Teachers behaving badly

[cavalot]

Larger sample size typically helps accuracy, lol…

You LIKE that the average high schooler is become increasingly Pussified the faster our country circles the ol’ toilet bowl… man I get it. We all like our kids to have a certain level of Independence vs Dependence. You do you…

But all BS aside, I’m glad you’re friends with actually ‘conservative’ teachers. I’m pointing out that (seriously go find ANY other published study), they’re in a distinct minority just nationally. Add up ever teacher in the US and divide ‘D’ (lib activist) by ‘X’ (all of em), and it’s gonna be a big number.

You don’t have a leg to stand on here and you’re making yourself look ignorant. Even the flaming libs here know it.

2017 NPR commissioned Ipsos to conduct a nationally representative survey of more than 500 teachers across the country to determine their views on workplace issues.

There is plenty of good stuff if you want to take a deep dive, but I found the responses to this question about political party identification most interesting: Not really a steep a difference as you let on. By the way I don't belong to our union.

 

[cavalot]

As far as teacher shortages go, we have them down here in Texas as well. But it isn't based on pay. Hell a starting teacher in my district makes $62k. The biggest problem with teacher retention here, is the lack of support by administration, especially principals. They don't want to deal with bitchy ass parents so they just let them run roughshod. Little Johnny doesn't do his homework, fails a test but his parents still want him to get at least a B. So they go complain to admin, the teacher must not have taught it right, and low and behold, Johnny gets to retake the test. Parents then talk and the next thing you know, all the kids, with a low test scores, want to retake the test. Once that horse is out of the barn, there is no getting it back. So instead of some parent telling the principal the teacher has no clue what they are doing, the teachers just allow those kids to do corrections. After a few years of this lack of support, teachers leave and the whole process starts over. I don't have exact numbers but I would guess that 40% of the teachers at my school are under 30 and another 40% are within 5 years of retiring. In 5 years, at the current pace, there will be 80% of the teachers under 30, because teachers are quitting before they reach 30, and they are replaced by 23 year olds.

62K. That is a hell of a lot more than here in NE. Starting teacher coaching three HS sports barely cracks 45K. That's easily 60Hrs a week on average.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

2017 NPR commissioned Ipsos to conduct a nationally representative survey of more than 500 teachers across the country to determine their views on workplace issues.

There is plenty of good stuff if you want to take a deep dive, but I found the responses to this question about political party identification most interesting: Not really a steep a difference as you let on. By the way I don't belong to our union.

My opinion is that people hear what the union leaders are saying, especially the national teachers union, and they believe that the rank and file also have similar opinions.

Those numbers pretty much go along with my opinion, based on those numbers, 24% lean heavy one way or the other. The 69% are independent, moderate to their side, or lean one way or the other.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Students shouldn’t know what a teachers politics feelings are. At all. I teach classes at night and can restrain myself from giving off any hints. But I didn’t have any fancy training, and am teaching because I have a specific knowledge to share with my students that is applicable to their every day jobs. That’s right, I teach adults and can somehow not push any political shit. That’s all anyone is asking. Ignoring the teachers that do it, admit to doing it, and promise to keep doing it isn’t doing your chosen profession any good.

Agreed and I am sure you would agree that the absolute vast majority, 95%+ do not share their political beliefs, so what the heck is the problem?

And trust me, your adult students know exactly which way you lean. That is not an insult either, but they know.

 

[SuperBigFan]

62K. That is a hell of a lot more than here in NE. Starting teacher coaching three HS sports barely cracks 45K. That's easily 60Hrs a week on average.

Really? I am in Nebraska and we start at almost 50. Without coaching.

 

[sammyk]

Really? I am in Nebraska and we start at almost 50. Without coaching.

In North Carolina we start at 35K and the top is 54K

 

[SuperBigFan]

In North Carolina we start at 35K and the top is 54K

It is absolutely tragic!

Now, do you get a bonus if you convince a kid to change his gender or become a furry?

 

[sammyk]

It is absolutely tragic!

Now, do you get a bonus if you convince a kid to change his gender or become a furry?

pfffttttt hahahahahbah nope

 

[cavalot]

Really? I am in Nebraska and we start at almost 50. Without coaching.

I think our base pay is right around 38. Maybe its gone up, but I have a colleague who is in his second year and coaches football, basketball, and baseball and makes between 45-50. And we don't live in the sticks by any means.

 

[SuperBigFan]

pfffttttt hahahahahbah nope

I was trying to think of the "worst" thing I have heard in all my years of teaching/coaching and I think it was this...

Practice ended and we gathered the team and the head coach said something about being ready for the game tomorrow and to get a good night of sleep so "you don't show up all chink eyed".

That is it, that was about 15 years ago.

Maybe next season I will hear "That team is playing like a. bunch of gender neutral furries!"

