donations or ticket prices
GO WIN some fcking games and look like a competitive well coached team.
if it was dumb luck the same programs wouldn't always get it right while the others always get it wrong
Matt Rhule looked like the right choice at the time and may very well still be the right one. However, he needs to make some changes on his staff.
You are right. A lot of this stuff is just guys looking for a reason to pile on already. I find it so interesting. I'd love to see the list of guys who wanted Frost fired halfway through his second season with a 5-2 record. I hear all the time about Nebraska having the smartest fans in college football. I'd invite anybody who believes that to come to this message board for a few days after a big loss. That myth would be PERMANENTLY pit to bed.
HCMR is definitely not beyond reproach. He had a couple hires that I questioned immediately. So this isn't 20/20 hindsight. That said the crew of guys talking about firing him and how bad he is are laughable.
Give the man a chance to fix what's wrong. A lot of people being disingenuous when it comes to who we COULDVE hired . I'll just say that. You are right my friend.
Hollla
The programs that get it right aren't looking for new coaches.
Oregon hires a new coach every handful of years
UGA, Bama, Clemson, ohiost hire new coordinators basically every season
doesn't matter
I was fine with hiring Rhule; what made me cringe was the outrageous contract. We are going to know long before 8 years if it's going to work.
Really? Those are the comparisons? Its easier to coach with all 4 and 5 star players. Ryan Day is a perfect example. Average coach with ridiculous talent and very expensive assistants. He did not hire most of them I don't think. If he did at least he got some of that right. We may find out soon if he doesn't make the playoff. He'll get caned.
Mike Riley was something right?
In movie history...is she the biggest anchor around a dude ever???
Some are more ridiculous than others. I think Cignetti's base contract is $27 million, Rhule's is around $70 million I think?
will another Nebraska coach ever match his 9-win season?
time will tell
the thing about .500 coaches is, well, they're .500 coaches
fool us once....
The fact that I read that and had to think about it was very depressing. Thank goodness it’s almost 5
I'm not sure Urban is a slam dunk anymore, he was doing his thing in a different era of college football. It's a lot different than even 5 years ago and urban seemed to relish being able to hold things over players heads and expect them to kill themselves, they make a lot of money now and he probably can't do it the same way. He was always having health problems back then too, probably a waste of money if you hired him now.
This actually the first time I'm calling for this so early. I've always been on here fighting the good fight, sticking up for coaches and players.
Sorry, laugh all you want. No more for me. This university has grifted this state and fan base long enough. This hire was poor, the way it was done was poor.
Give him a chance to fix it, seriously after what just happened. That is not the world we live in anymore. Take an honest look at his time hear so far and tell me you think he'll get it done, with a straight face.
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