So if a player tests positive during the season

Discussion in 'Husker Board' started by slwags, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. slwags

    slwags Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2004
    Messages:
    703
    Likes Received:
    476
    I am assuming he will have to sit for two weeks? This could decide how a teams season goes. If Adrian tests positive or mills or Robinson we would be hurting for those two weeks. The national championship if there is one could be decided by who has covid at the time.
     
    WestCoastCornhusker2 likes this.
  2. scarletred

    scarletred Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2001
    Messages:
    33,799
    Likes Received:
    10,335
    Not trying to be a smart azz, but Clemson and Bama and tOSU are already getting a huge number of cases this summer and will be immune later this fall and they’re the favorites too winning the National title..
     
  3. NorthWillRiseAgain

    NorthWillRiseAgain Recruiting Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2004
    Messages:
    6,144
    Likes Received:
    2,662
    I always wonder if the season would go on, with opportunities for post season, if they will plant it on opposing teams before game time to get get an advantage?

    Im sure not, but just something of a possibility.
     
  4. Crazyhole

    Crazyhole Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2004
    Messages:
    1,209
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    2 weeks is arbitrary. They'd have to wait until the player has a positive antibody test, which as we've found out is not totally reliable.

    This is just going to go on forever. Ugh.
     
    huskerfan1414 likes this.
  5. Antwill

    Antwill Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Messages:
    3,110
    Likes Received:
    1,151
    Then everyone will run screaming from the locker room like a little girl.
     
  6. jflores

    jflores Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    8,234
    Likes Received:
    3,629
    I think the concept of a competitive season is long since gone. We'll see some snaps and maybe even a large number of games. But the rest will probably be a circus.
     
    Dean Pope likes this.
  7. RedCap

    RedCap Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2001
    Messages:
    71,178
    Likes Received:
    13,895
    Not a whole lot different IMO than suffering an injury that causes them to sit. Injuries often have a huge influence on seasons.
     
    OzzyLvr, Hardslider21 and scarletred like this.
  8. RedCap

    RedCap Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2001
    Messages:
    71,178
    Likes Received:
    13,895
    It' going to go on until the November election or an effective vaccine, whichever comes first.
     
  9. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    There are players every year who get injured and only play half the season. Well, we are all collectively going to know what that feels like this year. We want 12 games with fans in the stands, bowls & playoffs, but if a fan base can see their team play more than six games this year they should consider themselves lucky.
     
    Hardslider21 likes this.
  10. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    You realize that this is a pandemic, right? The other 96% of the world population, almost all of which is taking it more seriously than we are, isn't just playing along with this in order to influence an election in a far away place that most of them have never been to.
     
  11. 9and4

    9and4 Junior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,933
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Location:
    Iowa City
    This.

    I'm thinking that if we have games, it will look a lot like 1918 and 1942-45, when universities played games, but they did it with skeleton squads and they stayed close to home.

    In 1918, Nebraska opened on Oct. 5, but didn't play again until Nov. 9 and played only six games total.

    In the 1920s and 1930s, Nebraska made regular trips to the East to take on Pitt and other schools. They made no such trips from 1943-45, and then resumed travel by train in 1946, going to LA to play UCLA after the war ended.

    The only difference during WWII was the prevalence of powerful military station teams such as Iowa Pre-Flight in Iowa City. Nebraska during the war played with a roster full of young men who hadn't yet enlisted to serve in the military or who weren't able to serve.

    Major League Baseball seasons during WWII were much the same — many of the best players, including Ted Williams and Bob Feller, weren't around.

    The result in both sports was that games were played, attendance was down, Americans listened to games on the radio as an escape from a frightful reality, and the champions, while deserving, don't hold a place among the pantheon of greatest teams ever, unless you count Army, of course.
     
  12. Harry Caray

    Harry Caray Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    12,752
    Likes Received:
    8,431
    How is the rest of the world taking it more seriously than the USA? Most European countries reopened schools, bars, and restaurants a long time ago and only require masks on public transportation, if at all. Sweden and Finland never locked down and never required masks, and have almost no deaths anymore. US Covid cases were going down until the protests and riots started. Deaths have still gone down significantly over the last 2 months.
     
    12 Harry Caray, Jul 10, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2020
  13. BeautifulDayintheNeighborhood

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    2,216
    Likes Received:
    1,360
    Location:
    Your head
    Luke is a better q than adrien. We’d. Be. Fine.
     
    BleedRed78 likes this.
  14. slwags

    slwags Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2004
    Messages:
    703
    Likes Received:
    476
    Hate to lose a game because Adrian had to sit out for a cough.
     
    jeans15 likes this.
  15. BigRedBugeaters

    BigRedBugeaters Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Messages:
    1,262
    Likes Received:
    250
    Heard it’s a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down
     
  16. RedMyMind

    RedMyMind Senior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    Messages:
    2,921
    Likes Received:
    2,634
    the US is the prize of the socialist revolution
     
    OzzyLvr likes this.
  17. RedMyMind

    RedMyMind Senior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    Messages:
    2,921
    Likes Received:
    2,634
    they killed off all the old people
     
  18. jeans15

    jeans15 Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    12,732
    Likes Received:
    3,470
    No proof they will be immune.
     