 

[SuperBigFan]

I think our base pay is right around 38. Maybe its gone up, but I have a colleague who is in his second year and coaches football, basketball, and baseball and makes between 45-50. And we don't live in the sticks by any means.

Dang! That is nuts.

I want to guess...DC West? Arlington? Ohhh Blair???

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Dang! That is nuts.

I want to guess...DC West? Arlington? Ohhh Blair???

Wahoo

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I teach math in a public school, or I’m supposed to, but mostly I talk about politics, trannies, drag shows, and furries.

So I guess I’m part of the “most” crew that a couple of guys on here are talking about.

JFC…

 

[SuperBigFan]

Wahoo

That is nice little district! And their sports have really been decent as of late.

Neumann usually kicks ass in FB.

 

[SuperBigFan]

I teach math in a public school, or I’m supposed to, but mostly I talk about politics, trannies, drag shows, and furries.

So I guess I’m part of the “most” crew that a couple of guys on here are talking about.

JFC…

2+2= Furry...which is what all of you should be and be a lib!

 

[CheeseRunza]

I get what you are saying but I think you are looking at it differently then what I am presenting.

I am talking about the parent freaking out over a B+ and demanding answers and/or the parent that says "Well, he is your problem during the school day, not mine"

I would say this...out of 100% of parents 90% are amazing...5% are horrible in that they won't help with their kid and 5% are horrible in that they want to dictate.

So for the most part, parents are great.

I can see your point and respect it. When I see parents (inclusively) being blamed for poor educational outcomes, it sometimes strikes a nerve. Just like there are bad parents, there are bad teachers.

My wife and I were not ones who contacted teachers or administration regarding problems or issues. But we have sat in parent/teacher conferences where I just had to bite my tongue and shake my head at some of the teachers.

A third grade teacher of one of my daughters was telling us that my daughter didn’t understand math and she (the teacher) was having a difficult time trying to teach my daughter the correct way to solve the problems. I had previously checked her homework, and remember being impressed by the creativity and reasoning she displayed in solving the problems, but I’m sure her method wasn’t “by the book” (I think they were working with fractions). In my mind it set her up well for algebra down the road. The teacher couldn’t see her abilities and instead decided that my daughter wasn’t capable of math.

It is frustrating to know that had we listened to this teacher and told our daughter that she wasn’t capable of math, instead of following our own instincts and observations, her entire chosen education and career trajectory would not have happened.

I just find it frustrating that teachers like to point their fingers at parents and that we are supposed to blindly accept that the teachers know best and parents should know their place.

Now, that being said, she did have an excellent math teacher in high school who became a good mentor for her, allowing her to explore calc, discrete mathematics, algorithms, and computer science in her own manner outside the confines of a traditional classroom setting. She also had some very good mentors in the Raikes school and engineering college during her undergrad and some very good preceptors in medical school.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I can see your point and respect it. When I see parents (inclusively) being blamed for poor educational outcomes, it sometimes strikes a nerve. Just like there are bad parents, there are bad teachers.

My wife and I were not ones who contacted teachers or administration regarding problems or issues. But we have sat in parent/teacher conferences where I just had to bite my tongue and shake my head at some of the teachers.

A third grade teacher of one of my daughters was telling us that my daughter didn’t understand math and she (the teacher) was having a difficult time trying to teach my daughter the correct way to solve the problems. I had previously checked her homework, and remember being impressed by the creativity and reasoning she displayed in solving the problems, but I’m sure her method wasn’t “by the book” (I think they were working with fractions). In my mind it set her up well for algebra down the road. The teacher couldn’t see her abilities and instead decided that my daughter wasn’t capable of math.

It is frustrating to know that had we listened to this teacher and told our daughter that she wasn’t capable of math, instead of following our own instincts and observations, her entire chosen education and career trajectory would not have happened.

I just find it frustrating that teachers like to point their fingers at parents and that we are supposed to blindly accept that the teachers know best and parents should know their place.

Now, that being said, she did have an excellent math teacher in high school who became a good mentor for her, allowing her to explore calc, discrete mathematics, algorithms, and computer science in her own manner outside the confines of a traditional classroom setting. She also had some very good mentors in the Raikes school and engineering college during her undergrad and some very good preceptors in medical school.

Many(obviously not all) elementary teachers are in elementary education strictly because they didn’t want to go through the math to be a secondary teacher.

It ain’t good, but it’s kinda one of those across-the-board deals.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

It is absolutely tragic!

Now, do you get a bonus if you convince a kid to change his gender or become a furry?

Hahahahahaha. Joking about pedos and groomers in your chosen profession. Hilarious. You should do stand up

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I teach math in a public school, or I’m supposed to, but mostly I talk about politics, trannies, drag shows, and furries.

So I guess I’m part of the “most” crew that a couple of guys on here are talking about.

JFC…

Who said most? Are any of you capable of understanding that some of us don’t think it’s funny or cool to ignore pedos and groomers?
Looks that way

 

[cavalot]

Dang! That is nuts.

I want to guess...DC West? Arlington? Ohhh Blair???

NFM

 

[SuperBigFan]

Hahahahahaha. Joking about pedos and groomers in your chosen profession. Hilarious. You should do stand up

Where did I joke about that?

I said furries and gender.

But thank you for the compliment, I appreciate it and I also think I am funny.

 

[SuperBigFan]

NFM

I don't know what that means! Ha!

 

[SuperBigFan]

Who said most? Are any of you capable of understanding that some of us don’t think it’s funny or cool to ignore pedos and groomers?
Looks that way

Yeah, he also did not say anything about pedos and groomers.
In fact, I have not seen one person defending them, have you?

 

[cavalot]

Who said most? Are any of you capable of understanding that some of us don’t think it’s funny or cool to ignore pedos and groomers?
Looks that way

Who's ignoring them? Who has said that it's ok? What we are saying is that it's a small % that you guys are losing your sh&t over. Many on here are claiming that this is what public schools are all about and that teachers by in large are liberals dead set on indoctrinating the youth of America.

That's the discussion point from the few people on here that actually work in a public school.

 

[cavalot]

I don't know what that means! Ha!

NO FURTHER MESSAGE....essentially not up for discussion.

 

[SuperBigFan]

I can see your point and respect it. When I see parents (inclusively) being blamed for poor educational outcomes, it sometimes strikes a nerve. Just like there are bad parents, there are bad teachers.

My wife and I were not ones who contacted teachers or administration regarding problems or issues. But we have sat in parent/teacher conferences where I just had to bite my tongue and shake my head at some of the teachers.

A third grade teacher of one of my daughters was telling us that my daughter didn’t understand math and she (the teacher) was having a difficult time trying to teach my daughter the correct way to solve the problems. I had previously checked her homework, and remember being impressed by the creativity and reasoning she displayed in solving the problems, but I’m sure her method wasn’t “by the book” (I think they were working with fractions). In my mind it set her up well for algebra down the road. The teacher couldn’t see her abilities and instead decided that my daughter wasn’t capable of math.

It is frustrating to know that had we listened to this teacher and told our daughter that she wasn’t capable of math, instead of following our own instincts and observations, her entire chosen education and career trajectory would not have happened.

I just find it frustrating that teachers like to point their fingers at parents and that we are supposed to blindly accept that the teachers know best and parents should know their place.

Now, that being said, she did have an excellent math teacher in high school who became a good mentor for her, allowing her to explore calc, discrete mathematics, algorithms, and computer science in her own manner outside the confines of a traditional classroom setting. She also had some very good mentors in the Raikes school and engineering college during her undergrad and some very good preceptors in medical school.

Yeah, you answered your own question, it just wasn't "by the book"

You handled that perfectly in my opinion.

 

[SuperBigFan]

NO FURTHER MESSAGE....essentially not up for discussion.

Ha! I thought it was NO ****ING MESSAGE. hahaha

Yeah, I get it, I would not say it either, I was just wondering, sorry!

 

[SuperBigFan]

Who's ignoring them? Who has said that it's ok? What we are saying is that it's a small % that you guys are losing your sh&t over. Many on here are claiming that this is what public schools are all about and that teachers by in large are liberals dead set on indoctrinating the youth of America.

That's the discussion point from the few people on here that actually work in a public school.

No one is ignoring them and he/she knows that too but it is an agenda thing.

1 teacher hurting a kid is bad, everyone agrees with that. He/she knows it too but for some reason can't admit that we all agree with him/her.

It makes no senes to me.

 

[Walleye79]

I don't know what that means! Ha!

I thought he wanted to meet you at the Nebraska Furniture Mart parking lot

 

[SuperBigFan]

I thought he wanted to meet you at the Nebraska Furniture Mart parking lot

As long as it is not around Xmas time when that place is a zoo!

By the way, is the Burger King inside of NFM the most delicious BK ever?

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

No one is ignoring them and he/she knows that too but it is an agenda thing.

1 teacher hurting a kid is bad, everyone agrees with that. He/she knows it too but for some reason can't admit that we all agree with him/her.

It makes no senes to me.

We have a teacher in this thread who jokes about it, and said “usually these types are known by kids”. Another x teacher brought up an example that he reported it, and it was ignored by administration.
That’s the issue (for me anyway). Sitting back and saying “not my problem” does what exactly?
Teachers unions across the country were all for shutting down schools when they claimed a virus was going to kill a kid….. but when pedos are excused or joked about, the tune seemingly changes. In my line of work I’d be proud to snuff out these creeps, and I wouldn’t blame their parents for it while doing it

 

[cavalot]

No one is ignoring them and he/she knows that too but it is an agenda thing.