  19. jeans15

    jeans15 Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    12,732
    Likes Received:
    3,470
    Would it end up just a cough if hes out there running around? We dont know that.
     
  20. RedCap

    RedCap Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2001
    Messages:
    71,178
    Likes Received:
    13,895
    Is that why European countries can open their schools without issue and we can't?

    Of course, we all know there's been a pandemic but people have to be really blind if they don't see the pandemic also has been exploited for political reasons. Yes it can be a real pandemic and exploited for political reasons at the same time. The two are NOT mutually exclusive - ie. the phrase "never let a real crisis go to waste".
     
  21. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    Nice try. You said "it is gonna go on until the November election or a vaccine." The pandemic will go on far past November. If we would do a better job of following guidelines rather than bitching about it and disputing it, we would be in a better position to compare ourselves to Europe.
     
  22. schuele

    schuele Athletic Director
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Messages:
    13,528
    Likes Received:
    8,694
    If Finland never shut anything down, someone should tell these silly bar and restaurant owners who closed for two months, and are still only open at half capacity:
    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1190301.shtml

    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/parliament_approves_restaurant_closures/11280999

    #wejustmakeshitup
     
  23. RedCap

    RedCap Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2001
    Messages:
    71,178
    Likes Received:
    13,895
    You're welcome to your view that there's no politics involved. But I have a different view so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

    I stand by my view that there is plenty of politics in the equation. I predict after November that there will be no significant arguments against starting schools for the second semester (especially if Biden wins).

    I'd like someone to show me the stats for school age children regarding flu vs. coronavirus deaths for the kids. Note, I'm not arguing about adults, I'm talking specifically about school age children not being very affected by coronavirus.
     
  24. JaySker402

    JaySker402 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2017
    Messages:
    941
    Likes Received:
    808
    Location:
    Omaha
    That’s prison time if caught
     
  25. jflores

    jflores Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    8,234
    Likes Received:
    3,629
    Its actually quite a bit different. In any given year, most teams don't have a dramatic amount of impact play lost to injury time. Yeah, we can point to this season or another in our history where we lost an abnormal amount of key guys for a whole season but its rare.

    With contact tracing and quarantine, you are potentially going to lose alot more players (impact or otherwise) who would have never otherwise sat due to a sprain or some sort of soft tissue, or even an ACL.

    If you have 3-6-10-15 dudes having to sit, what do you think that's going to do for wear and tear on the players when everyone who is able has to pull more snaps because there's no one behind them? Risk of football injury goes up. What happens when your OL room gets hit and you might lose your top few guys at T and now you have some untested cat protecting your franchise qb for two whole games? Risk of football injury goes up.

    This platooning of players is going to make the season largely non-competitive. Sure, there will be a good amount of teams gunning for the top, but fan satisfaction at comparing a gimped Nebraska vs a gimped Iowa is going to be little more than the normal off season pissing match we already enjoy.

    Teams like Bama and Clemson were already overwhelming favs to reach the post season and this doesn't really do anything to change that in what has become the ultimate attrition game. And it might even hit them, Bama can ill afford to lose some of their top guys for two weeks consecutive against their rivals for playoff spots.
     
    9and4 likes this.
  26. Antwill

    Antwill Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Messages:
    3,110
    Likes Received:
    1,151
    There be a WHOLE lotta zeroes after the decimal point before the first positive number in the fatality rate among children from Covid.
     
    huskerfan66 likes this.
  27. ZaneHickey

    ZaneHickey Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,185
    Likes Received:
    1,138
    C'mon, now. Somebody could get mild flu symptoms for a day two. Scary stuff! Worse yet, they could have it...and not even know it!!Eek I don't see how we can have a season with those scenarios looming.
     
    Antwill likes this.
  28. SLOHusker

    SLOHusker Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    1,185
    Likes Received:
    352
    Tests positive for what? If a player gets the sniffles who cares.
     
  29. WestCoastCornhusker2

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2016
    Messages:
    1,780
    Likes Received:
    1,225
    Wow, we could win the National championship this year! Every one in Nebraska wear a mask and physical distance, we have an edge if our guys stay healthy! The south is in bad shape. If I was a 5 star, I'd go to Nebraska where I can be safe and play and get the experience.
     
    arf_man likes this.
  30. skull N crossbones

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    274
    Didn't cases basically go up after states started allowing more things to open up? I honestly don't pay much attention but that what it seemed like to me.
     
    9and4 likes this.
  31. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    I forgot to mention that I agree with your opinion on this being politicized. And that is unfortunate because it's obviously hurt our country's efforts to fight the coronavirus. You're right that we will disagree on the rest though.