1 teacher hurting a kid is bad, everyone agrees with that. He/she knows it too but for some reason can't admit that we all agree with him/her.

It makes no senes to me.

Doesn't fit the Faux rage agenda. It's amazing how suddenly teachers and public schools are bad for America, and that the only saving grace is to send ones kids to a private school paid for by US tax payers.

We have had a public school problem for as long as we have had public schools. Lots of dynamics feed into the reasons why. Most of it has to do with demographics and not bad teachers. Not saying that there aren't bad teachers out there. But far and away most teachers are really really good people, who like school and working with kids.

 

[cavalot]

We have a teacher in this thread who jokes about it, and said “usually these types are known by kids”. Another x teacher brought up an example that he reported it, and it was ignored by administration.
That’s the issue (for me anyway). Sitting back and saying “not my problem” does what exactly?
Teachers unions across the country were all for shutting down schools when they claimed a virus was going to kill a kid….. but when pedos are excused or joked about, the tune seemingly changes. In my line of work I’d be proud to snuff out these creeps, and I wouldn’t blame their parents for it while doing it

You got all of that from this thread? Most of what I have read is people defending teachers in general, and not some random pedo, or crazy liberal who wants their students to pee in a litter box.

You act like nothing is being done about these situations, in particular pedophilia. We are saying that you are wrong, and that 99% of the various situations are dealt with swiftly and sternly. As they should be.

 

[SuperBigFan]

We have a teacher in this thread who jokes about it, and said “usually these types are known by kids”. Another x teacher brought up an example that he reported it, and it was ignored by administration.
That’s the issue (for me anyway). Sitting back and saying “not my problem” does what exactly?
Teachers unions across the country were all for shutting down schools when they claimed a virus was going to kill a kid….. but when pedos are excused or joked about, the tune seemingly changes. In my line of work I’d be proud to snuff out these creeps, and I wouldn’t blame their parents for it while doing it

How do you know any of that is true? Are...are you really taking the "word" of a random poster?

And, how are those jokes?

 

[SuperBigFan]

Doesn't fit the Faux rage agenda. It's amazing how suddenly teachers and public schools are bad for America, and that the only saving grace is to send ones kids to a private school paid for by US tax payers.

We have had a public school problem for as long as we have had public schools. Lots of dynamics feed into the reasons why. Most of it has to do with demographics and not bad teachers. Not saying that there aren't bad teachers out there. But far and away most teachers are really really good people, who like school and working with kids.

I think it is a form of virtual signaling? I am not sure.

 

[mwulf]

My opinion is that people hear what the union leaders are saying, especially the national teachers union, and they believe that the rank and file also have similar opinions.

Those numbers pretty much go along with my opinion, based on those numbers, 24% lean heavy one way or the other. The 69% are independent, moderate to their side, or lean one way or the other.

Yep I got out of the Union here in LA because of their Covid and social justice stance that had zero to do with in classroom activities. 100 bucks a month that I dont have to spend. Now all schools may be shut down for 3 days next week due to the Cafeteria worker strike. Which means 3 more days in June which i not ideal.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Yep I got out of the Union here in LA because of their Covid and social justice stance that had zero to do with in classroom activities. 100 bucks a month that I dont have to spend. Now all schools may be shut down for 3 days next week due to the Cafeteria worker strike. Which means 3 more days in June which i not ideal.

Ehhh, that sounds annoying.

 

[cavalot]

Yep I got out of the Union here in LA because of their Covid and social justice stance that had zero to do with in classroom activities. 100 bucks a month that I dont have to spend. Now all schools may be shut down for 3 days next week due to the Cafeteria worker strike. Which means 3 more days in June which i not ideal.

Yep. That's where Cali is giving the rest of us a bad name. Cali makes bad decisions...... and suddenly Florida is full of bad teachers who are teaching CRT (WHITE MAN BAD), NY is grooming Trannies, Nebraska teachers are promoting peeing in litter boxes, and every teacher is an indoctrinating piece of liberal scum.

THANKS CALIFORNIA!

 

[EmormousDouchebag]

Tee hee hee. Teachers molesting kids. Theyre okay though. Its just a few of them. Also, Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong and the few bad apple officers out there? Its just a few crappy ones the majority are really great people.
Games are fun. Tee hee hee.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I think it is a form of virtual signaling? I am not sure.

Yeah, it’s “faux outrage” when parents are concerned about these issues. We shouldn’t care, right?
Protip: you’re not gonna get your wish of hoping parents don’t care about groomers, pedos, and lunatic idiot teachers pushing their politics (from either side)