    I think the reason there are sports (maybe even with fans) and kids attending schools in places like Germany, for instance, is due to the fact that they have had around 300 daily total positive tests in their entire nation. The U.S. had 63,000 positive tests today. That's 200 times as many positive cases. Call me crazy but I think that's a bigger factor than it being an election year.

    Children are less likely to become seriously ill from COVID 19, but they can carry it without anyone realizing they have it and pass it on to teachers, parents, grandparents. That's why social distancing and wearing masks are a must if we wish have to schools open and keep them open. Anything else is the kind of wishful thinking that got us in the mess we are in this summer.
     
    31 Dean Pope, Jul 10, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2020
    LonghornInOmaha and 9and4 like this.
  32. Antwill

    Antwill Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Messages:
    3,110
    Likes Received:
    1,151
    Wrong. VERY low transmission from kids to adults or anyone else. Their viral loads are too low.
     
  33. skull N crossbones

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    274
    It was an unorganized shit show from day 1 and it appears it still is. This is the kind of coordination you get during a crisis from a bi-polar president who would rather fight then unite. If he was smarter he would have used this situation to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead it just exposed him for the divisive, uneducated, liar that he is.
     
    arf_man, jmliehr and Oldie but goodie like this.
  34. RedCap

    RedCap Nebraska Legend
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2001
    Messages:
    71,178
    Likes Received:
    13,895
    Well the "experts" keep changing their opinions so who knows what they will say tomorrow. However last I read, the experts were now saying that children were NOT spreading or carrying the virus to older people.

    Agree that the coronavirus cases in the U.S. have spiked to incredibly high numbers BUT I reiterate, just how many of those are children? Is anyone brave enough to admit that it isn't many children in those numbers?

    Those are among the reasons I don't think reopening schools is a very difficult decision. Problem right now is that people don't want to separate out and report just the stats for children from the overall population stats. It doesn't serve their political purpose to keep schools closed down.

    Couple that with all the damage is being done to children's education and social development by being kept from school. To say nothing about the children from under privileged households not getting served school meals any more. Or forcing the parents to stay home for the children and being unable to work wrecking their family financial situation. Being forced to stay home comes with its own liabilities which the keep the schools closed advocates totally ignore.
     
    34 RedCap, Jul 11, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2020
    Antwill likes this.
  35. Nebraska_Reality

    Nebraska_Reality Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    469
    According to a epidemiologist and viral disease specialist that Paul Finebaum interviewed on his show a couple of weeks ago, there is zero proof that people are immune from getting COVID a second time.
     
  36. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    Remember, this is a NOVEL coronavirus and a lot is still unknown. And yes as the data starts to come in, the picture has become clearer and with much ballyhoo experts changed their minds on a couple things like initially not emphasizing the importance of wearing masks and initially theorizing that asymptomatic spreading did not take place. Kids do transmit the disease. I read an article from a woman who's ex tested positive after she picked up her kids from his house. Shortly after, she and her second husband got sick. Her kids also tested positive. Bottom line to me, is that schools should reopen. But there are lots and lots of questions. Bare minimum, the hybrid plan for half kids in a building at a time is the most sustainable. Offer online learning for days kids are home. Try to have HS activities too. This is similar to what OPS is planning. Other schools want to try 100% attendance, but with cases rising locally those plans could go out the window.

    If anyone is interested in reading more about the topic from a non-political perspective, here is an article from an an infectious disease doctor/epidemiologist.
     
  37. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    Credible source?
     
    jeans15 likes this.
  38. Antwill

    Antwill Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Messages:
    3,110
    Likes Received:
    1,151
  39. Harry Caray

    Harry Caray Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    12,752
    Likes Received:
    8,431
    Of course you will still have cases when you open things up. That was never the point. When did "15 days to slow the spread" become "we must shut down until there are no new cases"? The death rates have plummeted, because we have figured out that this virus mostly kills really old people in nursing homes and the morbidly obese. 99.9% of other people will recover and most will not even have severe symptoms.

    The recent major spikes in cases didn't begin until early June, which was right after all of the Floyd protests. States like Colorado and Georgia opened up in April and had no spikes in cases until the Floyd protests in June. European countries opened bars and schools months ago and have not had spikes in new cases. Most of these countries have not required masks either, except for on public transportation.

    The main problem in the U.S. is that we have an unhealthy population - very high rates of obesity, diabetes, and weak immune systems because of terrible eating habits and lack of exercise. U.S. obesity rate is 40%, while Japan's is 3%, and most of Europe is around 20%.
     
    39 Harry Caray, Jul 11, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2020
    Antwill likes this.
  40. Dean Pope

    Dean Pope Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2001
    Messages:
    8,753
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    I think those are the same studies I sited in the article I had read. Not sure what the social distancing measures were in each location and the level of the outbreak at that time. Hopefully, we would at least match the safety measures taken in those places rather than lessen them out of convenience.
     

Share This Page